****Official Minnesota Vikings Thread****

**MCrow** · 03-21-2013, 11:27 AM

We've tried to do this before and it died out but this time I will keep the damn thing going by my self if need be.

To start it off, an interesting article on what Jennings could do for Ponder and what Harvin wasn't doing:
http://www.1500espn.com/sportswire/P..._Vikings032013

**MCrow** · 03-21-2013, 11:50 AM

It's weird, there are quite a few Vikes fans around here but trying to keep a thread going seems to be impossible.

**JmanTheJuiceman** · 03-21-2013, 12:02 PM

I'm here for the gang bang ?

**MCrow** · 03-21-2013, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by JmanTheJuiceman

I'm here for the gang bang ?

Great.....give all the Packers and Bears ammo for their ******* comments. lol.

**reinsdorfsucks** · 03-21-2013, 12:16 PM

Is this thread about Brian Urlacher?

**MCrow** · 03-21-2013, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by reinsdorfsucks

Is this thread about Brian Urlacher?

I hope not.

**-=Zeus=-!** · 03-21-2013, 12:22 PM

In on last page.

**kevsom24** · 03-21-2013, 12:29 PM

Innn!

Will help to not let it die

SKOL!

**MCrow** · 03-21-2013, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by -=Zeus=-!

In on last page.

GTFO before I measly neg you.

**kevsom24** · 03-21-2013, 12:35 PM

Excited to see what we can do with Jennings, especially with Wright in the slot, and a Healthy Simpson.

I know a lot of people are saying Jennings=Harvin and we are in the same situation as we were last year, but I think Wright=Harvin to an extent. obviously nowhere near as good, but he will be a similar weapon. Jennings gives us another type of player.

**MCrow** · 03-21-2013, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by kevsom24

Excited to see what we can do with Jennings, especially with Wright in the slot, and a Healthy Simpson.

I know a lot of people are saying Jennings=Harvin and we are in the same situation as we were last year, but I think Wright=Harvin to an extent. obviously nowhere near as good, but he will be a similar weapon. Jennings gives us another type of player.

I think that Jennings being where he is supposed to be, having better hands and being more of a team guy will help Ponder. Not that Jennings is better than Harvin, but he's probably better for the Vikes than Harvin was. It's pretty bad when you run routes so bad they don't call plays downfield for you because they don't trust you to be in the right spot at the right time.

Wright is somewhat similar to Harvin in the passing game, but he's not as powerful and he's not the freak of nature that Harvin is. However, I think he can make a very good slot WR and I think if Simpson is healthy he can make a decent 2nd/3rd WR and if you toss in a good deep threat sort of player in the draft then the Vikes are looking decent at WR.

They will miss Harvin in the returns and versatilty but if they can get Tavon Austin they replace a lot of that.

**Evolutionary1** · 03-21-2013, 12:46 PM

In. hoping we get hunter or austin with the first pick. then maybe a CB or DT with the second.

**kevsom24** · 03-21-2013, 12:54 PM

Austin would be great, but I doubt he falls. Would like to see them get the BPA at WR, wether it be Allen, Austin, or Patterson or whoever. either way there will be help

Originally Posted by Evolutionary1

In. hoping we get hunter or austin with the first pick. then maybe a CB or DT with the second.

Originally Posted by MCrow

They will miss Harvin in the returns and versatilty but if they can get Tavon Austin they replace a lot of that.

Sherels just is not going to cut it as a returner.

**MCrow** · 03-21-2013, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by Evolutionary1

In. hoping we get hunter or austin with the first pick. then maybe a CB or DT with the second.

My pick for our first rounders at this point would be Allen (WR). Would take Ogletree and run off stage if he's there otherwise Sylvester Williams at DT would be good. I would like to see them moved up in the 2nd round if need be and get Minter to play ILB.

**Gooner89** · 03-21-2013, 12:58 PM

If there was a way to get Austin I would do it even if that means trading up. Otherwise wait until 2nd round, there will still be WR talent left. Grab a MLB and DT with our two firsts.

**MCrow** · 03-21-2013, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by kevsom24

Austin would be great, but I doubt he falls. Would like to see them get the BPA at WR, wether it be Allen, Austin, or Patterson or whoever. either way there will be help

Sherels just is not going to cut it as a returner.

Sherels actually did pretty decent, he's a little shifty but lacks the burst that Harvin has.

Sherels average 26.4 per kick return last year which puts him in the top ten. He was pretty average as punt returner though.

Eitherway, if they get Tavon Austin that would be an upgrade in the return game.

**MCrow** · 03-21-2013, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by Gooner89

If there was a way to get Austin I would do it even if that means trading up. Otherwise wait until 2nd round, there will still be WR talent left. Grab a MLB and DT with our two firsts.

I would be down with that (DT/MLB) but if you can get one of the top 4 WRs and DTs I'd probably go that way. After Ogletree you are reaching a little for MLBs.

**MNBrah** · 03-21-2013, 01:12 PM

in on this

glad to see the vikes aren't going after urlacher after he denied the 1 year contract from the bears...they say we will only go after him if his contract goes "way down"

Urlacher also said their purposal to him was an ultimatum not a negotiation

**CaptainBrah23** · 03-21-2013, 01:17 PM

Innn on this, will deff help to keep this thread active. I for one am completely content with what we've done this offseason. Percy was a headache and couldn't stay healthy. Plus when it comes down to it you need a QB, and at the end of last season Ponder was looking like he was starting to make some progress.

**kevsom24** · 03-21-2013, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by CaptainBrah23

Innn on this. I for one am completely content with what we've done this offseason. Percy was a headache and couldn't stay healthy. Plus when it comes down to it you need a QB, and at the end of last season Ponder was looking like he was starting to make some progress.

