Reply
Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast
Results 1 to 30 of 47
  1. #1
    Singularity is near koatliki's Avatar
    Join Date: Jun 2009
    Location: Houston, Texas, United States
    Age: 43
    Posts: 1,165
    Rep Power: 2598
    koatliki is just really nice. (+1000) koatliki is just really nice. (+1000) koatliki is just really nice. (+1000) koatliki is just really nice. (+1000) koatliki is just really nice. (+1000) koatliki is just really nice. (+1000) koatliki is just really nice. (+1000) koatliki is just really nice. (+1000) koatliki is just really nice. (+1000) koatliki is just really nice. (+1000) koatliki is just really nice. (+1000)
    koatliki is offline

    End of cut / any of you DID not want to bulk?

    I am probably a minority, but I actually do not want to bulk due to the following reasons:

    - great "feedback"/success I receive from girls after I cut down to measly 158lb at 5'11". Girls love my body and I generally receive my compliments and even felt objectified . As newly single, I didn't realize how much girls are digging a slim muscular look (I guess sorta Brad Pitt fight club look), the downside you look like a manlet in non-formfitting clothes. Obviously more vascularity and even had few occasions of being approached by guys asking me how I got like that. (Funny that it happens when I am at my tiniest) My biceps are still relatively big, lifts actually stayed the same all the way from 172lb to 158lb. I can bench press 225lb (two 45lb plates) on a bar 5-6 times.

    - I can do more "extreme exercises" with ease now such as 3 sets of clean dragon flag (10 reps each) or can pull up myself on a bar straight till my waist several times.

    - I got my annual physical, everything perfect and my testosterone level is 720, which seems to be average for 25 year old and I am 32.

    Now I am a little confused: I am so motivated that I want to cut down to 155lb or even 153lb (my lowest ever was 153lb). My abs are defined, but they could get more defined as I still have slight fat on my stomach.

    What would you do? Going close to 150lb at 5'11" seems insane to me yet I get noticed the most when I am tiny. I want to bulk but scared of fattening up On the other hand, since my long-term goal would be 9-10%BF at 170lb, I am considering trying super slow bulk (1lb/month) for entire year. Anyone had success with that? Bulking probably also increases your testosterone level?

    Reps for helpful answers.
    Last edited by koatliki; 01-03-2013 at 03:32 PM.
    Reply With Quote

  2. #2
    Registered User OoChadwickoO's Avatar
    Join Date: Nov 2012
    Posts: 1,240
    Rep Power: 2035
    OoChadwickoO is just really nice. (+1000) OoChadwickoO is just really nice. (+1000) OoChadwickoO is just really nice. (+1000) OoChadwickoO is just really nice. (+1000) OoChadwickoO is just really nice. (+1000) OoChadwickoO is just really nice. (+1000) OoChadwickoO is just really nice. (+1000) OoChadwickoO is just really nice. (+1000) OoChadwickoO is just really nice. (+1000) OoChadwickoO is just really nice. (+1000) OoChadwickoO is just really nice. (+1000)
    OoChadwickoO is offline
    If you never bulked before you must have a very low muscle build, as i can see in your avi. if you like the skinny with abs look stay where your at, if not bulk. bulk for .5lbs a week, not 1 lb a month since you have room for any gains. I dont get why everyone likes that fight club physque, ugly as fuark and just skinny. but no judging, your choice OP!
    Reply With Quote

  3. #3
    Chasing cats since 1967 WonderPug's Avatar
    Join Date: Sep 2010
    Location: New York, New York, United States
    Posts: 52,345
    Rep Power: 323441
    WonderPug has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) WonderPug has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) WonderPug has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) WonderPug has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) WonderPug has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) WonderPug has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) WonderPug has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) WonderPug has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) WonderPug has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) WonderPug has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) WonderPug has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    WonderPug is offline
    If you're satisfied with the way you look now, just maintain.
    Reply With Quote

  4. #4
    Banned trapaholic93's Avatar
    Join Date: Aug 2012
    Location: California, United States
    Age: 30
    Posts: 4,303
    Rep Power: 0
    trapaholic93 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) trapaholic93 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) trapaholic93 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) trapaholic93 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) trapaholic93 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) trapaholic93 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) trapaholic93 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) trapaholic93 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) trapaholic93 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) trapaholic93 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) trapaholic93 is a jewel in the rough. (+500)
    trapaholic93 is offline
    Originally Posted by koatliki View Post
    I am probably a minority, but I actually do not want to bulk due to the following reasons:

    - great "feedback"/success I receive from girls after I cut down to measly 158lb at 5'11". Girls love my body and I generally receive my compliments and even felt objectified . As newly single, I didn't realize how much girls are digging a slim muscular look (I guess sorta Brad Pitt fight club look), the downside you look like a manlet in non-formfitting clothes. Obviously more vascularity and even had few occasions of being approached by guys asking me how I got like that. (Funny that it happens when I am at my tiniest) My biceps are still relatively big, lifts actually stayed the same all the way from 172lb to 158lb. I can bench press 225lb (two 45lb plates) on a bar 5-6 times.

