27 Dead in Newton, Conn. Shooting

[MiscDemeanor]

What a sick bastard. Can't imagine how a parent deals with these kinds of things

[AdamWW]

What a sick bastard. Can't imagine how a parent deals with these kinds of things

Having had my brother pass away several years back at age 22... I can tell you it's worse than death or torture for them.

The fact that it was senseless and incomprehensible only makes it more terrifying.

[StackingPlates]

Horrible, just horrible. I can't help but think there will be more of these tragedies in the next week or so as we approach the 21st with all the crazies who believe the world will be ending anyway...

[Linzzz]

What a sick bastard. Can't imagine how a parent deals with these kinds of things

i couldn't imagine. faith that they're in a better place? i dunno... picture below is heart-wrenching

[PhiSig2298]

Will be homeschooling my boys & their teacher always packs heat.


Thoughts & prayers to the ones who lost their lives, their families & those who had to witness this tragedy.. no parent should ever bury their child

[midcoastking33]

will bet money that he was a 4channer or redditor

[L The Pirate]

no parent should ever bury their child

this X1000000000000

[Milone79]

update: he's not actually a father of a child, but his mother was a teacher at the school. body was found at his home, it seems it may be his mother

so he killed his own mother too??? yep Hell does not even seem fitting for this bastard....he should die a thousand deaths....each more painful than the last!!!

[miacanesfan25]

jason, gun control will not deter these events. unfortunately, this is the way the world is now. there are sick, twisted people out there that just don't know how to deal. creating an underground demand for weaponry will create 10fold more problems.

Completely agree.

I don't think it is ****ed up at all. Someone else already raised that topic. This is what guns do. They kill. That is why we make them. That is why we own them. That is the purpose of this tool. Period..

I'm trying to restrain myself, but I can't. I think you're delusional about this. Guns don't kill people!! People kill people. We own them to protect ourselves and feed our families. That is the purpose of them. Period. If an intruder came into my home, he would be dead by me pulling the trigger. If he didn't intrude, he'd be alive. The killer made the conscious choice to kill, not the gun.

[JasonDB]

Horrible, just horrible. I can't help but think there will be more of these tragedies in the next week or so as we approach the 21st with all the crazies who believe the world will be ending anyway...

I really hope you are wrong, but fear that you are right.

I'm trying to restrain myself, but I can't. I think you're delusional about this. Guns don't kill people!! People kill people. We own them to protect ourselves and feed our families. That is the purpose of them. Period. If an intruder came into my home, he would be dead by me pulling the trigger. If he didn't intrude, he'd be alive.

And I think you are delusional on this. Countries without guns have massively lower murder rates. That isn't even subject to debate. When someone goes psycho they rarely rack up a high body count either.

There is a higher chance, stastically, that the same criminal you are talking about will break into your home when you are not home and steal your gun than the chance that he will do so when you are home and you will use your gun on him. There is a higher probability that you will arm a criminal with your gun than you will kill one with it.

[AdamWW]

I really hope you are wrong, but fear that you are right.

Not to add another tangent in here, but I do see fanaticism around religious extremes and superstitions playing a huge part in the sufferings of the world. There is much good that can come from faith and beliefs, but there are also terrible wrongs when extremes fester in the minds of wicked men.

People cling to fears of punishment for their wrong-doings and try to right them by acting out on fellow human beings. It's truly amazing that in this day and age we can still be such barbarians.

[ko300zx]

Money. Are you willing to pay a few hundred bucks per year on top of your current taxes? Recently in the county I live in, the paper ran an article about how it cost a total of $2.7 million per year to cover 33 school resource officers with the Sheriff’s Office, 22 officers with the Police Department. Where does that money come from? The School District used to pay the whole thing, but when the budget was slashed, people freaked out about not having them in the schools and the public demanded the local elected leaders step up and $1.7 million was funded by the Sheriff's budge, and the 2 cities in which the schools are located paid the other $1 million. All tax-payer money.

I think most people with children wouldn't think twice about saying yes it if offered some level of protection for their kids.

[JasonDB]

Not to add another tangent in here, but I do see fanaticism around religious extremes and superstitions playing a huge part in the sufferings of the world. There is much good that can come from faith and beliefs, but there are also terrible wrongs when extremes fester in the minds of wicked men.

People cling to fears of punishment for their wrong-doings and try to right them by acting out on fellow human beings. It's truly amazing that in this day and age we can still be such barbarians.

I happen to agree there. Now I am an agnostic not some militant athiest and I think that if a person's faith gives them comfort and meaning in life and they don't use it as a reason to harm anyone I don't see any problem with it. I see no problem with it being a protected right for people to practice their religious faiths. However extremism and fanaticism are problems and as you said when they fester in the minds of the already mentally ill or damaged it can lead to terrible things.

I am worried that we will see more of than in the coming weeks than we care to. Sigh.

[StackingPlates]

I think most people with children wouldn't think twice about saying yes it if offered some level of protection for their kids.

True, but it would be quite a feat to be able to only tax those with children in school otherwise those with no kids would also be expected to cover the extra financial burden...

[texicus]

A girl that lives in the same floor as me on my dorm is from New Haven, CT. One of her childhood friend's younger siblings was attending this school. no idea on if the sibling is ok or not b/c her friend is not answering her phone...

fuk fuk fukf ukf FUK what kind of sick bastard does this bullsht

[AdamWW]

I happen to agree there. Now I am an agnostic not some militant athiest and I think that if a person's faith gives them comfort and meaning in life and they don't use it as a reason to harm anyone I don't see any problem with it. I see no problem with it being a protected right for people to practice their religious faiths. However extremism and fanaticism are problems and as you said when they fester in the minds of the already mentally ill or damaged it can lead to terrible things.

