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    Originally Posted by Tyler2106 View Post
    Almost like the Vikings took away their play makers on the goal line.

    Good comeback today. Ugly, but that's a great win.

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    Originally Posted by Tyler2106 View Post
    Almost like the Vikings took away their play makers on the goal line.

    Good comeback today. Ugly, but that's a great win.
    Almost like they had the option of putting Sutton out wide instead of Tim Patrick.

    Almost.
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    Originally Posted by AMeyer9 View Post
    Almost like they had the option of putting Sutton out wide instead of Tim Patrick.

    Almost.
    Yeah, you should be their OC since you know more than they do.
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    Originally Posted by Tyler2106 View Post
    Yeah, you should be their OC since you know more than they do.
    Well **** I think you should be their OC. Since you know more than everyone
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    Originally Posted by AMeyer9 View Post
    Well **** I think you should be their OC. Since you know more than everyone
    LMFAO that makes no sense, but good try, Homer.
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    Originally Posted by AMeyer9 View Post
    Almost like they had the option of putting Sutton out wide instead of Tim Patrick.

    Almost.
    Cope harder lmaoooooo
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    Originally Posted by GiveHerBills View Post
    Cope harder lmaoooooo
    Copes in 1st place
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    Originally Posted by AMeyer9 View Post
    Copes in 1st place
    Vikings only a game behind tho.
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    Originally Posted by AMeyer9 View Post
    Copes in 1st place
    Then quit being a hater lol
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    Originally Posted by AMeyer9 View Post
    Copes in 1st place
    im all for good sports talks i kno youre a gb fan but man you come in and just love being a pest huh.

    but sht my blood was boiling i couldnt believe how undisciplined they were playing, but kirk buckled down and played a damn good game, doubters will doubt but ANY other viking team wouldve laid down at the half and taken the beating they were getting
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    Originally Posted by Vikes723 View Post
    im all for good sports talks i kno youre a gb fan but man you come in and just love being a pest huh.

    but sht my blood was boiling i couldnt believe how undisciplined they were playing, but kirk buckled down and played a damn good game, doubters will doubt but ANY other viking team wouldve laid down at the half and taken the beating they were getting
    This comeback was great for Kirk and the offense. 29/35, 3 TDs. It's clear the offense HAS to get Cook going early to open up the rest of the offense. Once they did that they scored on every 2nd half drive I believe.

    Defense was awful 1st half, but played much better late. A little too bend, don't break for me when it was late in the 4th, but they made the stop when they needed.

    Unfortunately, Seattle is next up on the schedule. Luckily, it's after the bye. Still going to be a huge challenge. Packers have the 49ers next week which will be huge for the NFC North if they lose.
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    Originally Posted by Tyler2106 View Post
    This comeback was great for Kirk and the offense. 29/35, 3 TDs. It's clear the offense HAS to get Cook going early to open up the rest of the offense. Once they did that they scored on every 2nd half drive I believe.

    Defense was awful 1st half, but played much better late. A little too bend, don't break for me when it was late in the 4th, but they made the stop when they needed.

    Unfortunately, Seattle is next up on the schedule. Luckily, it's after the bye. Still going to be a huge challenge. Packers have the 49ers next week which will be huge for the NFC North if they lose.
    any other vikings team id say seattle is a lose but wouldnt be shocked if the over under is 3 points in seattles favor since theyre at home
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    Kirk obviously made some nice throws, but I give credit to the OC Stefanski for finding a way to produce on offense when the running game was completely shutdown. Taking some longer shots down field kind of put the Denver D on their heels in the 2nd half, which led to some big coverage gaffes (see the go ahead TD by Rudy).

    Gave up too many big plays on defense, but good lord we were the walking wounded out there. TWO backup safeties (Kearse and Sendejo) were the starters the whole 2nd half after Harrison Smith tweaked his hamstring or something. Keep in mind Sendejo was just signed off the damn street too. Also, I saw quite a few missed one-on-one tackles Sunday, which is very uncharacteristic of our defense.

    The bye coming at a good time to get some these guys back healthy.
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    that's the best i've ever seen kirk play for sure gotta give him credit, he's been playing insane since that bears game
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    Originally Posted by ajdahlheimer View Post
    Kirk obviously made some nice throws, but I give credit to the OC Stefanski for finding a way to produce on offense when the running game was completely shutdown. Taking some longer shots down field kind of put the Denver D on their heels in the 2nd half, which led to some big coverage gaffes (see the go ahead TD by Rudy).