    - I can do more "extreme exercises" with ease now such as 3 sets of clean dragon flag (10 reps each) or can pull up myself on a bar straight till my waist several times.

    - I got my annual physical, everything perfect and my testosterone level is 720, which seems to be average for 25 year old and I am 32.

    Now I am a little confused: I am so motivated that I want to cut down to 155lb or even 153lb (my lowest ever was 153lb). My abs are defined, but they could get more defined as I still have slight fat on my stomach.

    What would you do? Going close to 150lb at 5'11" seems insane to me yet I get noticed the most when I am tiny. I want to bulk but scared of fattening up On the other hand, since my long-term goal would be 9-10%BF at 170lb, I am considering trying super slow bulk (1lb/month) for entire year. Anyone had success with that? Bulking probably also increases your testosterone level?

    Reps for helpful answers.
    bro i'm with you @ "I want to bulk but scared of fattening up" that is the ONE and ONLY reason why I haven't bulked up. i scared of putting fat on my face and not knowing how to get rid of it. i really really want to bulk but i can't.
    Reply With Quote

  5. #5
    Registered User TigerBulk's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2012
    Location: Texas, United States
    Posts: 1,310
    Rep Power: 920
    TigerBulk is a jewel in the rough. (+500) TigerBulk is a jewel in the rough. (+500) TigerBulk is a jewel in the rough. (+500) TigerBulk is a jewel in the rough. (+500) TigerBulk is a jewel in the rough. (+500) TigerBulk is a jewel in the rough. (+500) TigerBulk is a jewel in the rough. (+500) TigerBulk is a jewel in the rough. (+500) TigerBulk is a jewel in the rough. (+500) TigerBulk is a jewel in the rough. (+500) TigerBulk is a jewel in the rough. (+500)
    TigerBulk is offline
    Was in a very similar boat as you last summer (August) (stats: 5'7", 158lbs, 9-10bf%, 34yrs old <-- see avi), but immediately started a bulk to hit 185 lbs by February and cut back down to 9-10% bf for this July. I too want the 170lb body @ 10% bf. I believe I will hit 165 lbs at 10% this July. I will then repeat and shoot for 170lbs @ 10 for that next summer.

    You only live once.

    Do it breh
    brb eating...
    Reply With Quote

  6. #6
    μολὼν λαβέ! DeanoBobino1986's Avatar
    Join Date: Aug 2012
    Age: 37
    Posts: 2,095
    Rep Power: 1564
    DeanoBobino1986 is just really nice. (+1000) DeanoBobino1986 is just really nice. (+1000) DeanoBobino1986 is just really nice. (+1000) DeanoBobino1986 is just really nice. (+1000) DeanoBobino1986 is just really nice. (+1000) DeanoBobino1986 is just really nice. (+1000) DeanoBobino1986 is just really nice. (+1000) DeanoBobino1986 is just really nice. (+1000) DeanoBobino1986 is just really nice. (+1000) DeanoBobino1986 is just really nice. (+1000) DeanoBobino1986 is just really nice. (+1000)
    DeanoBobino1986 is offline
    Personal preference, OP. For me, I was tired of being a skinny **** at 6' 170lbs. No way I ever want to be that small again. Of course, your weight seems to be maintained mostly in your upper body, where my weight is maintained in glutes and thighs. I have an upper body that I've seen on guys at 180 at my height, yet I'm knocking on 200.
    *Negged by Constitution hating *******s crew*
    *Always 5 crew*
    *Semper Fi Crew*
    *Prior USAF Crew*

    Bulking goal 210lbs ~14% BF, April 2013(success as of 18 March)
    Cutting goal 195 ~8-9% BF, Oct 2013
    Reply With Quote