Loved how Ponder opened up the field after Percy went down. Thats a good sign for us

**drock2190** · 03-21-2013, 01:31 PM

In.

**MNBrah** · 03-21-2013, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by kevsom24

Loved how Ponder opened up the field after Percy went down. Thats a good sign for us

another good sign is the improvement he made from 2 seasons ago into last season. Can't wait to see how he has improved this offseason, especially with Cassel being there for insight.

**myohmeg** · 03-21-2013, 01:39 PM

IN!

Originally Posted by kevsom24

Austin would be great, but I doubt he falls. Would like to see them get the BPA at WR, wether it be Allen, Austin, or Patterson or whoever. either way there will be help

Sherels just is not going to cut it as a returner.

I disagree, I think Sherels is one of the better punt returners in the game, You never see him botch catching a punt.

Originally Posted by MCrow

My pick for our first rounders at this point would be Allen (WR). Would take Ogletree and run off stage if he's there otherwise Sylvester Williams at DT would be good. I would like to see them moved up in the 2nd round if need be and get Minter to play ILB.

I was listening to KFAN earlier and a caller called in and suggested trading one of our first round picks maybe a later rounder for fitzgerald hnnnnngggg no way that would happen but can you imagine no more stacking the box. good god.

**kevsom24** · 03-21-2013, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by MNBrah

another good sign is the improvement he made from 2 seasons ago into last season. Can't wait to see how he has improved this offseason, especially with Cassel being there for insight.

I'm hoping Cassel makes Ponder work harder. Theres a big difference in starting over Cassel than there is starting over Webb and ***.

Originally Posted by myohmeg

I disagree, I think Sherels is one of the better punt returners in the game, You never see him botch catching a punt.

He does a good job on punts, its always a benefit to have confidence the guys not gonna muff the ball. I just think hes a little too slow to be returning kickoffs.

**gouscfootball** · 03-21-2013, 01:44 PM

I used to like the Vikings, but like the Chargers the only thing this team is good for is drafting elite talent, developing it for a couple of years and then letting that talent go during the peak of their careers. I honestly feel so bad for AP he is the only reason I would ever watch a Vikings game anymore. Ponder is complete garbage, they have no WR's anymore and the defense is not nearly as stern as it used to be. AP would average 2000 yards a season on any other team except the Vikings and maybe 5 other teams. Poor guy.. He is too nice to just leave though.

**MCrow** · 03-21-2013, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by MNBrah

in on this

glad to see the vikes aren't going after urlacher after he denied the 1 year contract from the bears...they say we will only go after him if his contract goes "way down"

Urlacher also said their purposal to him was an ultimatum not a negotiation

Yeah, best case is he's a part time player at MLB which wouldn't be bade for the Vikes if they end up starting a Rookie at that spot. However, if he won't sign with the Bears for what he's worth then he's not signing with the Vikes either. I think he's probably not worth much more than league minimum.

**MCrow** · 03-21-2013, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by kevsom24

I'm hoping Cassel makes Ponder work harder. Theres a big difference in starting over Cassel than there is starting over Webb and ***.

He does a good job on punts, its always a benefit to have confidence the guys not gonna muff the ball. I just think hes a little too slow to be returning kickoffs.

All I know is that I'm a lot more happy with the idea of Cassel starting if Ponder goes down than I was with Webb last year. Make no mistake, there is pretty much zero chance that Cassel starts opening week.

**myohmeg** · 03-21-2013, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by gouscfootball

I used to like the Vikings, but like the Chargers the only thing this team is good for is drafting elite talent, developing it for a couple of years and then letting that talent go during the peak of their careers. I honestly feel so bad for AP he is the only reason I would ever watch a Vikings game anymore. Ponder is complete garbage, they have no WR's anymore and the defense is not nearly as stern as it used to be. AP would average 2000 yards a season on any other team except the Vikings and maybe 5 other teams. Poor guy.. He is too nice to just leave though.

lol gtfo he would average 2,000 yards on most other teams? we had a pro bowl full back and one of the most solid offensive lines in the league(best in the NFC North).

**MCrow** · 03-21-2013, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by myohmeg

lol gtfo he would average 2,000 yards on most other teams? we had a pro bowl full back and one of the most solid offensive lines in the league(best in the NFC North).

Loadholdt was borderline PB worthy, Kalil was one of the most dominant tackles in the league as a rookie and Sullivan quietly has become one of the better centers in the league. Charlie Johnson is average and Fusco is average but pretty good considering we drafted him in the 6th round in 2011 and converted him from center to G.

Chances are the Vikes OL will only get better with Fusco and Kalil being young. Loadholt probably has peaked and Charlie Johnson never peaked but probably never will....but at least he's better OG than OT.

**kevsom24** · 03-21-2013, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by MCrow

Loadholdt was borderline PB worthy, Kalil was one of the most dominant tackles in the league as a rookie and Sullivan quietly has become one of the better centers in the league. Charlie Johnson is average and Fusco is average but pretty good considering we drafted him in the 6th round in 2011 and converted him from center to G.

Chances are the Vikes OL will only get better with Fusco and Kalil being young. Loadholt probably has peaked and Charlie Johnson never peaked but probably never will....but at least he's better OG than OT.

Kalil is the biggest reason we went 10-6 in my opinion. I was worried he was going to turn into another McKinnie, I didn't know a whole lot about him prior to the season. Without him the line goes from really good to bad. He makes the whole line better. Hoping for another good draft from Spiel

Originally Posted by -=Zeus=-!

In on last page.

Come at us Cheese-brah. In on 2nd page

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