    Gave up too many big plays on defense, but good lord we were the walking wounded out there. TWO backup safeties (Kearse and Sendejo) were the starters the whole 2nd half after Harrison Smith tweaked his hamstring or something. Keep in mind Sendejo was just signed off the damn street too. Also, I saw quite a few missed one-on-one tackles Sunday, which is very uncharacteristic of our defense.

    The bye coming at a good time to get some these guys back healthy.
    Besides the defense making so many mistakes in the first half, my frustration actually has been Stefanski and the play calling trying to get too fancy and cute which leads them to be too conservative which leads to wasted drives. The predictable 3rd and 1 with the CJ Ham run, getting stuffed up the middle when running prior to that was also getting stuffed, and calling plays with the primary routes being very short. That killed them in the KC game and was the reason the offense was terrible on the first half. If they are going to be competitive with the 49ers, Seahawks, and other top teams, they need to make every drive count and not hold themselves back.

    Don't mis-interpret the above with thinking I'm saying they need to run and throw deep non-stop. No, just basically more open like they were in the second half of the DEN game and in the Giants, Eagles, and Lions games. Those were good offensive showings and the play calling gets too "cute" and conservative against good defenses like the Bears.
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    Originally Posted by Misctake7 View Post
    Besides the defense making so many mistakes in the first half, my frustration actually has been Stefanski and the play calling trying to get too fancy and cute which leads them to be too conservative which leads to wasted drives. The predictable 3rd and 1 with the CJ Ham run, getting stuffed up the middle when running prior to that was also getting stuffed, and calling plays with the primary routes being very short. That killed them in the KC game and was the reason the offense was terrible on the first half. If they are going to be competitive with the 49ers, Seahawks, and other top teams, they need to make every drive count and not hold themselves back.

    Don't mis-interpret the above with thinking I'm saying they need to run and throw deep non-stop. No, just basically more open like they were in the second half of the DEN game and in the Giants, Eagles, and Lions games. Those were good offensive showings and the play calling gets too "cute" and conservative against good defenses like the Bears.
    Well fwiw, I think it was obvious coming in that our game plan was to run the ball and throw a bunch of screens. Remember Thielen is out, so we are a bit limited as far as down field play-makers right now. When neither the ground game or screens worked---Stefanski was able to come up with something different. I liked the way the ball was spread around. Guys like Conklin, Irv Smith, Bisi Johnson, etc. all making some plays. That is how you win when your stars are out.
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    and yes it was a 3-6 denver team but that pass defense is top 5 and kirk made it look easy, insane to think about
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    Originally Posted by ajdahlheimer View Post
    Well fwiw, I think it was obvious coming in that our game plan was to run the ball and throw a bunch of screens. Remember Thielen is out, so we are a bit limited as far as down field play-makers right now. When neither the ground game or screens worked---Stefanski was able to come up with something different. I liked the way the ball was spread around. Guys like Conklin, Irv Smith, Bisi Johnson, etc. all making some plays. That is how you win when your stars are out.
    Like I said, my frustration is when they do it and it doesn't work, it takes an entire half to do it. The second half wasn't necessarily a bunch of deep shots. The first TD drive was over 10 plays but being efficient in early downs. The bomb to Diggs is what opened it up the rest of the way, but that was the only bomb. I don't think it's unreasonable to think they should be calling plays that go 10 yards or more when you're faced with 3rd and 10 or 3rd and 15.

    Love the fight in the team! But the coaching staff needs to be better at making quicker adjustments.
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    Originally Posted by OPGenesis View Post
    Vikings only a game behind tho.
    I think isn't only 1/2 game back

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    that's the best i've ever seen kirk play for sure gotta give him credit, he's been playing insane since that bears game
    Kirk has been playing very well. I'm waiting to see how he does at Sea after the bye. I've been very critical of Kirk since he came in. If he can beat Sea at Sea and look decent, I'll officially jump on the wagon at that time.

    Originally Posted by Misctake7 View Post
    Like I said, my frustration is when they do it and it doesn't work, it takes an entire half to do it. The second half wasn't necessarily a bunch of deep shots. The first TD drive was over 10 plays but being efficient in early downs. The bomb to Diggs is what opened it up the rest of the way, but that was the only bomb. I don't think it's unreasonable to think they should be calling plays that go 10 yards or more when you're faced with 3rd and 10 or 3rd and 15.