  7. #7
    Registered User TigerBulk's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2012
    Location: Texas, United States
    Posts: 1,310
    Rep Power: 920
    TigerBulk is a jewel in the rough. (+500) TigerBulk is a jewel in the rough. (+500) TigerBulk is a jewel in the rough. (+500) TigerBulk is a jewel in the rough. (+500) TigerBulk is a jewel in the rough. (+500) TigerBulk is a jewel in the rough. (+500) TigerBulk is a jewel in the rough. (+500) TigerBulk is a jewel in the rough. (+500) TigerBulk is a jewel in the rough. (+500) TigerBulk is a jewel in the rough. (+500) TigerBulk is a jewel in the rough. (+500)
    TigerBulk is offline
    Originally Posted by trapaholic93 View Post
    bro i'm with you @ "I want to bulk but scared of fattening up" that is the ONE and ONLY reason why I haven't bulked up. i scared of putting fat on my face and not knowing how to get rid of it. i really really want to bulk but i can't.
    You are 19. If 30+ yr olds can pull this stuff off, you can too. Have no fear breh
    brb eating...
    Reply With Quote

  8. #8
    Registered User k9pit's Avatar
    Join Date: Oct 2010
    Posts: 4,703
    Rep Power: 7034
    k9pit is a name known to all. (+5000) k9pit is a name known to all. (+5000) k9pit is a name known to all. (+5000) k9pit is a name known to all. (+5000) k9pit is a name known to all. (+5000) k9pit is a name known to all. (+5000) k9pit is a name known to all. (+5000) k9pit is a name known to all. (+5000) k9pit is a name known to all. (+5000) k9pit is a name known to all. (+5000) k9pit is a name known to all. (+5000)
    k9pit is offline
    Just maintain for a while. You can always do small lean bulks and mini cuts as you go along.
    Reply With Quote

  9. #9
    Banned trapaholic93's Avatar
    Join Date: Aug 2012
    Location: California, United States
    Age: 30
    Posts: 4,303
    Rep Power: 0
    trapaholic93 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) trapaholic93 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) trapaholic93 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) trapaholic93 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) trapaholic93 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) trapaholic93 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) trapaholic93 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) trapaholic93 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) trapaholic93 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) trapaholic93 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) trapaholic93 is a jewel in the rough. (+500)
    trapaholic93 is offline
    Originally Posted by TigerBulk View Post
    You are 19. If 30+ yr olds can pull this stuff off, you can too. Have no fear breh
    Your right I can do it! I had enough of me saying "i'm scared of putting fat on" I WILL bulk up!
    Reply With Quote

  10. #10
    Registered User rand18m's Avatar
    Join Date: Jul 2010
    Location: Texas, United States
    Age: 61
    Posts: 4,703
    Rep Power: 4634
    rand18m is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) rand18m is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) rand18m is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) rand18m is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) rand18m is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) rand18m is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) rand18m is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) rand18m is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) rand18m is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) rand18m is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) rand18m is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500)
    rand18m is offline
    Originally Posted by koatliki View Post
    I am probably a minority, but I actually do not want to bulk due to the following reasons:

    - great "feedback"/success I receive from girls after I cut down to measly 158lb at 5'11". Girls love my body and I generally receive my compliments and even felt objectified . As newly single, I didn't realize how much girls are digging a slim muscular look (I guess sorta Brad Pitt fight club look), the downside you look like a manlet in non-formfitting clothes. Obviously more vascularity and even had few occasions of being approached by guys asking me how I got like that. (Funny that it happens when I am at my tiniest) My biceps are still relatively big, lifts actually stayed the same all the way from 172lb to 158lb. I can bench press 225lb (two 45lb plates) on a bar 5-6 times.

    - I can do more "extreme exercises" with ease now such as 3 sets of clean dragon flag (10 reps each) or can pull up myself on a bar straight till my waist several times.

    - I got my annual physical, everything perfect and my testosterone level is 720, which seems to be average for 25 year old and I am 32.

    Now I am a little confused: I am so motivated that I want to cut down to 155lb or even 153lb (my lowest ever was 153lb). My abs are defined, but they could get more defined as I still have slight fat on my stomach.

    What would you do? Going close to 150lb at 5'11" seems insane to me yet I get noticed the most when I am tiny. I want to bulk but scared of fattening up On the other hand, since my long-term goal would be 9-10%BF at 170lb, I am considering trying super slow bulk (1lb/month) for entire year. Anyone had success with that? Bulking probably also increases your testosterone level?

    Reps for helpful answers.
    If you're newly single and getting laid more, well then do I really have to answer that question??

