Sacrifice form for bigger weights?

[WatsonS90]

I see a lot of people on here saying stuff like "Absolutely smash that chest hard" and/or "Hit them shoulders a lot to get big!".

I was just wondering, I've only just recently started taking lifting seriously - today I done Biceps & Triceps.

One of my exercises were dumbbell tricep extensions and the most I could manage on my left arm was a 6Kg dumbbell in order to keep good form. To really stimulate this muscle and get it bigger should I be maybe try upping the weight to 10-12kg and sacrifice my form?

Cheers for any help!

[Maars]

form over weight unless you want to injure yourself, imo

[SammmyChannnnnn]

Form > weight

I strained my lower back doing deadlfts. Was doing a couple of reps, went one rep max, went to bad form, hurt my lower back.

This is the 2nd week off. 14 days off weights feels like forever. Regret but I can only learn from mistakes.

So...IMO never sacrifice form for weights.

[Kevin1195]

Youre not really taking lifting seriously if all you did was arms.

[MattBurke]

I see a lot of people on here saying stuff like "Absolutely smash that chest hard" and/or "Hit them shoulders a lot to get big!".

I was just wondering, I've only just recently started taking lifting seriously - today I done Biceps & Triceps.

One of my exercises were dumbbell tricep extensions and the most I could manage on my left arm was a 6Kg dumbbell in order to keep good form. To really stimulate this muscle and get it bigger should I be maybe try upping the weight to 10-12kg and sacrifice my form?

Cheers for any help!

I'd say if you can lift heavier than 6kg then yeah maybe you should take weight over form, because you should take maybe a 10kg do as many reps as possible with it then go down to 8kg do as many reps as possible and so on, this is a good way to build strength and muscle faster, but still don't make the weight too heavy as it is good to maintain some kind of form

[WatsonS90]

Youre not really taking lifting seriously if all you did was arms.

I currently do:

Mon: Chest
Tue: Back:
Wed: Legs
Thur: Shoulders
Fri: Arms

However starting Monday I'm thinking about switching to something like Babylovers SS. What do you guys think?

[WatsonS90]

Thanks guys for your responses, now I know!

[winsthon8]

If you have to sacrifice your form to lift the weight, then you're lifting too heavy. Form>Weight at all times.
Also why are you working out like you're a professional bodybuilder?

You're a beginner, working out 3 days a week will be plenty. Follow a monday/wednesday/friday split

M-chest/tris
W-legs/abs
F-back/bis

That's the routine I followed and it worked wonders for me.

Remember, you build muscle during rest, not when you're constantly destroying them every 2 days.

[SammmyChannnnnn]

I currently do:

Mon: Chest
Tue: Back:
Wed: Legs
Thur: Shoulders
Fri: Arms

However starting Monday I'm thinking about switching to something like Babylovers SS. What do you guys think?

What are your goals? Aesthetics? Strength?

Well, Id always suggest doing Lyle McDonald's Generic Bulking Routine.
You can check it out.

[Bears4Ever]

Youre not really taking lifting seriously if all you did was arms.

So I'm in the gym for 2 hours on my bi/tri/forearm day and thats not taking it seriously?

[WatsonS90]

If you have to sacrifice your form to lift the weight, then you're lifting too heavy. Form>Weight at all times.
Also why are you working out like you're a professional bodybuilder?

You're a beginner, working out 3 days a week will be plenty. Follow a monday/wednesday/friday split

M-chest/tris
W-legs/abs
F-back/bis

That's the routine I followed and it worked wonders for me.

Remember, you build muscle during rest, not when you're constantly destroying them every 2 days.

Thanks for your input mate, that's what I'm thinking of switching to starting Monday. I'm skinny-fat and weak so I want some strength man.

Fed up of being a *******.

[WatsonS90]

What are your goals? Aesthetics? Strength?

Well, Id always suggest doing Lyle McDonald's Generic Bulking Routine.
You can check it out.

