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    Originally Posted by SYRIANKID View Post
    I think you're way off. She's the anti-feminist. A feminist would suggest that the way an independent woman proves ownership of her body is to be promiscuous. They would trash her book and her as a "self-hating woman" serving the patriarchal agenda.
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    Originally Posted by tuved View Post
    OP left out this stuff in the article he posted...(which was written by the way by Henry Makow)
    lol, I must have known it was the jews.

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    Originally Posted by BEARDofNORRIS View Post
    Committed sex > FWB > One-night-stands > Jacking off.

    See how short that article could have been if written by a man?

    Also: I see that Syriankid is still just posting articles without injecting any personal opinions or discussion....
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    Originally Posted by SYRIANKID View Post

    Donna Freitas has a book, The End of Sex: How Hookup Culture is Leaving a Generation Unhappy, Sexually Unfulfilled, and Confused about Intimacy, that is based on anonymous surveys of more than 2,500 college students. She couldn't find "a single student who cited a long-term, committed romantic relationship that emerged from a traditional dating trajectory."

    Furthermore, young people don't like casual sex nearly as much as they pretend to. A measly four per cent of those she surveyed agreed that the "the best kind of sex is with no strings attached," and a massive 59 per cent agreed that "to engage in sex they needed to be in a committed relationship."

    These numbers, however, are belied by the "hook up" culture that pervades campus and beyond.

    "Although many students talked at length about having had sex," writes Freitas, "few mentioned whether or not they had enjoyed any of it. The act becomes largely irrelevant--it is the fact that they can claim the act that matters most."

    Clearly, young women are not giving themselves to strangers for pleasure but rather because perversity has become the norm. It's conformity.

    Instinctively, most young women want love and marriage. Little do they understand they are victims of a pernicious program of social engineering designed to turn heterosexuals into homosexuals, and destroy marriage and the traditional family in the process.

    Despite the media smokescreen, the vast majority of homosexuals do not marry and have children. They have anonymous sex instead. Homosexuals have been "hooking up" for centuries. It's called "cruisin." Instead of courtship, they have sex with whomever strikes their fancy, often a hundred times or more every year.

    Heteros are being turned into homosexuals in the sense that we cannot form a permanent bond with a member of the opposite sex. This is what sexual promiscuity does to people. When sex is monogamous, it serves as a glue between a man and woman. When it is promiscuous, it is the dynamite that blows them apart. This is the hell that homosexuals and all promiscuous people inhabit.

    ...

    The mass media is full of directives on how "hooking up" is healthy and modern. Young women should "experiment with their sexuality." Promiscuity is "empowerment." Young women obey even though they experience just the opposite. They feel degraded and used, for good reason. This is the cognitive dissonance that characterizes our world: the disparity between what we are told and what we experience. We cannot conceive that the inmates have taken over the mental asylum. But they have.

    In the bad old days before women weren't "empowered" (i.e. treated as fire hydrants for dogs,) men had to love them as wives and mothers before they could have sex. Eventually sexual attraction subsides and marriage is based on love as well as trust. But Satanists have inverted the natural order. Now, sex comes first and women are left trying to pick up the pieces afterward.

    What is more conducive to a successful marriage? Young women who consecrate their bodies for the future husband and father of their children? Or women who have anonymous sex with dozens of other men and women? Which one is the illuminati encouraging?

    Instead of conforming, young women need to unionize: no sex without courtship and love. It will start small but it will grow. Similarly young men should make it known that they will not marry women with more than 1-2 mishaps.

    In "1984", George Orwell metaphorically predicted a world where everything would be bent 45 degrees. Eventually, people walked at this angle and thought it "normal." We need to confront our predicament and walk straight and tall.
    Syriankid the problem with our society is that sex is no longer special anymore. It has become an instinctive act of lust and self gratification , the heart and soul no longer matter in the equation. People usually freak out when they find out that I'm 45 and a virgin, but I'm equally shocked that they could give their body so easily to someone in a short term relationship that really won't last.
    The 3 major theistic religions all stress no sex before marriage. We you share the body without the heart and soul your essentially separating the most important part of yourselves . We were meant for more, much more.
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    Originally Posted by IDrinkBloodLOL View Post
    One of 8,395,712,381,739,847 reasons why I'm a Mormon: one man, one woman for life, nothing before marriage and nothing outside of it, no divorce. Anything else ends in tragedy either for the individual or for the entire society if not both.
    Mormon women are so hot!!!
    It's too bad I can't marry anyone but a catholic woman.
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    The formula to get this happiness back is to get back to traditional family values.
    Another thing society has forgotten about is the practice of agape love.
    Eros is romantic love.
    If Eros isn't grounded in agape then it becomes a feeling just of this world.
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    Originally Posted by TH3SHR3DD3R View Post
    All morals are relative, including those stemming from supposed absolute moral systems. Indeed, it is those most absolute of moral systems which breeds the greatest immorality - if you are never wrong, then anything you do is right. If God be with us, who can be against us?
    This.

