I started cutting a few days ago, as my bf% was getting high. On my bulk, I reached a bench press max of 320 lbs and also got a 5RM of 285..., however, I was getting burned out from the heavy lifting and took a few days off, and today came back and was barely able to bench 275x4, which is a huge strength loss for just a few days.
Each time I have gone on a cut, I've lost tons of strength, however I don't want that to happen again. I was thinking that if I don't have too big of a deficit (currently, 2600-2700 calories a day) I could still slowly make some gains on my bench.
I was thinking of running this program, do you guys think it could work?
http://www.impulseadventure.com/weights/bench-rick.html
Each time I go on a cut, it's the same chit...brb 2 weeks ago could bench 285x5, now just a few days into the cut struggling to get 275x4, it's so frustrating watching the hard work go to waste and in just a matter of few days losing strength it took me weeks or even months to gain
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Thread: Increasing bench on a cut
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01-22-2013, 06:59 AM #1
Increasing bench on a cut
Last edited by Panterabreh; 01-23-2013 at 03:48 AM.
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01-22-2013, 07:05 AM #2
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Trying to do everything will lead to accomplishing nothing. Either cut while training hard to try and keep strength, or keep things the way you are going while trying to increase strength.
Cutting while trying to increase strength is mentally damaging and physically improbable.Strongman Training Log: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=138026593
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01-22-2013, 07:16 AM #3
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01-22-2013, 07:41 AM #4
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01-22-2013, 08:38 AM #5
So I shouldn't attempt to gain even just slight amounts of strength on a cut? Because I've seen lots of people making small gains on their lifts even while cutting, and my diet is in check, I'm not in a very big deficit, I'm getting adequate fat and protein and carbs aren't too low so why wouldnt I be able to gain a bit of strength?
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01-22-2013, 09:18 AM #6
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01-22-2013, 09:39 AM #7
your muscles can either grow or shrink. it's pretty rare that you are at perfect equilibrium and stay the exact same. that being said, like isaku said many people can increase their lifts while losing body weight because they are new to lifting, get better form, etc. but generally once you are no longer a novice, you have to choose which result you want more and realize that goal independently of everything else. not only will you get better results that way (ie more strength gains on a bulk than you could get while trying to gain strength on a cut), but it will also just be generally easier.
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01-22-2013, 09:46 AM #8
when I cut down from 320 to 275 summer/fall 2012 I lost about 15% off my raw lifts, am still working on recovering from that, but I'm going to be putting weight back on to get into my gear again, so it should come back pretty quick.
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01-22-2013, 09:57 AM #9
Bench is the worst about losing strength on a cut.
Over the past year, I competed at 203 lbs, 197 lbs, and 181 lbs. Here are my contest results:
Bodyweight: 203 - 197 - 181
Squat: 580 - 570 - 575
Bench: 365 - 360 - 330 (Really strict judging at the last meet at 181)
DL: 555 - 570 - 560
So you can see, I cut 22 lbs, and my squat and deadlift stayed about the same, but my bench plummeted. I think it would not have plummeted nearly as badly had the judging not been so strict, but it still would have been down significantly.
The reason I only DLed 555@203 is because I missed 600 on a 3rd.Last edited by breathinglife; 01-22-2013 at 10:02 AM.
637/390tng/615 - belt/wraps, best gym lifts.
600/370/600 - best competition lifts.
575/330/560 - best competition lifts at 181 raw.
"I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize." - 1 Cor 9:27
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01-22-2013, 12:53 PM #10
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01-22-2013, 03:45 PM #12
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01-23-2013, 03:04 AM #13
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