You can see a pic of me but looking at my profile on my first thread. I'd link you to it but I need 50 posts (getting there).

My goal for the moment is to gain some strength and just look bigger. I'm not too fussed about aesthetics. I just don't want to be weak anymore, i.e. skinny wrists, skinny arms.

[Bears4Ever]

You can see a pic of me but looking at my profile on my first thread. I'd link you to it but I need 50 posts (getting there).

My goal for the moment is to gain some strength and just look bigger. I'm not too fussed about aesthetics. I just don't want to be weak anymore, i.e. skinny wrists, skinny arms.

Keep at the lifting bro. I was in your situation and after about a month and a half of lifting six days a week I got to be as strong as my friends. And my friends had been lifting for like 2 years. But I really reccomend a lot of protein, I know a great protein shake if you're interested. Also maybe some creatine if you want to. And definitely make sure you eat solid meat everyday. I'm talking about lean meat. Grilled chicken, even grilled hamburgers if it's the right type of beef, etc. The strength will come, just eat a lot of protein and calories and conistently lift.

[SammmyChannnnnn]

If you have to sacrifice your form to lift the weight, then you're lifting too heavy. Form>Weight at all times.
Also why are you working out like you're a professional bodybuilder?

You're a beginner, working out 3 days a week will be plenty. Follow a monday/wednesday/friday split

M-chest/tris
W-legs/abs
F-back/bis

That's the routine I followed and it worked wonders for me.

Remember, you build muscle during rest, not when you're constantly destroying them every 2 days.

OP, in all seriousness, don't do this routine.

Not trying to be a jerk or anything (just my opinion), but this split isn't best for you. This split hits your muscles at 1x frequency a week. You should be hitting your muscles 2-3x frequency a week.

Yes, muscles grow when rested, but would 1 set of bicep curls need the same recovery as 10 sets of biceps curls? Obviously not. It is wrong to say muscles can't grow every 2 days. It clearly depends on volume and intensity.

Also, the more frequently you hit a muscle group in a week, or the more frequently you do the same exercise in a week, the faster you can progress. OP, you're a beginner. You'd benefit greatly from either fullbody 3x a week, or an upper lower split like lyle McDonald's bulking routine.

Muscle protein synthesis is only elevated for 48-72 hours max. If you're hitting a muscle group once a week, you're not making full use of your potential to progress. And, 8 sets for a muscle group such as back, done twice a week, would allow better progression than 16 sets done once a week.

Just hit your muscles with a higher frequency. You're a beginner, you can definitely recover AND ADAPT to the frequency of high frequency training.

[WatsonS90]

OP, in all seriousness, don't do this routine.

Not trying to be a jerk or anything (just my opinion), but this split isn't best for you. This split hits your muscles at 1x frequency a week. You should be hitting your muscles 2-3x frequency a week.

Yes, muscles grow when rested, but would 1 set of bicep curls need the same recovery as 10 sets of biceps curls? Obviously not. It is wrong to say muscles can't grow every 2 days. It clearly depends on volume and intensity.

Also, the more frequently you hit a muscle group in a week, or the more frequently you do the same exercise in a week, the faster you can progress. OP, you're a beginner. You'd benefit greatly from either fullbody 3x a week, or an upper lower split like lyle McDonald's bulking routine.

Muscle protein synthesis is only elevated for 48-72 hours max. If you're hitting a muscle group once a week, you're not making full use of your potential to progress. And, 8 sets for a muscle group such as back, done twice a week, would allow better progression than 16 sets done once a week.

Just hit your muscles with a higher frequency. You're a beginner, you can definitely recover AND ADAPT to the frequency of high frequency training.

Thanks for your lengthy response, I'm thinking about Babylovers SS. What do you think man?

[SammmyChannnnnn]

Thanks for your lengthy response, I'm thinking about Babylovers SS. What do you think man?

Did it a couple of months. Decent if you're adding proper assistance exercises (pull ups, dips) and not too much isolation movements. Burning small muscle groups through too much isolations may hinder progress in strength on your core lifts.