    Also what the OP posted is nuts. brb satanists, jews, homos are at fault. wut
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    Originally Posted by wallstreeter43 View Post
    Syriankid the problem with our society is that sex is no longer special anymore. It has become an instinctive act of lust and self gratification , the heart and soul no longer matter in the equation. People usually freak out when they find out that I'm 45 and a virgin, but I'm equally shocked that they could give their body so easily to someone in a short term relationship that really won't last.
    The 3 major theistic religions all stress no sex before marriage. We you share the body without the heart and soul your essentially separating the most important part of yourselves . We were meant for more, much more.
    The three major religions stress no sex before marriage because in the good ol' Bible days when Jesus, Mohammed, Abraham and Moses walked the Earth, it was believed that virgins were more likely to give men viable offspring, and the more virgins one could purchase/trade for the better. Our modern notions of love and romance are just that, modern - ancient marriage was considered utilitarian, a means to an end, and love and romance were reserved for friends and people that the person was not married to. It is only in recent times that we have developed the ideal of marrying and having romance and love with that - and we've been rewarded with a blistering divorce rate.

    There are other factors at play, too - like porn and finances and the ability of people to live within their own means by themselves. But let's not kid ourselves by acting like the Abrahamic faiths hold some secret wisdom to successful marriage. The Biblical ideal marriage is nothing like what modern marriage is.
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    i was following the article and then all of a sudden it plummeted off a cliff. wtf??
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    Originally Posted by MantisShrimp View Post
    ^^^
    This...as for SK, we all know he is a fundamentally [sic] good man but lettuce be realty...posting sour gwapes articles about how getting laid is destroying the world = Freudian reaction formation against the strong, healthy youthful and athletic urge to smash a few tens/hundred of those multi-ethnic Torontionian wimmenz
    Those aren't sour grapes those are cold sores.

    But I see your point. Promiscuity is psychologically and socially destructive. But on the other hand, it's so much fun. There are so many gorgeous women who cares about the long-term consequences? You have to weigh the trade-offs but by the time you have the vantage point of hind-sight it's too late to reverse the trend.

    By the way, these threads are a good representation of society. There are vocal and visceral reactions against the idea that promiscuity is bad or should be curtailed. But there are so many secret reps from people who agree yet don't want to speak up.
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    Originally Posted by Procrustes View Post
    Slooots -> Bad marriage -> Bad performance at work and in life -> Fukked up children from divorce -> Fukked up society -> Slooots

    And nobody thinks they are contributing to the problem when they are sloooting around.
    there are just as many retarted men as there is sloots, and they breed like ****ing rabbits creating massive amounts of dysfunctional kids, who can't get any good jobs cuz they sucked in school since parents were eating nachos n drinking beer watching football.
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    i agree everything with it.
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    SK, you can post some interesting and thought provoking articles, but this one is a real load of garbage. No offense. Like others have said, it sounds like it was written by some angry anti-feminist that never got theirs, so to speak.
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    Stopped reading when I realized it was a religious, anti-gay rant.
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    Originally Posted by Thinman View Post
    SK, you can post some interesting and thought provoking articles, but this one is a real load of garbage. No offense. Like others have said, it sounds like it was written by some angry anti-feminist that never got theirs, so to speak.
    So you think that promiscuity is a fulfilling lifestyle without consequences and that people who disagree just wish they could participate but can't?

    If you know college life, you know that it's not hard to be promiscuous, unless you have elbows-too-pointy misc standards.
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    Originally Posted by SYRIANKID View Post
    So you think that promiscuity is a fulfilling lifestyle without consequences and that people who disagree just wish they could participate but can't?