    BUT, if you were 170 and same low BF how much better would the response be??? Hummm? Well you won't know until you get there. And considering you sound like someone that really wants to get there, I bet that's what you end up doing! (And I bet you still do just fine with the babes, assuming they're babes)!!
    Reply With Quote

  11. #11
    Orthodox Christian Xhale12's Avatar
    Join Date: Jun 2008
    Location: United States
    Posts: 2,093
    Rep Power: 2590
    Xhale12 is just really nice. (+1000) Xhale12 is just really nice. (+1000) Xhale12 is just really nice. (+1000) Xhale12 is just really nice. (+1000) Xhale12 is just really nice. (+1000) Xhale12 is just really nice. (+1000) Xhale12 is just really nice. (+1000) Xhale12 is just really nice. (+1000) Xhale12 is just really nice. (+1000) Xhale12 is just really nice. (+1000) Xhale12 is just really nice. (+1000)
    Xhale12 is offline
    Typically in a sentence like that you'll want to emphasize the "not" instead of the "did".
    I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to do this I keep on doing. (Romans 7:15,17-19)

    *90 hour workweek crew*
    Reply With Quote

  12. #12
    Singularity is near koatliki's Avatar
    Join Date: Jun 2009
    Location: Houston, Texas, United States
    Age: 43
    Posts: 1,165
    Rep Power: 2598
    koatliki is just really nice. (+1000) koatliki is just really nice. (+1000) koatliki is just really nice. (+1000) koatliki is just really nice. (+1000) koatliki is just really nice. (+1000) koatliki is just really nice. (+1000) koatliki is just really nice. (+1000) koatliki is just really nice. (+1000) koatliki is just really nice. (+1000) koatliki is just really nice. (+1000) koatliki is just really nice. (+1000)
    koatliki is offline
    Originally Posted by OoChadwickoO View Post
    If you never bulked before you must have a very low muscle build, as i can see in your avi. if you like the skinny with abs look stay where your at, if not bulk. bulk for .5lbs a week, not 1 lb a month since you have room for any gains. I dont get why everyone likes that fight club physque, ugly as fuark and just skinny. but no judging, your choice OP!
    I bulked twice in the past. When I started lifting and went down to 153lb from 187 in one swoop I didn't look like anything in my avi

    Originally Posted by trapaholic93 View Post
    bro i'm with you @ "I want to bulk but scared of fattening up" that is the ONE and ONLY reason why I haven't bulked up. i scared of putting fat on my face and not knowing how to get rid of it. i really really want to bulk but i can't.
    Well... You're also 13lb heavier than my ex-gf (who was fit) and was of your height, and you're 19 FFS, so I suggest you bulk like a monster

    Originally Posted by rand18m View Post
    If you're newly single and getting laid more, well then do I really have to answer that question??

    BUT, if you were 170 and same low BF how much better would the response be??? Hummm? Well you won't know until you get there. And considering you sound like someone that really wants to get there, I bet that's what you end up doing! (And I bet you still do just fine with the babes, assuming they're babes)!!
    Half are babes half are not, always the case

    Thanks for the responses everyone else. I think I am going to lose couple pounds, make some pics and then go on bulk before summer is here I have 3 months to bulk and then 2 months to cut before end of May.

    Reps to everyone else on recharge.
    Reply With Quote

  13. #13
    wants to be called Dan. hcoyle545's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2010
    Location: United Kingdom (Great Britain)
    Posts: 3,910
    Rep Power: 4133
    hcoyle545 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) hcoyle545 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) hcoyle545 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) hcoyle545 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) hcoyle545 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) hcoyle545 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) hcoyle545 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) hcoyle545 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) hcoyle545 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) hcoyle545 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) hcoyle545 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500)
    hcoyle545 is offline
    Originally Posted by WonderPug View Post
    If you're satisfied with the way you look now, just maintain.
    this. though I know I personally will likely never be satisfied with the way I look at any stage, body dysmorphia of peace.

    just do a very small surplus like you mentioned, as low as maybe 100-200 a week if you're happy how you look now. that way your progress will come slowly but it will take you months before you notice any real fat gain.
    BJJ / Greyskull LP log

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=166276471&p=1337135191&posted=1#post1337135191
    Reply With Quote

  14. #14
    Archwizard kanis999's Avatar
    Join Date: Jun 2011
    Location: Reston, Virginia, United States
    Age: 35
    Posts: 9,169
    Rep Power: 22891
    kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000)
    kanis999 is offline
    Believe it or not, it IS possible to bulk up without ever getting fat. It's like magic really. You reach a certain body fat % and you go on a short cut again. Voila, you are now 5 lbs heavier at the same body fat %.

