I was contrasting how ridiculous it is that op thinks that a god in the sky is giving him minor clues to the way he is supposed to be living life when there is millions of people dying of starvation in other parts of the world and how brutal life is in general there is no god and if there is he doesn't give a fuk.
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12-10-2012, 12:14 PM #121cold shower crew
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12-10-2012, 12:14 PM #122
You still don't understand. You say "faith" as if it somehow validates your beliefs. It does not.
I believe that the world is flat. All evidence points to the contrary. But i don't care and still believe because of "faith". Yet that doesn't make the world flat. I'm still wrong. I'm still an idiot. Just now I'm an idiot with faith.
Faith is your attempt to rationalize your belief in something that you already know isn't true. You want to believe in god because it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside knowing that you have a purpose and meaning in life. So you pick up one of the many thousands of superstitions/religions you could, and try to justify it with "faith".
My mom used to release helium balloons with words written on them to "communicate" with her relatives in heaven. The balloons just "disappeared in the sky". Everyone argued with her. She just chose to have "faith". She didn't stop until she wrote her full name on the balloons a few times and the police showed up telling her to stop because she was littering the area with her crap.
Your faith is not a substitute for reality, just your intelligence.Last edited by fireup6; 12-10-2012 at 12:20 PM.
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12-10-2012, 12:14 PM #123
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12-10-2012, 12:14 PM #124
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12-10-2012, 12:14 PM #125
I'm sorry I missed this post. I'm really glad you posted this because this is very important. This goes back to what I am talking about when I say interpretation. You can interpret this as chance and coincidence or you can see it as graceful and divine. The divinity of the universe is insane. You can see space as cold and dead or you can see it as a miracle. It is all faith. The answer will never be clear. It's a complete mystery. It's stuff like this why I believe. We are so intricate and complex and so is everything. It's all interpretation and faith.
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12-10-2012, 12:14 PM #126
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12-10-2012, 12:15 PM #127
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12-10-2012, 12:15 PM #128
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12-10-2012, 12:15 PM #129
The OP wanted this.
And it's impossible to let people of faith alone since for many of them their beliefs leach out into society. Abortion, wanting evolution removed from school science rooms, gay marriage, etc, that is an almost endless list. Mention that you are an atheist or agnostic wanting to run for any office and it's game over.
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12-10-2012, 12:15 PM #130
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12-10-2012, 12:24 PM #135
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12-10-2012, 01:23 PM #136
christian brah checking in...
i agree with most of the posts in this thread. religion is an evil and corrupt institution that's been enslaving millions of people for thousands of years. it nourishes the idea of fear into people's hearts (makes sense to get repeat customers). if more people knew how free and made perfect they really were, the whole attitude around the globe would be different.
i guess you could say i'm a jesus freak that believes in big bang theory and WANTS the progress of science and technology to flourish. i guess i get ticked off when a lot of "religious" people condemn the facts of science and technological advances.
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12-10-2012, 01:34 PM #137
Why do you have to refer to it as God rather than just an aspect of nature that drives us to do the things we are "meant to do"? I believe in science but I do think there are things that just don't have answers and even if they do they are answers that humans may never comprehend. I don't see what this has to do with God or religion or anything. I just see it as part of nature. The same way a lion is driven to hunt their prey for food humans are driven to progress their race and prosper. It CAN be coincidence, it CAN be god, it CAN be anything but attempting to nail it down to one answer when there is no real evidence for any of it is a huge disservice to logical thought and spirituality. The same way a lion doesn't have the brain capacity to understand why it hunts so fervently for prey maybe humans simply don't have the brain capacity to ever understand why we do the things we do or end up where we do.
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12-10-2012, 01:52 PM #138
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12-10-2012, 01:58 PM #139
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12-10-2012, 02:07 PM #140
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12-10-2012, 02:08 PM #141
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"I would rather live my life as if there is a god and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is." At least if you've led a life by religion you've led a good life. Morals. Lol at the people shooting down OP for deciding to follow a set of morals to better his life (he's even said he doesn't take the bible literally) and lol at the people saying OP is agnostic.
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12-10-2012, 02:11 PM #142
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