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    about to go do legs and delts. critique on how my delt workout sounds?

    seated BB shoulder press
    arnold press
    upright rows
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    My opinion I do shoulders all by its self right now.. I have gone about a 6 weeks were I did back and shoulders together = for a long day.. me personally Chest is an all day affair mixed in with some core if I still have it in me to do so..
    Originally Posted by silkyjohnson11 View Post
    My shoulders are lagging. I do chest and shoulders on the same day. I always either incline or flat bench first and the go to overhead press. Do you think the problem is I do them on the same day?
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    so op Im not bulking now just doing maintenance as I cut

    that being said, I have decent delts but after years of lifting not seeing much growth when I do bulk....

    I see huge gains in my back with added volume, do you feel this works for shoulders? Maybe 5-6 sets of compounds mixed with 2-3 of the auxiliaries? rep range 6-12?

    or what are you suggest sets/reps? once late summer comes I really want to focus on my shoulders.
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    shoulders are my favorite body part to train and i agree with everything itt
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    Shoulders have always been my strongest feature.

    Military press
    Dumbell shoulder press
    Face pulls

    done.
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    Originally Posted by SELCOUTH View Post
    Will try to find you the other article, about the BTN press i have used this movement for years possibly the first shoulder movement I have ever used, and I pretty much feel it there alot of people / studies confirms that aswell but you have the right to disagree.
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    Who the hell says their back is too big?

    should add this pic to the OP btw



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    Nice read op.
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    Originally Posted by silkyjohnson11 View Post
    My shoulders are lagging. I do chest and shoulders on the same day. I always either incline or flat bench first and the go to overhead press. Do you think the problem is I do them on the same day?
    your weight is pretty light compared to your height that will be a big element. I don't think doing both in same day is reason aswell.

    Originally Posted by Glutes4DaSloots View Post
    Why hit traps on shoulder day? Traps are a pulling muscle, not a pushing muscle. (Not calling you out, legitimately curious)
    Because I deadlift during back day which hits my traps as well and i like to train them more than once a week

    Originally Posted by matw View Post
    about to go do legs and delts. critique on how my delt workout sounds?

    seated BB shoulder press
    arnold press
    upright rows
    lateral raises super set with lying rear delt raises
    Looks fine I'd switch Arnold press to regular DB shoulder press or face pull depend on your needs I feel effort you use during the rotation movement of Arnold press is unnecessary you could save it and press heavier weight.
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    Originally Posted by Glutes4DaSloots View Post
    Why hit traps on shoulder day? Traps are a pulling muscle, not a pushing muscle. (Not calling you out, legitimately curious)
    You're rear delts are a "pulling muscle" as well. Doesn't matter.
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    Originally Posted by Mikelawton View Post
    ive dislocated my shoulder before, but ive done the behind the neck shoulder press and i actually feel less stress than I do on regular OHP. you think i should still stick with front rather than behind neck?
    Just did behind the neck presses for the first time last week and know this feel.
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    Originally Posted by Jagd24 View Post
    so op Im not bulking now just doing maintenance as I cut

    that being said, I have decent delts but after years of lifting not seeing much growth when I do bulk....

    I see huge gains in my back with added volume, do you feel this works for shoulders? Maybe 5-6 sets of compounds mixed with 2-3 of the auxiliaries? rep range 6-12?

    or what are you suggest sets/reps? once late summer comes I really want to focus on my shoulders.
    reps and sets will vary from an individual to another you need to experiment and figure out urself for me I'd do 3-4 sets on compound movements 6~8 reps and 2~3 sets of isolation movements 8~12 reps.
    Originally Posted by Brad155 View Post
    Shoulders have always been my strongest feature.

    Military press
    Dumbell shoulder press
    Face pulls

    done.
    Pretty basic and balanced, love it. And if it is working for u stick it it.
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    Thanks brah, rear delts of mine def need work.
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    Will these exercises benefit me, I don't have shoulders at all
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    Awesome thread OP.

    I found this post on SimplyShredded amazing, and the bb'er, Jim Cordova, has some of the best shoulders I've seen!

    http://www.simplyshredded.com/pumped...thickness.html
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    great read OP. Repped
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    My only .02 is that people should be very careful when doing upright rows and behind the back press

    Pepper your rotator cuff for snap city if these give you pain
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    My shoulders are lacking by far the most, going to start hitting them harder, thanks op!
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    Originally Posted by Gudino95 View Post
    Will these exercises benefit me, I don't have shoulders at all
    No read the beginning of the article carefully a beginner should stick to basic movements a barbel overhead press will do the trick for u. specially during a basic beginner's routine like all pro's
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    Originally Posted by VitaCrave View Post
    My only .02 is that people should be very careful when doing upright rows and behind the back press

    Pepper your rotator cuff for snap city if these give you pain
    Your 2 cents are 2 million dollars sir, I already mentioned that in each exercise particularly and I couldn't stress it enough if find it uncomfortable to perform any of these moves he should stay away off it.
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    Totally agree, disproportionately larger shoulders always make a physique look aesthetic.
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    Originally Posted by SexyBack1 View Post
    No read the beginning of the article carefully a beginner should stick to basic movements a barbel overhead press will do the trick for u. specially during a basic beginner's routine like all pro's
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    Originally Posted by FruityPebbles View Post
    Thanks for the info OP, have a question for you though. I dun goofd and been doing front db raises for awhile (targets frontal shoulder) and now they are too huge. I realize incline bench / seated db target the frontal as well. What should I do now?
    drop the front raises if you already havnt focus on your lateral and rear delts and the time will heal it.
    Originally Posted by FruityPebbles View Post
    Been doing reverse pec dec/ face pulls and shrugs and target sides / rear more now.
    well done.
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    Aware me the differnce between reverse pec dec and rear delt raises (not lateral raises)? Pec dec has a weird motion haha
    All are isolation movements for the rear delts




    People tend to do Lateral raises like this and they end up cheated with their lower back



    instead, try doing them like this:

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    A year ago I went too heavy on db shoulder press, my left arm failed and the db rotated my arm backwards. I also was benching way too heavy way too often. I now get snap action in my left rotator and some strain (not pain, but feels unstable) but I cannot exactly identify where (bicep tie in? medial head?)

    I have been doing OH pushpress, leaning lateral raises and lots of facepulls

    TBH im scared of DB shoulder press but everyone states its one of the best shoulder builders. By the time I kick up the weight and get a few reps my form feels entirely unstable.

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    I know guys who just do military presses and side lateral raises and their shoulders are epic.
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    In for later. Advice on no. of reps and sets that are best for shoulders? majority of people will seem to say higher reps?
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    some good, some less good advice in here imo.
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