    But I must say, OoChadwickoO thinks you have very little muscle, but from a girl's perspective you have tons of muscle. If you had any more muscle, my wife would probably think you had too much.
    Reply With Quote

  15. #15
    Singularity is near koatliki's Avatar
    Join Date: Jun 2009
    Location: Houston, Texas, United States
    Age: 43
    Posts: 1,165
    Rep Power: 2598
    koatliki is just really nice. (+1000) koatliki is just really nice. (+1000) koatliki is just really nice. (+1000) koatliki is just really nice. (+1000) koatliki is just really nice. (+1000) koatliki is just really nice. (+1000) koatliki is just really nice. (+1000) koatliki is just really nice. (+1000) koatliki is just really nice. (+1000) koatliki is just really nice. (+1000) koatliki is just really nice. (+1000)
    koatliki is offline
    Originally Posted by kanis999 View Post
    Believe it or not, it IS possible to bulk up without ever getting fat. It's like magic really. You reach a certain body fat % and you go on a short cut again. Voila, you are now 5 lbs heavier at the same body fat %.

    But I must say, OoChadwickoO thinks you have very little muscle, but from a girl's perspective you have tons of muscle. If you had any more muscle, my wife would probably think you had too much.
    Exactly. I already got that from couple of girls: "You look good as you are now and you definitely shouldn't get any bigger". Consistent feedback like that was what affected my normal "let's cut and bulk forever" mentality. I don't think girls are into mountains of muscles, but I guess 170lb at 10% BF at 5'11" would still not even be close to being big.
    Reply With Quote

  16. #16
    Registered User darkcloudcover's Avatar
    Join Date: May 2011
    Age: 38
    Posts: 254
    Rep Power: 365
    darkcloudcover will become famous soon enough. (+50) darkcloudcover will become famous soon enough. (+50) darkcloudcover will become famous soon enough. (+50) darkcloudcover will become famous soon enough. (+50) darkcloudcover will become famous soon enough. (+50) darkcloudcover will become famous soon enough. (+50) darkcloudcover will become famous soon enough. (+50) darkcloudcover will become famous soon enough. (+50) darkcloudcover will become famous soon enough. (+50) darkcloudcover will become famous soon enough. (+50) darkcloudcover will become famous soon enough. (+50)
    darkcloudcover is offline
    I don't like to bulk for the simple reason that I'll get fat. Lean gaining here.
    Reply With Quote

  17. #17
    Registered User ParsonBrown's Avatar
    Join Date: Sep 2010
    Posts: 1,837
    Rep Power: 2031
    ParsonBrown is just really nice. (+1000) ParsonBrown is just really nice. (+1000) ParsonBrown is just really nice. (+1000) ParsonBrown is just really nice. (+1000) ParsonBrown is just really nice. (+1000) ParsonBrown is just really nice. (+1000) ParsonBrown is just really nice. (+1000) ParsonBrown is just really nice. (+1000) ParsonBrown is just really nice. (+1000) ParsonBrown is just really nice. (+1000) ParsonBrown is just really nice. (+1000)
    ParsonBrown is offline
    Originally Posted by koatliki View Post
    I don't think girls are into mountains of muscles, but I guess 170lb at 10% BF at 5'11" would still not even be close to being big.
    @ 30+ it's probably time to move on to women instead of girls. You may find women want more of a man than a boy ...
    *Unaesthetic Crew* Disregard V-Taper, Acquire PRs Thread

    "I think most of us would pay good money to be able to fit a whole jar of the greatest thing known to man into our macros on a daily basis." - MikeK46
    Reply With Quote

  18. #18
    Archwizard kanis999's Avatar
    Join Date: Jun 2011
    Location: Reston, Virginia, United States
    Age: 35
    Posts: 9,169
    Rep Power: 22891
    kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000)
    kanis999 is offline
    Originally Posted by darkcloudcover View Post
    I don't like to bulk for the simple reason that I'll get fat. Lean gaining here.
    I consider lean gaining a bulk still. Bulk = putting on weight of any kind. Semantics, I know.