I am worried that we will see more of than in the coming weeks than we care to. Sigh.

I am very similar in beliefs.

My life experiences have challenged my ability to fully acknowledge - on a definite level - the existence of a higher being, but at the same time I cannot ignore the possibility of it simply because there is no proof to the contrary. Thus, I must accept that it is possible - both for the lack of proof otherwise and because I do find certain parallels between my own observations and 'spiritual' experiences. One thing I do challenge is the accuracy of organized religion and the hypocracy and inconsistencies that exist between almost all established faiths. That being said, I believe any faith that does not allow for the peaceful coexistence with our beliefs to be without justifiable cause... hense my comment on the extremist base.

Another tangent, I know... but even though I cannot - in good faith (punn intended) - assign myself to a particular line of beliefs (because I find holes in ALL of them), a big part of me wants to belief in justice beyond what earthly means can provide. It gives comfort in a way to think those children are in a 'better place' and that the killer is answering for his wrong-doings.

[MiscDemeanor]

will bet money that he was a 4channer or redditor

He's a sick 24 yr old kunt

[AdamWW]

He's a sick 24 yr old kunt

An understatement to be sure. There are truly no combination of words that can do this person justice.

He is, simply, without purpose in this universe... an utter waste of oxygen.

I hope he is cremated so no worms have to go through the indignity of eating him.

[Linzzz]

I think most people with children wouldn't think twice about saying yes it if offered some level of protection for their kids.

everytime i go to an airport, I see 20+ TSA agents standing around, with 80%+ of them twiddling their thumbs.

[StephSkywalker]

I been seriously upset all day since I've heard this.. This is deplorable.. Those kids did not deserve this

[illiniStrive]

Absolutely terrible and it definitely ruined my day as well


And it's only compounded by the absolutely deplorable journalism. ******** groups calling for Ryan Lanza's (NOT the killer) death have already been created and his face is plastered on major television and online reporting sources. His life is basically donezo.

[ko300zx]

My girlfriend is going to be a kindergarden teacher and I've been sick to my stomach all day. There are some things I can't comprehend and the thought that someone could ever do these kinds of things is at the top of the list.

[gymjunki3]

I know he killed his father and shot his mother but is his mother dead?

Man my heart goes out to the families, i saw this father on tv crying and describing what his drive to the school was like from work.

[SimonThePieman]

With all of the school shootings over the years (and this year alone), why is there not an armed officer in every single school in the country to protect children?

great idea.

But just incase one of the armed officers goes crazy, why don't we make sure we hire another armed officer to keep an eye on that armed officer

[SumDumGoi]

jason, gun control will not deter these events. unfortunately, this is the way the world is now. there are sick, twisted people out there that just don't know how to deal. creating an underground demand for weaponry will create 10fold more problems.

If you add together the number of gun deaths from the 23 wealthiest countries the United States accounts for 80% of all gun deaths. That either means that Americans are either more evil than other nations on this planet or that there problem with gun control in this country. Which is it?

[snorkelman]

Obama promises action to prevent such tragedies again
The Associated Press


Obama promised action to prevent such tragedies again but did not say what that would be.

[AdamWW]

If you add together the number of gun deaths from the 23 wealthiest countries the United States accounts for 80% of all gun deaths. That either means that Americans are either more evil than other nations on this planet or that there problem with gun control in this country. Which is it?

What about Mexico? They technically have "stricter" gun laws than the US but significantly higher gun-related crime rates.

Or Czech Republic: much looser gun laws but much lower gun-related crimes.

[StephSkywalker]

Most people know my stance as far as guns but let's not make this political.. Use this time to mourn for the family and friends of the departed.. Most of these kids were between the ages of 5-10 years old.. No time to actually experience life

[JasonDB]

What about Mexico? They technically have "stricter" gun laws than the US but significantly higher gun-related crime rates.

Or Czech Republic: much looser gun laws but much lower gun-related crimes.

I am not a proponent of gun control myself. I'm a proponent of closing down the factories that make them, collecting them and melting them all down for scrap metal. Gun control doesn't work because criminals can just steal them from people who have them legally.

[The Solution]

Looks like a perfectly normal and sane man. Scary.

Thats the crazy thing.
Most kids that look very normal and sane are the ones that are the craziest. Also think about this.. Social interaction of the individual. he was known as a very quiet individual. Think about most home schooled kids who are very proper with manners and etiquette that are around their parents, but when they go out and about and have no interaction they are true loners in the real world and really dont have any social outlets.

Most kids who appear to be safe, and sane are actually the oppositie (from what i have learned in Abnormal Psychology while in college) many trials and studies were done on kids who went to public schools vs those who are home schooled and how they grow up and their jobs. The kids who were home schooled did not really excel in public speaking or public jobs that had them engaging in conversation showing that if they were ludicrous in their head, nobody would really know it but themselves (the ones who did the shooting or those who did crazy things out of no where) because they have no outlets, they have no social networking or no social friends but themselves or whatever their own hobbies are.

So in essence those innocent looking people could be the next jeffrey dahmer (spelling but the serial killer).

Just the world we live in.