Babylover's SS hits each muscle group once every 5th day which is okay, but if you can tolerate higher frequency, try Lyle McDonald's bulking routine. My personal favorite.

[TheSaltyAngus]

>beginner takes lifting seriously
>beginner has a whole day for biceps and triceps

pick one

[Kevin1195]

So I'm in the gym for 2 hours on my bi/tri/forearm day and thats not taking it seriously?

That means youre wasting your time.

[WannaBherculean]

OP..1st perfect your form with weights which you can handle and then when you have gulped it down and made it a part of your reflex action, you can move on to "heavy weights".

[jesteraq]

Form is imperative before going into heavier weights. You don't want to injure yourself and set yourself back now, do you? Building your body takes patience, it's not a race.

[WatsonS90]

Form is imperative before going into heavier weights. You don't want to injure yourself and set yourself back now, do you? Building your body takes patience, it's not a race.

Cheers, thanks for everyones input on this.

[WatsonS90]

That means youre wasting your time.

Rather than answering back with your point-blank comments why not elaborate further and tell us why it's known as wasting time. It'll be more helpful...

[winsthon8]

OP, in all seriousness, don't do this routine.

Not trying to be a jerk or anything (just my opinion), but this split isn't best for you. This split hits your muscles at 1x frequency a week. You should be hitting your muscles 2-3x frequency a week.

Yes, muscles grow when rested, but would 1 set of bicep curls need the same recovery as 10 sets of biceps curls? Obviously not. It is wrong to say muscles can't grow every 2 days. It clearly depends on volume and intensity.

Also, the more frequently you hit a muscle group in a week, or the more frequently you do the same exercise in a week, the faster you can progress. OP, you're a beginner. You'd benefit greatly from either fullbody 3x a week, or an upper lower split like lyle McDonald's bulking routine.

Muscle protein synthesis is only elevated for 48-72 hours max. If you're hitting a muscle group once a week, you're not making full use of your potential to progress. And, 8 sets for a muscle group such as back, done twice a week, would allow better progression than 16 sets done once a week.

Just hit your muscles with a higher frequency. You're a beginner, you can definitely recover AND ADAPT to the frequency of high frequency training.

To each their own. I followed this routine and you can tell from my progress photos it worked. (Note I did this for a year and each time I worked out I gave 120%). In my humble opinion I believe beginners shouldn't have high frequency training because since they are new to the whole lifting thing, their bodies will need to get adjusted to getting beat up all of the time. I've been lifting for 15 months and I'm only working out 4 days a week and I'm seeing great gains.

Just see what works best for you OP, don't go sprinting in a marathon. Take your time and get your pace right.

[Johneffer]

I see a lot of people on here saying stuff like "Absolutely smash that chest hard" and/or "Hit them shoulders a lot to get big!".

I was just wondering, I've only just recently started taking lifting seriously - today I done Biceps & Triceps.

One of my exercises were dumbbell tricep extensions and the most I could manage on my left arm was a 6Kg dumbbell in order to keep good form. To really stimulate this muscle and get it bigger should I be maybe try upping the weight to 10-12kg and sacrifice my form?

Cheers for any help!

quality over quantity ...

[Aaronza]

What is going on here

[RLLN]

Fellow beginner here. You can see the routine I'm doing in my log (yes, shameless plug I am promoting my log). I've heard that as a beginner you want to do full-body splits so you gain some base strength and muscle before going on to more complex split. Perhaps it's an opinion thing?

[ShortBrah3030]

So I'm in the gym for 2 hours on my bi/tri/forearm day and thats not taking it seriously?

lol

Omg

[AestheticWnaBe]

What? So u Workout 5 days in a row -.- ?

[WatsonS90]

What is going on here

Sup?

[WatsonS90]

What? So u Workout 5 days in a row -.- ?

Yeah but like I said above I don't know whether I should be doing a 3 day / week workout regime.

Mon, Wed, Fri.