    Originally Posted by ParsonBrown View Post
    @ 30+ it's probably time to move on to women instead of girls. You may find women want more of a man than a boy ...
    I have 5 sisters in their 30s, and they all think I shouldn't get any more muscular. I'm not going to listen, of course. Also, my wife thinks Frank Zane has waaay too much muscle, and he was, what, 190 lbs? She's only 23 though, so she would still be considered more of a girl.
    Reply With Quote

  19. #19
    Kfme psychodiver9's Avatar
    Join Date: Jul 2010
    Location: Tallahassee, Florida, United States
    Posts: 33,444
    Rep Power: 55890
    psychodiver9 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) psychodiver9 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) psychodiver9 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) psychodiver9 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) psychodiver9 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) psychodiver9 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) psychodiver9 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) psychodiver9 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) psychodiver9 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) psychodiver9 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) psychodiver9 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000)
    psychodiver9 is offline
    Originally Posted by darkcloudcover View Post
    I don't like to bulk for the simple reason that I'll get fat. Lean gaining here.
    So you're bulking but not bulking?
    PL Log
    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=154662503

    BTK!

    First Meet 8/25/13 281/264/418 963 @198

    5/24/14 352.5/286/462.5 1101 @242
    Reply With Quote

  20. #20
    Registered User darkcloudcover's Avatar
    Join Date: May 2011
    Age: 38
    Posts: 254
    Rep Power: 365
    darkcloudcover will become famous soon enough. (+50) darkcloudcover will become famous soon enough. (+50) darkcloudcover will become famous soon enough. (+50) darkcloudcover will become famous soon enough. (+50) darkcloudcover will become famous soon enough. (+50) darkcloudcover will become famous soon enough. (+50) darkcloudcover will become famous soon enough. (+50) darkcloudcover will become famous soon enough. (+50) darkcloudcover will become famous soon enough. (+50) darkcloudcover will become famous soon enough. (+50) darkcloudcover will become famous soon enough. (+50)
    darkcloudcover is offline
    Originally Posted by psychodiver9 View Post
    So you're bulking but not bulking?
    Are you trying to make fun of my post? (and my posts in general?)

    I'm sure you understood the content of this post, but your goal here is to be rude, like the rest of your replies. I'm impressed how a 31 year old man still behaves the way you do.

    When a person like you, is constantly being offensive and making fun of others' posts and threads without being banned, makes fun of someone like me whose only goal is to learn and share informative ideas with others, is the moment when I stop posting in this forum.

    There are some really good members here who have a lot of knowledge and post their answers in a nice and polite way to help the users achieve their goals, but others are just the opposite; you are one.

    I reported your offensive posts against me, but there are also plenty against other people. I think that the moderators here should ban you, because you are not a good member and not doing any good for the forum.
    Reply With Quote

  21. #21
    Singularity is near koatliki's Avatar
    Join Date: Jun 2009
    Location: Houston, Texas, United States
    Age: 43
    Posts: 1,165
    Rep Power: 2598
    koatliki is just really nice. (+1000) koatliki is just really nice. (+1000) koatliki is just really nice. (+1000) koatliki is just really nice. (+1000) koatliki is just really nice. (+1000) koatliki is just really nice. (+1000) koatliki is just really nice. (+1000) koatliki is just really nice. (+1000) koatliki is just really nice. (+1000) koatliki is just really nice. (+1000) koatliki is just really nice. (+1000)
    koatliki is offline
    Originally Posted by ParsonBrown View Post
    @ 30+ it's probably time to move on to women instead of girls. You may find women want more of a man than a boy ...
    Actually I pretty much call any female below 40 a girl. Either way I like younger models And I pretty much hear what kanis999 said from most girls 22-33 that I dealt with.
    Reply With Quote

  22. #22
    Kfme psychodiver9's Avatar
    Join Date: Jul 2010
    Location: Tallahassee, Florida, United States
    Posts: 33,444
    Rep Power: 55890
    psychodiver9 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) psychodiver9 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) psychodiver9 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) psychodiver9 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) psychodiver9 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) psychodiver9 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) psychodiver9 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) psychodiver9 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) psychodiver9 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) psychodiver9 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) psychodiver9 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000)
    psychodiver9 is offline
    Originally Posted by darkcloudcover View Post
    Are you trying to make fun of my post? (and my posts in general?)

    I'm sure you understood the content of this post, but your goal here is to be rude, like the rest of your replies. I'm impressed how a 31 year old man still behaves the way you do.

    When a person like you, is constantly being offensive and making fun of others' posts and threads without being banned, makes fun of someone like me whose only goal is to learn and share informative ideas with others, is the moment when I stop posting in this forum.

    There are some really good members here who have a lot of knowledge and post their answers in a nice and polite way to help the users achieve their goals, but others are just the opposite; you are one.

