how much of a surplus for 15 year olds?

[bonsai14]

hey guys, im 15 (16 in june) 5'6, and 120lbs. ive been bulking for a while, but have been informed recently that i dont need to, because my body cant produce the necessary hormones like a 17+ male can to build LBM. so which is it? should i do a smaller surplus, because i cant use as much of the excess calories? ive also heard that males at my age have a better potential than anyone else... alot of mixed junk out there, i know! so a 250 or 500 surplus? thanks!

[Athleader]

hey guys, im 15 (16 in june) 5'6, and 120lbs. ive been bulking for a while, but have been informed recently that i dont need to, because my body cant produce the necessary hormones like a 17+ male can to build LBM. so which is it? should i do a smaller surplus, because i cant use as much of the excess calories? ive also heard that males at my age have a better potential than anyone else... alot of mixed junk out there, i know! so a 250 or 500 surplus? thanks!

Considering you're 15, I'm going to assume that by an American/Canadian standpoint, you're in the 9th or 10th grade. I am 16 personally and the guys started bulking last year when they were 15. These boys are getting quite ripped so I don't think you need to worry too much about this "17+" junk that you hear. Sure, your hormones will be more active at that age, but bodybuilding and hormones, while linked, are also separate. The longer you body build, the more time you have to see results. I'd say keep the 500 surplus and watch the results come as your body continues to develop.

[SonOfAristaeus]

500 surplus, i did a 3700 kcal bulk for four months, went from 100-105 to 140, now im bulking on 4000 kcal.

[AlexRyan1]

500 surplus, i did a 3700 kcal bulk for four months, went from 100-105 to 140, now im bulking on 4000 kcal.

lol how is your maintenance so high, i went from 145-170 on 3000-3200 calories lol, you active a lot?

[cdelbel14]

hey guys, im 15 (16 in june) 5'6, and 120lbs. ive been bulking for a while, but have been informed recently that i dont need to, because my body cant produce the necessary hormones like a 17+ male can to build LBM. so which is it? should i do a smaller surplus, because i cant use as much of the excess calories? ive also heard that males at my age have a better potential than anyone else... alot of mixed junk out there, i know! so a 250 or 500 surplus? thanks!

Sorry, Let me understand. Your body cant ever produce the proper hormones or just cant atm because your 15?

When I was 16 i was aporx 140lbs, started lifting weights when I turned 18, I went from 140 to 280 in 4 years, currently cutting and im at 220lbs 9-11percent bf.

[bonsai14]

Sorry, Let me understand. Your body cant ever produce the proper hormones or just cant atm because your 15?

When I was 16 i was aporx 140lbs, started lifting weights when I turned 18, I went from 140 to 280 in 4 years, currently cutting and im at 220lbs 9-11percent bf.

because im 15, so ive been told. yeah but thats when your 18, and fully developed. is their really much of a difference in a 16 to an 18 year old?

[AdCon]

Start out with a low surplus. If you don't gain the amount of weight you want to then increase the calories.

It's not that hard to figure out..

[bonsai14]

Start out with a low surplus. If you don't gain the amount of weight you want to then increase the calories.

It's not that hard to figure out..

apparently it is because you cant read my post correctly? weight gain doesnt equal muscle gain. i said that ive been told by some (jason blaha) that they dont think that my body is developed enough or has the right amount of hormones to fully utilize a 500 surplus like a 17+ year old will. now you see the dilemma!

[Athleader]

apparently it is because you cant read my post correctly? weight gain doesnt equal muscle gain. i said that ive been told by some (jason blaha) that they dont think that my body is developed enough or has the right amount of hormones to fully utilize a 500 surplus like a 17+ year old will. now you see the dilemma!

Just make sure that surplus is good, wholesome protein and you'll see those muscles growing.

[Johneffer]

hey guys, im 15 (16 in june) 5'6, and 120lbs. ive been bulking for a while, but have been informed recently that i dont need to, because my body cant produce the necessary hormones like a 17+ male can to build LBM. so which is it? should i do a smaller surplus, because i cant use as much of the excess calories? ive also heard that males at my age have a better potential than anyone else... alot of mixed junk out there, i know! so a 250 or 500 surplus? thanks!

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[kevinyca]

Eat more than maintenance and lift. Stop listening to whatever bull you've been hearing.

[bonsai14]

Eat more than maintenance and lift. Stop listening to whatever bull you've been hearing.

above maintenance? YES! but by how much is what im trying to figure? 300 or 500? should i just do the good ole traditional 500?