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    For noobs

    Random thoughts, in no particular order, that might help clear away some of the fog that noobs seem to have when dealing with nutrition:



    *Eat the whole egg. The yolks are not silent killers. Trust me on this.


    *You're not an 'ectomorph,' 'endomorph,' 'putzomorph,' or whatever; you're a human, and are subject to the same basic rules of nutrition as every other human. If you're too fat, eat a little less. If you're too skinny, eat a little more.


    *Eating at night won't make you fat unless you eat past your daily calorie limit all the time.


    *Eating a lot of protein won't cause your 'kidneys/liver/pancreas/name-that-internal-organ' to explode.


    *Number of meals eaten in a day don't really matter. It's really just up to you. Really.


    *The only 'dirty' food is food that you dropped on the floor. And even that might still be edible if you just pretend the specks of dirt are black pepper.


    *Supplements are what their name implies, nothing more, nothing less.


    *Eat with a slant towards good health. A few portions of fruit and veg every day won't kill you even if you don't really like them.


    *'Hardgainers' exist only in the minds of those who think they are one.


    *Sugar/salt/sat fat/alcohol are not necessarily the enemy; lack of moderation is.


    *The biggest, most-ripped guy might not be the best source of nutrition information.


    *The skinniest or fattest guy might not be the worst source of nutrition information.


    *Second-guessing yourself and making constant changes on multiple fronts will only leave you chasing your own tail. Make a decision, then abide by it.


    *Whenever the topic of building mass/strength comes up, it seems that too often, common sense takes a hike. If something sounds too good to be true, it probably is.


    *Exclusionary eating plans or diets are dumb. Remember; common sense.


    *Nobody can tell you exactly how many calories you need to eat every day in order to reach your goal. Use the info in the stickies, apply some basic math skillz, make a reasonable estimate, and then stick with it for 3-4 weeks.
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    I shall be pointing relevant newbies to your post with the hope that they can acquire common sense when exposed to wisdom.
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    All great info for this newbie. Noted.
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    Good post! Even I enjoyed reading it
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    Good post! Very good read that s right to the point.
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    well said
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    Excellent post. I get pretty tired of having to change so many people's minds about nutrition.
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    Great post! My only hope is this get's stickied and the target audience reads this when they jump into this forum.
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    Great post I love reading these rants haha
    can't out train a bad diet

    can't out diet bad training
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    This is the first time I actually agree with you. And on every point besides maybe the "nothing less" part of what you said about supplements.

    *Second-guessing yourself and making constant changes on multiple fronts will only leave you chasing your own tail. Make a decision, then abide by it.
    -I really do think this is an important point.

    I would like to add:

    *Building muscle takes years. If you don't want to gain mostly fat, eat at a 10% surplus. Increase or decrease this after weighing yourself for a month. Bodyweight fluctuates so weigh yourself in the same state once per week. And remember that the mirror what you should really be following.
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    Great post. People make it harder than it really is
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    Wow clean and simple NICE!!!!
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    Great post, OP - very useful. Definitely needs to be stuck.
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    Wisdom.

    What a great post and i did get a good laugh with the dirty food part.
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    Great thread!is it true than hardgainers are better ti eat immedialtely before sleep a good meal(proteins-cabohydrates)or no?thanks..
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    Originally Posted by nikoslimpe View Post
    Great thread!is it true than hardgainers are better ti eat immedialtely before sleep a good meal(proteins-cabohydrates)or no?thanks..
    Hardgainers do not exist
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    Originally Posted by Dan8 View Post
    Hardgainers do not exist
    i mean these who take haeder weight....
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    William how dare you interject logic and common sense into the realm of nutrition and bodybuilding!!! What on earth are you thinking?


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    Originally Posted by nikoslimpe View Post
    Great thread!is it true than hardgainers are better ti eat immedialtely before sleep a good meal(proteins-cabohydrates)or no?thanks..
    Wrong venue, brah.

    If you have a question, post it in a new thread.


    After you've used the forum 'search' but were unable to find an answer to such a common topic (which will be highly unlikely).










    Originally Posted by rand18m View Post
    William how dare you interject logic and common sense into the realm of nutrition and bodybuilding!!! What on earth are you thinking?


    (Excellent as always my friend)!!
    Yeah, I know; trying to interject some logic, or at least, plain common sense, into teh forumz is one of my shortcomings, for sure.
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    Approved. Loved the point about dirty foods. Lol'd at thinking of the specks of dirt as black pepper.
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    After you've used the forum 'search' but were unable to find an answer to such a common topic (which will be highly unlikely).
    This would be the only thing I would add to the original post, at the very top in fact. Search before asking. So much more knowledge can be gained.
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