    I reported your offensive posts against me, but there are also plenty against other people. I think that the moderators here should ban you, because you are not a good member and not doing any good for the forum.
    Offensive? Lol. You said you won't bulk but you will "lean gain". Bulking is the act of eating in a surplus to gain weight. Your post was derogatory towards the term "bulking" when you clearly don't understand what it means
    PL Log
    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=154662503

    BTK!

    First Meet 8/25/13 281/264/418 963 @198

    5/24/14 352.5/286/462.5 1101 @242
    Reply With Quote

  23. #23
    Registered User ParsonBrown's Avatar
    Join Date: Sep 2010
    Posts: 1,837
    Rep Power: 2031
    ParsonBrown is just really nice. (+1000) ParsonBrown is just really nice. (+1000) ParsonBrown is just really nice. (+1000) ParsonBrown is just really nice. (+1000) ParsonBrown is just really nice. (+1000) ParsonBrown is just really nice. (+1000) ParsonBrown is just really nice. (+1000) ParsonBrown is just really nice. (+1000) ParsonBrown is just really nice. (+1000) ParsonBrown is just really nice. (+1000) ParsonBrown is just really nice. (+1000)
    ParsonBrown is offline
    Originally Posted by koatliki View Post
    Actually I pretty much call any female below 40 a girl. Either way I like younger models And I pretty much hear what kanis999 said from most girls 22-33 that I dealt with.
    I gotcha....I'm the same way - any male under 200 lbs is a boy

    My wife says the same as you about the models...when she married me she got a younger model so she could break me in proper
    *Unaesthetic Crew* Disregard V-Taper, Acquire PRs Thread

    "I think most of us would pay good money to be able to fit a whole jar of the greatest thing known to man into our macros on a daily basis." - MikeK46
    Reply With Quote

  24. #24
    Archwizard kanis999's Avatar
    Join Date: Jun 2011
    Location: Reston, Virginia, United States
    Age: 35
    Posts: 9,169
    Rep Power: 22891
    kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000)
    kanis999 is offline
    Originally Posted by ParsonBrown View Post
    I gotcha....I'm the same way - any male under 200 lbs is a boy

    My wife says the same as you about the models...when she married me she got a younger model so she could break me in proper
    Lol but your signature clearly implies you aren't that interested in aesthetics. Just different schools of thought.
    Reply With Quote

  25. #25
    Iron Born StephSkywalker's Avatar
    Join Date: May 2011
    Location: Chicago, Illinois, United States
    Posts: 1,602
    Rep Power: 2438
    StephSkywalker is just really nice. (+1000) StephSkywalker is just really nice. (+1000) StephSkywalker is just really nice. (+1000) StephSkywalker is just really nice. (+1000) StephSkywalker is just really nice. (+1000) StephSkywalker is just really nice. (+1000) StephSkywalker is just really nice. (+1000) StephSkywalker is just really nice. (+1000) StephSkywalker is just really nice. (+1000) StephSkywalker is just really nice. (+1000) StephSkywalker is just really nice. (+1000)
    StephSkywalker is offline
    I say bulk.. You won't get "fat" in the tradtional sense because you lift.. You will put on weight, but the weight will look different on you in comparison to someone who puts on 20 lbs just sitting on the couch...
    ~ What is Dead will Never Die Crew

    ~Add me as a friend on MyFitnessPal & Instagram: StephSkywalker

    I also have a Log. Check it out

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=152157923

    Gym Maxes - 420 Squat/300 Bench/465 Deadlift = 1,185 Total
    Reply With Quote

  26. #26
    Registered User ParsonBrown's Avatar
    Join Date: Sep 2010
    Posts: 1,837
    Rep Power: 2031
    ParsonBrown is just really nice. (+1000) ParsonBrown is just really nice. (+1000) ParsonBrown is just really nice. (+1000) ParsonBrown is just really nice. (+1000) ParsonBrown is just really nice. (+1000) ParsonBrown is just really nice. (+1000) ParsonBrown is just really nice. (+1000) ParsonBrown is just really nice. (+1000) ParsonBrown is just really nice. (+1000) ParsonBrown is just really nice. (+1000) ParsonBrown is just really nice. (+1000)
    ParsonBrown is offline
    Originally Posted by kanis999 View Post
    Lol but your signature clearly implies you aren't that interested in aesthetics. Just different schools of thought.
    I don't want to be a fat slob either , but I personally don't find abs very appealing. Actually I don't feel good physically below about 190. But you're right - different stokes for different folks. I couldn't afford the shave I would need if I had abs to show off LOL!
    *Unaesthetic Crew* Disregard V-Taper, Acquire PRs Thread

