Is this physique attainable natty?

[Zanetics]

Would you say this physique is attainable natty with decent genetics?

[tvampirediaries]

yes if everything is spot on 100%
Also I think yoou could achieve that in 5 years

[on-sh0w]

but who was chest?

[SMASH23]

yes

[4ndrew]

def yes but will take a while

[Miscular]

yes, especially at 5'11"

mirin arms in that last pic.....not sure if I will ever be able to achieve those proportions natty since i'm so tall

[vinhuman]

No idea, I haven't trained for 10 years with elite genetics and perfect training/commitment. If I had to guess, maybe not. Arms in second pic.. eh... I don't know brah.

[TooShredded]

His arms are ****ing enormous

[BKSMASSIVE]

Half-natty. srs.

[Zanetics]

he looks like an arm dominant kind of dude and looks natty (because hes not ridiculously lean and his upper chest isnt that well developed).. but what do i know. I hope it is because this body would be my ultimate goal.

[Psychit]

how old do you think he is? late 20's?

[CH3WYYY]

yes, especially at 5'11"

mirin arms in that last pic.....not sure if I will ever be able to achieve those proportions natty since i'm so tall

7ft 1... Does not cry about his frame. (Conan Stevens)



Physique in OP is definitely achievable natty.

[iiradman]

I don't think so.

Even if it WAS possible, he still probably tech'd to get to that stage in those pictures.

His arms are bigger than zyzzprah's and Jeff "ackwardbrah" Seid's... and they both juiced pretty heavily. My 2c


Happy lifting.

[4backcracks]

i fukcing hate these stupid ass threads.


if you want to achieve his stats, yeah it's possible natty, that doesn't fukcing mean you will ever look like that physique.


You could have 15 lbs of muscle on this guy and be leaner, and he would probably still look better than 90% of you because the body he was born with is just more attractive than yours. His chest insertions, trap insertions, shoulder/waist ratio, delt shape, and ab structure are all very good.

[Tracker54]

Yes. I think it's more an illusion though, since he seems to have a tiny waist and prominent shoulders/traps.

[Cjjlpsp]

7ft 1... Does not cry about his frame. (Conan Stevens)



Physique in OP is definitely achievable natty.

His forearms look small as ****, but they're probably 16s+

[JUSA]

I don't think so.

Even if it WAS possible, he still probably tech'd to get to that stage in those pictures.

His arms are bigger than zyzzprah's and Jeff "ackwardbrah" Seid's... and they both juiced pretty heavily. My 2c

Happy lifting.

Semi-agree. While getting there might be possible with most people, if you ever saw anyone built like that, odds are they're not natty. I mean, fukk, I'd guess close to 1/2 of the people in most gyms aren't natty to begin with and these are people who look like trash compared to the guy in the OP.

[Kleurplaat]

ITT people dont realise that PEDs do more for you than put on mass.

[kyble]

thought that was you op. i'd like to think so, looks along the lines of the natty limit

[Celsus]

Sure it is. I'll be there in maximum 3 years.

[KeepOnShruggin]

first pic has really good lighting and angle
second pic has a strong pump and down lighting
third pic looks like a model shoot.. probably instagram filtered (maybe srs)

[rootcon]

I don't see why not. Throughout history, most men looked like that before protein shakes, science, and training. Just look at some of the first bodybuilders, they were even more ripped and probably improperly trained and didn't count calories.

[Trinidad1969]

lol @ "yes"

I don't see why not. Throughout history, most men looked like that before protein shakes, science, and training. Just look at some of the first bodybuilders, they were even more ripped and probably improperly trained and didn't count calories.

The point is thatnthey didn't, there was a time when Sean Connery was Mr Universe and considered one of the most ripped men on earth



(Middle)

Then cell-tech became widely available.



I have nothing against cell-tech and yes other supplements have changed the game slightly, but lettuce be real tea. Traps are usually the giveaway as they are selectively targeted by testosterone over muscles of the lower body, and so is the bf%. This guy isn't natty.

[gianlifts]

goal physique

[biscuitsbrah]

No. You can get the size but you def won't be that lean and look like that.
Doesn't really matter though... We're all gonna make it

[MG5]

i fukcing hate these stupid ass threads.


if you want to achieve his stats, yeah it's possible natty, that doesn't fukcing mean you will ever look like that physique.


You could have 15 lbs of muscle on this guy and be leaner, and he would probably still look better than 90% of you because the body he was born with is just more attractive than yours. His chest insertions, trap insertions, shoulder/waist ratio, delt shape, and ab structure are all very good.

This. Not always about how much muscle you have, but how you carry it, your frame/build, proportions. I'm so wide so it makes me look so much bigger than I actually am.

And his name is Tomas Klic, he's from the Czech Republic.

[Zanetics]

I have nothing against cell-tech and yes other supplements have changed the game slightly, but lettuce be real tea. Traps are usually the giveaway as they are selectively targeted by testosterone over muscles of the lower body, and so is the bf%. This guy isn't natty.

But the delts, and upper chest are also among the selectively targeted areas, his arn't ridiculous.

[Cjjlpsp]

The point is thatnthey didn't, there was a time when Sean Connery was Mr Universe and considered one of the most ripped men on earth


I have nothing against cell-tech and yes other supplements have changed the game slightly, but lettuce be real tea. Traps are usually the giveaway as they are selectively targeted by testosterone over muscles of the lower body, and so is the bf%. This guy isn't natty.

Not just traps, but check out the delts of every guy in that picture. They lack that depth or "3d look" that a lot of people claim is an indicator of gear usage

Even the biggest guy on the far left doesn't have very much roundness to his delts

[iiradman]

Semi-agree. While getting there might be possible with most people, if you ever saw anyone built like that, odds are they're not natty. I mean, fukk, I'd guess close to 1/2 of the people in most gyms aren't natty to begin with and these are people who look like trash compared to the guy in the OP.

Correct, which has led me to further believe his mascularity/leanness is impractical. Thousands of juicers look like shiit, yet this one dude who trumps them is natural.

Regardless, the whole "doing it right" (not taking drugs) has gone out the window for me.

It shouldn't even be "Can i achieve this naturally?" These threads should probably be renamed to "WILL i achieve this naturally?"

Makes more sense, because somewhere down the line a person will probably resort to juice.

[anonymous]