Hey guys just wanted to get everyone's opinion on how results from machines differ from results from using the same exercises using free weights.
I'm just starting out and have most of my routine based around machines.
Russ
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Thread: Machines vs. Free Weights
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12-10-2012, 11:54 AM #1
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Are you trolling? There is no "free weight vs machines" because machines are garbage. The only people that benifit from using machines are advanced bodybuilders to target very specific muscles or other very specific reasons. For general strength & muscle development you should ONLY be doing free weights.
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12-10-2012, 12:23 PM #13No brain, no gain.
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12-10-2012, 12:24 PM #14
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Free weight bench press is a machine? No. All machines may not look the same but they are all equally worthless to novice lifters.
Im not trolling, Im giving him REAL advice. Your also a buck 40 giving lifting advice, pls go.
OP Im here telling you to stay away from machines because I dont want you to fail/waste your time. Find a program like starting strength and stick to it + eat a ton of food. Also dont worry about stuff like biceps right now, you need general strength & mass before you can sculpt anything.My Training Log: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=149612633
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this is ridiculous. so you are saying you would rather have a noob try very bad form trying to do lat pull down machine rather than using pull ups? <<<<See what I did there?
If somebody doesnt know how to do an excercise correctly they learn how to do it, not sub things in. Thats a poor training mentality. As for the hurt back using a leg press, when I said "novice lifters" I obvioulsy was not refering to special needs populations such as elderly & injured. I also think people should have a general level of mobility before atempting the barbell movements.My Training Log: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=149612633
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^ Id personally go with free weights to start with then use machines later. Now days i'll add in 3-4 few weeks at a gym to target a certain muscle and add in one or two machines into my workout but rest is freeweights at home.
I enjoyed doing madcows 5x5 routine over Starting Strength.Goal - keep lifting - get bigger - get stronger - result
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12-11-2012, 11:18 AM #27
Machine vs Freeweights? You just have to follow your heart.
No, but seriously....
-Freeweights allow you to engage your muscles, develop your balance, and overall coordination to a better degree while the muscles are under tension. WIN
-Most machines allow you to forgo the balance and coordination efforts, but focus on channeling your energy into the muscles under tension. WIN
-However, once you've developed your balance and coordination with freeweights (form becomes second nature) you can devote more efforts into channeling your energy into the muscles under tension with freeweights (mind muscle connection). WIN
It's usually more important for a beginner to develop their balance and overall coordination while muscles are under tension.
Most people with experience will use a mix of both over time.
Over time, you may find yourself able to gain overall strength and lower body muscular development from a particular move like squats, but able to focus/channel more energy into a specific muscle group like quads using a leg press.
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Machines are not necessarily worthless. If a novice lifter has just completed bench press, incline, barbell rows, chin ups and wants to work their rear delts on the machine rather than using free weights, are they wrong? You need to take it easy with the absolutist attitude, and this is coming from someone who hardly uses machines.
Im not trolling, Im giving him REAL advice. Your also a buck 40 giving lifting advice, pls go
It doesn't matter what weight someone is, if their advise is wrong, it's still wrong.
OP Im here telling you to stay away from machines because I dont want you to fail/waste your time. Find a program like starting strength and stick to it + eat a ton of food. Also dont worry about stuff like biceps right now, you need general strength & mass before you can sculpt anything.
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12-11-2012, 07:51 PM #30
You can build up good amounts of perfectly legit strength with some machines. Actually, most. But some, I think, are particularly useful that way: the cable kinds mostly.
So some guys get their panties in a bunch, because some other guys out there end up big and strong, with the aid of things like the cable row and lat pulldown.
Lemme see... yep, sky's also blue.
Personally, I use mostly free weights. But I have absolutely no problem "humbling myself" (lol) and hopping on some evil machine for teh gainz. If it works, keep doing it. If not, find another way.
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