    Love the fight in the team! But the coaching staff needs to be better at making quicker adjustments.
    Agreed, at least we make adjustments at halftime these days. Years went by where the Vikings could not even do that. The coaches should get the game ball from yesterday.
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    Kirk has been playing very well. I'm waiting to see how he does at Sea after the bye. I've been very critical of Kirk since he came in. If he can beat Sea at Sea and look decent, I'll officially jump on the wagon at that time.
    So all Kirk has to do is go into Seattle and beat Wilson and the Seahawks and you'll jump on his band wagon? Anything else he needs to do that game?
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    Like I said, my frustration is when they do it and it doesn't work, it takes an entire half to do it. The second half wasn't necessarily a bunch of deep shots. The first TD drive was over 10 plays but being efficient in early downs. The bomb to Diggs is what opened it up the rest of the way, but that was the only bomb. I don't think it's unreasonable to think they should be calling plays that go 10 yards or more when you're faced with 3rd and 10 or 3rd and 15.

    Love the fight in the team! But the coaching staff needs to be better at making quicker adjustments.
    There were actually two different bombs to Diggs, but yeah I agree.

    And our adjustments need to be quicker BOTH sides of the ball. Zim's D has come out flat on the first series damn near every game this season.
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    Originally Posted by Tyler2106 View Post
    So all Kirk has to do is go into Seattle and beat Wilson and the Seahawks and you'll jump on his band wagon? Anything else he needs to do that game?
    Agree that Seattle is a tough place to play and Wilson's Seattle offense is one of the best in the business. But defensively, Seattle is not very good (~24th in both yards and points). So Cook should be able to get going--which really doesn't give Kirk much of an excuse.

    I am much more worried about our defense that game. Rhodes and Hughes CANNOT be trusted in man coverage at this point. Both Harrison Smith and Anthony Harris coming off of injuries. Waynes tends to run hot and cold. Tbh, Sendejo was the only guy who showed up in the first half yesterday (offense or defense). Pass rush was not effective vs Denver, and while their QB is athletic--he isn't in Wilson's world for mobility and accuracy when throwing on the run. So I think our chance there will be somehow beating Seattle in a shootout......
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    Originally Posted by ajdahlheimer View Post
    Agree that Seattle is a tough place to play and Wilson's Seattle offense is one of the best in the business. But defensively, Seattle is not very good (~24th in both yards and points). So Cook should be able to get going--which really doesn't give Kirk much of an excuse.

    I am much more worried about our defense that game. Rhodes and Hughes CANNOT be trusted in man coverage at this point. Both Harrison Smith and Anthony Harris coming off of injuries. Waynes tends to run hot and cold. Tbh, Sendejo was the only guy who showed up in the first half yesterday (offense or defense). Pass rush was not effective vs Denver, and while their QB is athletic--he isn't in Wilson's world for mobility and accuracy when throwing on the run. So I think our chance there will be somehow beating Seattle in a shootout......
    Agreed. Coming out of their bye is going to be the best thing for the Vikings. Having a healthy Thielen will be huge. After the Denver game, I think the coaching staff is going to work on getting creative for Cook to do his thing because the offense doesn't work if he's not getting involved.
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    Agreed. Coming out of their bye is going to be the best thing for the Vikings. Having a healthy Thielen will be huge. After the Denver game, I think the coaching staff is going to work on getting creative for Cook to do his thing because the offense doesn't work if he's not getting involved.
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    Originally Posted by Tyler2106 View Post
    So all Kirk has to do is go into Seattle and beat Wilson and the Seahawks and you'll jump on his band wagon? Anything else he needs to do that game?
    Its a combo of what he has been doing since the Bears game and what he does at Sea. Kirk needs to play well at Sea for me to fully jump on the wagon, not just a win. Say Cook runs for 200 yards and the D shuts down Sea (LOL Yes I know) you can't put that win on Kirk. Basically I'm looking for a continuation of what he has been doing but doing it against a top tier team, on the road in prime time. If he can do that I would say the Vikes can beat anyone anywhere. Until that, I'm not sold. The Vikings (& Kirk his whole career) historically fall apart against good teams, especially on the road in prime time. This game is huge for both teams, almost has that playoff feel to it.
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    Originally Posted by Berts View Post
    This game is huge for both teams, almost has that playoff feel to it.
    It certainly does. Having the head-to-head tiebreakers against both Phili and Dallas could very well come into play if we are having to settle for a WC spot though.
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    why is rhodes in the nfl, let alone starting? dude is beyond cooked, it gets worse every week
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    why is rhodes in the nfl, let alone starting? dude is beyond cooked, it gets worse every week
    He's definitely a shell of his old self. That long TD looked like he was expecting help over the top.

    Anyone here about Cook's injury? Went in the locker room with a shoulder injury and haven't seen him back.
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    Rhodes with a great play to cause that fumble
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    that game is on the usually stout run D. carson and penny gashed them consistently all night and then at a critical time on seattle's last possession
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