    "I think most of us would pay good money to be able to fit a whole jar of the greatest thing known to man into our macros on a daily basis." - MikeK46
    Reply With Quote

  27. #27
    Archwizard kanis999's Avatar
    Join Date: Jun 2011
    Location: Reston, Virginia, United States
    Age: 35
    Posts: 9,169
    Rep Power: 22891
    kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000)
    kanis999 is offline
    Originally Posted by ParsonBrown View Post
    I don't want to be a fat slob either , but I personally don't find abs very appealing. Actually I don't feel good physically below about 190. But you're right - different stokes for different folks. I couldn't afford the shave I would need if I had abs to show off LOL!
    I understand. You being below 190 at 6' would be like me being below 150, which I'm totally not comfortable with. And f@#$ shaving, big pain in the ass.
    Reply With Quote

  28. #28
    Will lift for food. HunterCML's Avatar
    Join Date: Mar 2011
    Posts: 7,868
    Rep Power: 25220
    HunterCML has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) HunterCML has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) HunterCML has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) HunterCML has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) HunterCML has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) HunterCML has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) HunterCML has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) HunterCML has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) HunterCML has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) HunterCML has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) HunterCML has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000)
    HunterCML is offline
    5'11" at 158lbs.....

    Have you ever bulked properly? A 5'11" frame should be relatively lean at 180lbs after a few proper bulk/cut cycles and proper diet/lifting routine.

    When I was in the 150s I was emaciated. Two years later and I'm fairly lean at 200lbs (32" jeans and vascular). I would never want to be 150s again ever, and I would venture to say with my LBM it wouldn't be possible.

    Bulk to 200lbs. TBH, it's the guys afraid of putting on fat that never see their potential. A buddy of mine plays football and is your height. He's lean as hell at 205lbs and wants to be 240s and lean by the end of his senior year of college. This is probably impossible without some kind of drugs, but he's already way ahead of the game at 19 years old.
    IIFYM - not even once.

    www.AlanAragon.com
    Reply With Quote

  29. #29
    Registered User texicus's Avatar
    Join Date: May 2011
    Location: Texas, United States
    Posts: 2,275
    Rep Power: 2751
    texicus is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) texicus is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) texicus is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) texicus is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) texicus is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) texicus is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) texicus is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) texicus is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) texicus is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) texicus is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) texicus is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500)
    texicus is offline
    Originally Posted by TigerBulk View Post
    Was in a very similar boat as you last summer (August) (stats: 5'7", 158lbs, 9-10bf%, 34yrs old <-- see avi), but immediately started a bulk to hit 185 lbs by February and cut back down to 9-10% bf for this July. I too want the 170lb body @ 10% bf. I believe I will hit 165 lbs at 10% this July. I will then repeat and shoot for 170lbs @ 10 for that next summer.

    You only live once.

    Do it breh
    ITT a fukken swoll 34 year old fellow texan tells me to #yolo and keep bulking.

    i'm okay with this.
    Johns Hopkins '16
    Reply With Quote

  30. #30
    Archwizard kanis999's Avatar
    Join Date: Jun 2011
    Location: Reston, Virginia, United States
    Age: 35
    Posts: 9,169
    Rep Power: 22891
    kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) kanis999 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000)
    kanis999 is offline
    Originally Posted by HunterCML View Post
    5'11" at 158lbs.....

    Have you ever bulked properly? A 5'11" frame should be relatively lean at 180lbs after a few proper bulk/cut cycles and proper diet/lifting routine.

    When I was in the 150s I was emaciated. Two years later and I'm fairly lean at 200lbs (32" jeans and vascular). I would never want to be 150s again ever, and I would venture to say with my LBM it wouldn't be possible.

    Bulk to 200lbs. TBH, it's the guys afraid of putting on fat that never see their potential. A buddy of mine plays football and is your height. He's lean as hell at 205lbs and wants to be 240s and lean by the end of his senior year of college. This is probably impossible without some kind of drugs, but he's already way ahead of the game at 19 years old.
    You gotta factor in about 10 lbs per inch of height difference. So 150s for you would be like 130 for him, and 110 for me. But I do agree with you. Some fat gain is essential to reach your potential. But you never have to get so fat that you don't look like a bodybuilder any more. 15% is a good ceiling. Most people with a decent base will still have a couple lines on the stomach and waists under 33 inches.
    Reply With Quote

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts