Sacrifice form for bigger weights?

**agrier9** · 02-23-2013, 01:07 AM

Originally Posted by TheJediBrah

bro you've already turned the conversation into a spastic with no argument making himself look like an idiot

I have no intention of reciprocating and making it 2 such spastics

you just "reciprocated". Bro you can come down off the pedestal you've inadvertently placed yourself on.

**xSup3r** · 02-23-2013, 01:53 AM

i sacrifice some form w/ heavier weights.

**timmzzy1** · 02-23-2013, 02:26 AM

Originally Posted by Bears4Ever

It's funny how with my routine I've gotten stronger and bigger in a month and a half than any of you wannabe kissass *******s will be in a year, phuckoff and know what you're talkin about before you troll on people #b!itch

Please post pics, if you've made that much progress

**Xuaxace** · 02-23-2013, 02:31 AM

This is a tricky topic because the defition of "proper form" is different from person to person. For what I understand that most people say is that perfect form is when the intended muscle group is being targeted and no momentum or outside force is used to move said weight, so proper form is seemed as controlled movement.

However, is a doing movements with extra momentum or involving more muscle groups to carry more weight improper form? Not neceserely. Both strict/non momentum and cheat/momentum sets have their own underlying benefits and both should be used in a proper routine. Too much of either will have suboptimal results. E.g always being a form nazy (inb4kaivideo) will really make it hard for progressive overload to happen, cheating too much will make it hard to consistently hit the muscle group.

**timmzzy1** · 02-23-2013, 02:34 AM

Originally Posted by Xuaxace

This is a tricky topic because the defition of "proper form" is different from person to person. For what I understand that most people say is that perfect form is when the intended muscle group is being targeted and no momentum or outside force is used to move said weight, so proper form is seemed as controlled movement.

However, is a doing movements with extra momentum or involving more muscle groups to carry more weight improper form? Not neceserely. Both strict/non momentum and cheat/momentum sets have their own underlying benefits and both should be used in a proper routine. Too much of either will have suboptimal results. E.g always being a form nazy (inb4kaivideo) will really make it hard for progressive overload to happen, cheating too much will make it hard to consistently hit the muscle group.

This. But what people call "improper form" can be used to isolate certain areas, for example, using momentum on pull downs can help take your arms out of the movement a bit so you can focus more on you back

**Xuaxace** · 02-23-2013, 02:43 AM

Originally Posted by timmzzy1

This. But what people call "improper form" can be used to isolate certain areas, for example, using momentum on pull downs can help take your arms out of the movement a bit so you can focus more on you back

Definitely. I "cheat" on most movements ( mix strict and cheated ) and have gotten great results from that. E.g other uses for cheating for example, cheat barbell curls (with an emphasized negative) helps strengthen the bicep tendon a lot, one of the only ways to strengthen the tendon to prevent tears with a mix grip on deadlift.

**winsthon8** · 02-23-2013, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by petertuck

6'0 174 pounds after 15 months and you are offering yourself an an example to prove bro splits are the best?

Come again mate?

**Chase1995** · 02-23-2013, 10:00 AM

Honestly, i'd say that it depends how much form you're actually sacrificing, if its still OK form and your doing heavier, i would go heavier. You're not gonna get much stronger if your doing, say 12 reps with perfect form ALL THE TIME.

I work out 3 days, rest, 3 days rest.
repeat.

**KrazyEyezKillah** · 02-23-2013, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by Xuaxace

This is a tricky topic because the defition of "proper form" is different from person to person. For what I understand that most people say is that perfect form is when the intended muscle group is being targeted and no momentum or outside force is used to move said weight, so proper form is seemed as controlled movement.

However, is a doing movements with extra momentum or involving more muscle groups to carry more weight improper form? Not neceserely. Both strict/non momentum and cheat/momentum sets have their own underlying benefits and both should be used in a proper routine. Too much of either will have suboptimal results. E.g always being a form nazy (inb4kaivideo) will really make it hard for progressive overload to happen, cheating too much will make it hard to consistently hit the muscle group.

Totally agree with all of this.

Originally Posted by winsthon8

Come again mate?

Dude once again to each his own but bro splits ARE NOT THE BEST WAY TO TRAIN. The thing is, with both this and the IF thing, you seem really insistant on saying that because something has yielded you results, it must be best.
It isnt. This has been beaten into the ground time and time again. Frequency is better than volume. Hit each muscle twice a week directly. This, like the losing fat while gaining muscle thing, is not debatable. It is fact. And your results would be better if you utilized this knowledge. Again no hate intended, just saying you're wrong.

**petertuck** · 02-23-2013, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by winsthon8

Come again mate?

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Originally Posted by petertuck

6'0 174 pounds after 15 months and you are offering yourself an an example to prove bro splits are the best?