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    Originally Posted by Nonsense916 View Post
    i can confirm i do all the exercises posted in op
    Woah, post a proper full pic so I can fap to it.

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    Originally Posted by Cplexus View Post
    A year ago I went too heavy on db shoulder press, my left arm failed and the db rotated my arm backwards. I also was benching way too heavy way too often. I now get snap action in my left rotator and some strain (not pain, but feels unstable) but I cannot exactly identify where (bicep tie in? medial head?)

    I have been doing OH pushpress, leaning lateral raises and lots of facepulls

    TBH im scared of DB shoulder press but everyone states its one of the best shoulder builders. By the time I kick up the weight and get a few reps my form feels entirely unstable.

    insight?
    Do as much weight as you can for the desired reps goal while in full control over the exercise

    and DB press are fine as long as you follow the previous tip.
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    Originally Posted by MomasBoyOnline View Post
    In for later. Advice on no. of reps and sets that are best for shoulders? majority of people will seem to say higher reps?
    I left the rep part because I learned that everybody is slightly different. You need to experiment and see what works best for you. But in general i like to do 3-4 sets 6~8 reps on the compound exercises except the Face Pull(read the instructions i wrote about it) and 2-3 sets 8~12 reps in the isolation movements. this works best for me.
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    Nice job OP
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    mirin back development op, gonna hit shoulders tomorrow morning.
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    Followed your back routine - deadlifts (leg days), will give this a go next week, did shoulders today
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    Originally Posted by aTeam_ View Post
    Nice job OP
    Originally Posted by Dasser View Post
    mirin back development op, gonna hit shoulders tomorrow morning.
    Originally Posted by Oko93 View Post
    Followed your back routine - deadlifts (leg days), will give this a go next week, did shoulders today
    thank you guys
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    Originally Posted by Staminkia View Post
    some good, some less good advice in here imo.
    elaborate more.
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    Isn't this DiamondDelts guide from a few years ago?
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    Originally Posted by Cakky1 View Post
    Isn't this DiamondDelts guide from a few years ago?
    What? not sure what is this lol but i just wrote this article today.
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    Originally Posted by FruityPebbles View Post
    Appreciate the response! I am incorporating more rear delt workouts since they are lacking but do you think reverse pec deck + rear delt raises is too much / overtraining? I am trying to hit them hard as possible.

    Routine:

    Seated DB shoulder press
    military press
    lateral raise
    reverse pec deck
    face pulls
    and will include the rear delt raises
    No they aren't too much. you need to experiment and monitor the results tho, because people's body responses vary.

    About over training this is always over-looked over-training doesn't happen in a single muscle group it is state that happens to your body if the recovery doesn't meet the volume of training. check "over-training" on Wikipedia for more info
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    cliffs of thread: How To Build Big Round Shoulders
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    Surprisingly people have told me that my shoulders are too big. I was like wut? Delts overpowering arms is more aesthetic IMO.
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    Originally Posted by deadhead6391 View Post
    Surprisingly people have told me that my shoulders are too big. I was like wut? Delts overpowering arms is more aesthetic IMO.
    Agreed.
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    How about weekly volume? If you train shoulders correctly, is once a week enough or is it OK to go twice a week?

    EDIT: EXample: I do shoulders on Monday. Would it be OK to do, maybe just lateral raises on Wed or Fri if I feel they're lagging?
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    Originally Posted by Turd Ferguson View Post
    How about weekly volume? If you train shoulders correctly, is once a week enough or is it OK to go twice a week?

    EDIT: EXample: I do shoulders on Monday. Would it be OK to do, maybe just lateral raises on Wed or Fri if I feel they're lagging?
    Training twice a week is best for a novice or intermediate lifter unless you are an accomplished lifter(those have such slow recovery due to lifting weights close to their genetic limits) you should be hitting each body part at least twice a week, i'd go easier on the volume tho.
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    Originally Posted by SexyBack1 View Post
    Training twice a week is best for a novice or intermediate lifter unless you are an accomplished lifter(those have such slow recovery due to lifting weights close to their genetic limits) you should be hitting each body part at least twice a week, i'd go easier on the volume tho.
    You mean for each session, go lighter on the volume if you're going to do them twice per week?
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    Originally Posted by Turd Ferguson View Post
    You mean for each session, go lighter on the volume if you're going to do them twice per week?
    If you are going to train twice a week do less volume for each season. I would still do my regular 20 sets( if they were 20) but divide them on the two seasons, matter of fact i did ran an upper/lower split for years though it i used to do DB Seated Shoulder Press x2 sets and Side Lateral Raises x2 sets for upper A, and did BTN BB Press and face pull 2 sets each aswell for upper day B for total 8 sets per week and it gave me awesome gains.
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    Who the fuk does shoulders? Bishes don't give a fuk about shoulders. Whatever shoulder work I get is from bench press. Good enough for me.
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    Originally Posted by SexyBack1 View Post
    If you are going to train twice a week do less volume for each season. I would still do my regular 20 sets( if they were 20) but divide them on the two seasons, matter of fact i did ran an upper/lower split for years though it i used to do DB Seated Shoulder Press x2 sets and Side Lateral Raises x2 sets for upper A, and did BTN BB Press and face pull 2 sets each aswell for upper day B for total 8 sets per week and it gave me awesome gains.
    Cool, thanks man. Realized lately that mine need A LOT of work. Gonna give this a try. Repped earlier.
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    Op

    What's gonna be your next muscle group article/thread about? And when will it be posted?
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    Originally Posted by M1LD_S View Post
    Good post brah. Pretty basic info but should help a lot of beginners and brahs at a plateau.
    Thanks brah

    Originally Posted by miguel1994 View Post
    What's gonna be your next muscle group article/thread about? And when will it be posted?
    Not sure yet might run a poll, soon as i find time in my hand.
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    actually was thinking about my small shoulders and needed this, thanks. canyou do links to videos of the less obvious exercises?
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    Originally Posted by theyseeme View Post
    actually was thinking about my small shoulders and needed this, thanks. canyou do links to videos of the less obvious exercises?
    thanks, Just write the name on youtube and iam sure you will find alot of hits.
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    funny how people still believe building a muscle up is a great mystery.

    lift weights and stimulate the muscle
    eat
    hope your genetics are good enough

    brb trying to make it so complicated.
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    and what exercises would you recommend to do if someone is doing chest delts and triceps one day ?
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    and what exercises would you recommend to do if someone is doing chest delts and triceps one day ?
    provide more info about your routine
    MUST READ about back development : http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=151735043

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