    If you know college life, you know that it's not hard to be promiscuous, unless you have elbows-too-pointy misc standards.
    Wow SK, so cold. Without consequences? Of course not. I'm out there martyring myself, to help people in need. Taking untold risks to bring a little bit of comfort into a sea of the wretched, tormented by their loneliness, unable to reach out and connect to the people around them. Not hard? You try getting out there and infusing a complete stranger with such love that they come away a better, un-embittered person. How about elevating the bond between two heterosexual girls by acting as a conduit for their feelings for each other? Your shallow view of the work I put in for the betterment of all is damaging and hurtful. The next time you're off courting some chaste, muslim girl maybe you should consider the possibility that she might not be so personable or insouciant had someone like me not at some previous point pumped her full of self confidence and a sense of receptivity.
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    Originally Posted by SYRIANKID View Post
    So you think that promiscuity is a fulfilling lifestyle without consequences and that people who disagree just wish they could participate but can't?

    If you know college life, you know that it's not hard to be promiscuous, unless you have elbows-too-pointy misc standards.
    Things that are lots of fun for a short while are virtually never meant to be long term fulfilling. Whether it's sex, boozing on a Saturday night, a roller coaster ride, or watching a great movie. Things that require work and self-discipline are the things that lead to long term fulfillment, like working hard at a job, helping out others in need, running a marathon, etc.

    That said, there needn't be consequences of promiscuity for part of a person's life. Obviously they aren't going to be living college party style at age 50. As hormones calm down, so does behavior usually. I do get a kick out of the article, treating this all as if it's something new. It's not.

    And lettuce beef cereal, I say much of the divorce rate is because we view nothing as good enough. Here in first world countries, we're never content with things being as great as they are. It has permeated every aspect of our lives. Expectations are so high that when we start having rocky times in our marriages, we instinctively say to ourselves "I'll bet there's someone else out there better for me" because every other standard of our living is consistently improving on a mass scale. Material possessions are constantly improving, so we supplant that about our relationships. If it's not great, it's terrible. Let's not forget people live much longer. Our time horizon has changed in the last few hundred years. 500 years ago you got married at age 15 because you couldn't wait to have sex and be okay with the church, and you almost certainly died by age 50. Now if you get married at age 25, you realize you'll probably be with that person 60-70 years. That's a long horizon to consider.
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    Originally Posted by frankenstein78 View Post
    500 years ago you got married at age 15 because you couldn't wait to have sex and be okay with the church, and you almost certainly died by age 50. Now if you get married at age 25, you realize you'll probably be with that person 60-70 years. That's a long horizon to consider.
    Yes, average length of old timey marriage was probably about 7 years until one of them died of some vile disease, or war or starvation or childbirth. Obviously divorce goes up when it becomes legal and people can expect to be together for 6 times that period or whatever. That's 6 old timey marriages and the neighbours won't hang you from the nearest tree for getting divorced.

    Increased material comfort and quick fix mentality as you mention must also play a part. When you're breaking your backs 14 hours a day, you're probably not thinking too much about whether your spouse is emotionally supportive of your career or whatever.
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    Yes, average length of old timey marriage was probably about 7 years until one of them died of some vile disease, or war or starvation or childbirth. Obviously divorce goes up when it becomes legal and people can expect to be together for 6 times that period or whatever. That's 6 old timey marriages and the neighbours won't hang you from the nearest tree for getting divorced.

    Increased material comfort and quick fix mentality as you mention must also play a part. When you breaking your backs 14 hours a day, you're probably not thinking too much about whether your spouse is emotionally supportive of your career or whatever.
    Precisely. We cannot apply old social norms to modern life, as there is almost nothing in common with just a few hundred years ago. Most everyone died decades before now. Well over half the population of the world were farmers, working from sun up to sun down. When the sun went down, the day was over. No machines to plow fields, let alone fly us to Paris or Miami for the weekend. Lots of free time is a relatively new concept in the course of human history. Travel is sooo much more convenient than 100 years ago, let alone 1000 years ago. Just think of how many more people we meet in our lives than the average person did during the Colonial period, let alone 1000 years ago. I guarantee I interact with more people within 1-2 weeks than the average person did in their entire lifetimes before the year 1850. I have more women flirt with and/or offer sex to me in 1 year than a man considered a player probably did in his lifetime 100 years ago. I'm not even bragging with that, it's a matter of sheer numbers of people we interact with now compared to then.

    200 years ago, even if you lived in the world's largest cities, you probably almost never went more than a 2 mile radius from your home. If you lived on a farm then, you probably only even said 'hello' to 100-300 people in your lifetime. And yet people of the past were so morally superior? More like, they had no choices. It is not a matter of 'moral degredation,' it is a matter of opportunity that did not used to exist. I'll bet I interact with 5 times as many people as my parents even ever did when they were young.
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    Syriankid the problem with our society is that sex is no longer special anymore. It has become an instinctive act of lust and self gratification , the heart and soul no longer matter in the equation. People usually freak out when they find out that I'm 45 and a virgin, but I'm equally shocked that they could give their body so easily to someone in a short term relationship that really won't last.
    The 3 major theistic religions all stress no sex before marriage. We you share the body without the heart and soul your essentially separating the most important part of yourselves . We were meant for more, much more.
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    Wow SK, so cold. Without consequences? Of course not. I'm out there martyring myself, to help people in need. Taking untold risks to bring a little bit of comfort into a sea of the wretched, tormented by their loneliness, unable to reach out and connect to the people around them. Not hard? You try getting out there and infusing a complete stranger with such love that they come away a better, un-embittered person. How about elevating the bond between two heterosexual girls by acting as a conduit for their feelings for each other? Your shallow view of the work I put in for the betterment of all is damaging and hurtful. The next time you're off courting some chaste, muslim girl maybe you should consider the possibility that she might not be so personable or insouciant had someone like me not at some previous point pumped her full of self confidence and a sense of receptivity.
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    Originally Posted by SYRIANKID View Post
    So you think that promiscuity is a fulfilling lifestyle without consequences and that people who disagree just wish they could participate but can't?

    If you know college life, you know that it's not hard to be promiscuous, unless you have elbows-too-pointy misc standards.
    I never said it was. It is just this persons rant, especially about gays is beyond ridiculous.
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    Is it just me or does it look like she is teaching the audience how to hold a cawk during a blow job?
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    Originally Posted by BenZowman View Post
    Wow SK, so cold. Without consequences? Of course not. I'm out there martyring myself, to help people in need. Taking untold risks to bring a little bit of comfort into a sea of the wretched, tormented by their loneliness, unable to reach out and connect to the people around them. Not hard? You try getting out there and infusing a complete stranger with such love that they come away a better, un-embittered person. How about elevating the bond between two heterosexual girls by acting as a conduit for their feelings for each other? Your shallow view of the work I put in for the betterment of all is damaging and hurtful. The next time you're off courting some chaste, muslim girl maybe you should consider the possibility that she might not be so personable or insouciant had someone like me not at some previous point pumped her full of self confidence and a sense of receptivity.


    I lol'd, but seriously that's because we both see how opportunistic it is for guys to engage in promiscuity (or pimping). Sure you're just a capitalist, meeting client needs with products they're willing to pay for. How can that be wrong? People never make poor life choices. On top of that, everyone should learn from personal mistakes and not from the collective wisdom of people who have been burned.
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    You can just look at the marriages of those who engaged in promiscuous sexual relations.

    That's where it really hits hard.
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    Originally Posted by Kurd4evah View Post
    You can just look at the marriages of those who engaged in promiscuous sexual relations.

    That's where it really hits hard.
    And your point is?
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    Originally Posted by Thinman View Post
    And your point is?
    point is it ruins marriages, long term.
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    Originally Posted by wallstreeter43 View Post
    Syriankid the problem with our society is that sex is no longer special anymore. It has become an instinctive act of lust and self gratification , the heart and soul no longer matter in the equation. People usually freak out when they find out that I'm 45 and a virgin, but I'm equally shocked that they could give their body so easily to someone in a short term relationship that really won't last.
    The 3 major theistic religions all stress no sex before marriage. We you share the body without the heart and soul your essentially separating the most important part of yourselves . We were meant for more, much more.
    Uh huh. That sounds like the well polished explanation of someone with issues that won't allow them to have sex.

    good luck with that
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    Originally Posted by Kurd4evah View Post
    You can just look at the marriages of those who engaged in promiscuous sexual relations.

    That's where it really hits hard.
    not always
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    Originally Posted by SYRIANKID View Post
    So you think that promiscuity is a fulfilling lifestyle without consequences and that people who disagree just wish they could participate but can't?

    If you know college life, you know that it's not hard to be promiscuous, unless you have elbows-too-pointy misc standards.
    I think a promiscuous lifestyle or any other lifestyle that someone chooses may not be fulfilling to you, but you're not them. People who bitch about others getting laid usually aren't getting laid themselves..thats why they're so bitchy.
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