Chris Cormier looking shockingly small.

[trulyhuge1]

Done competing, moved onto other endeavors in life. Probably healthier now. Amazing when people freak out when they see pros after they are done.

[AdamOakley]

Lol I saw him at my gym a few months back. Routine was walk on the treadmill for about 30 minutes, sit on the bike for 25 not doing anything just talking on phone. Looked bigger than in this pic, but you would never guess he was one of the biggest freaks ever.

That's a sensible routine for a slightly overweight man in his 40's.


The posters saying 'do you want them to stay 260 lean when theyre 60?!'...noone is saying that, but its shocking for people to get a real idea of what genetics means. The only pre-pro physique have seen that was impressive is Heaths, but he was a basketball player and probably doing regular power lifts. But you can tell his insertions and shape are 'gifted'...with so many others, before and after their pro career there's no way to guess they would ever make good bodybuilders.

[AD337]

Well, since his comeback fell apart a while ago, and hes had the enjoyment (and suffering) of being in super muscular shape, I'm sure he wanted a break. So he stopped the drugs (well, probably not all of them ) , training, and eating.

i c what ya did ther

[spirit3530]

ITT


life is a stage






brb body dysmophia
brb muscle mass is easy to maintain


Reps to Dillet and Cormier have the nutts to move on.

Coincidence that most of the posters here are under the age of 35?

[flangmasterj]

Coincidence that most of the posters here are under the age of 35?

Yep. Most of the posters in this forum are under 35.

[Kenny Redd]

Yep. Most of the posters in this forum are under 35.

Yeah, I'm 38 but the over 35 forum is not as much fun. Before 35 and after 35 are totally different worlds physically. After 35 you have a pretty good idea that if you arent already pretty damn huge that it probably isnt going to happen. Lol. Whole workout changes at that point.

[ROMMYromboid]

ITT


life is a stage






brb body dysmophia
brb muscle mass is easy to maintain


Reps to Dillet and Cormier have the nutts to move on.

Coincidence that most of the posters here are under the age of 35?

This is a solid post, everypart of our lives has stages and the fact that Dillet and Corimer do not look as impressive externally does not mean they are not equally enjoying life internally. Would rep but do not want to be accused of rep begging.

[jld010]

Lol I saw him at my gym a few months back. Routine was walk on the treadmill for about 30 minutes, sit on the bike for 25 not doing anything just talking on phone. Looked bigger than in this pic, but you would never guess he was one of the biggest freaks ever.

There are many accounts of Dillett training like this during his hey day aswell, kind of a joke actually. Was just on his phone doing half assed workouts with mediocre weights. Look he wasnt a weakling, he benched 160kg easily(on someones account). But look, its not about weights. Ok regarding this thread. First of all, all these pros have amazing response to hormones. ALL of the elites, none of them dont. Regarding who had the freakiest genetics in this regard, impossibe to say. How much is genetics in this sport? Its everything, and you dont know it until u see it in front of u.

Story..................... dude in my gym, hes 24 years old, not wide clavicles, very good shape in arms, walks around at 210pounds, 6ft1, 15% bf. Doesnt lift heavily at all. Then decides to go on bicycle of VAR and cypicious, and within 3 weeks, his delts are capped, arms look amazing, and everyone stares at him. Increases weight to 220 pounds with same bf in about 2 months. With the pros, its amplified. Once this dude goes off, his shoudlers drop, and he looks normal again. response is everything. Coupled with the frame and joints, once the muscle grows on those frames. u have a god like product.

Regarding Dillett, he is not following diets, training regimes or d-protocols. Dillett is 47, a father of 4. So it doesnt shock me that he looks like a normal middle aged man,coupled with kidneys not performing at 100%, ( apparently he suffered kidney failiure a few years ago which explains some things awell).

Look i can understand that some bodybuilders on this forum hate it when the ignorant few or many make claims that its 100% drugs. it is hard training, and following diets and force feeding which is most important. But its the drugs that allow the body to use the nutrients and volumize even further to epic proportions. Without drugs, there is no professional bb,we would jsut have a Dillett and a Ronnie walking around at 230/240 pounds with 20 inch arms, yes this means that they are still elite, jus not freaks.

Which bodybuilder example story should shut everyone up...Betty Pariso. A walking chemical factory, grandmother. Started out as a 100pounds blond, rail thin women. With consistent use of anabolics she developed massive delts, legs etc... she got even bigger past the age of 40, all due to synthetics. Dont underestimate the power of the drugs, they are everything in this sport, just have the guts to take boat loads and have the dedication to put yourself through strenuous training and more importantly eat correctly. Can anyone argue the importance of drugs when looking at the Betty Pariso as an example? please humour me. Anyways, time to eat some chicken and pizza,sushi and go on bicyles and growth for 6 months straight, that human being will grow in all the right places.

[Tyrbolift]

Lots of posters going all one way or the other. The reality is that these former competitors are all different people. Some may have actual health problems (heart or other organs), while others just got mentally tired of living the way successful pros have to.

And yet others may have indeed experienced some sort of zen-like epiphany about the spiritual vs the physical.

[SammyJr]

. Anyways, time to eat some chicken and pizza,sushi and go on bicyles and growth for 6 months straight, that human being will grow in all the right places.

good post. i wish i had the guts to do it at 19 but im a little scared

[patbanya]

good post. i wish i had the guts to do it at 19 but im a little scared

So fear is the only thing holding you back? And, here I thought you were just being smart by focusing on school, planning for the future, and having something to fall back on. Man, do I feel stupid!

[SammyJr]

So fear is the only thing holding you back? And, here I thought you were being smart by focusing on school, and having something to fall back on. Man, do I feel stupid!

huh? i wanted to do both. focus on school and bodybuilding lol. im hoping to go to medical school and become a great bb

[TTimmerman]

huh? i wanted to do both. focus on school and bodybuilding lol. im hoping to go to medical school and become a great bb

i hope there will be a day you scan your own picture in a magazine

[patbanya]

huh? i wanted to do both. focus on school and bodybuilding lol. im hoping to go to medical school and become a great bb

Awesome! My point was, I would attribute your hesitation to put all your eggs in one basket to shrewd thinking rather than fear.

[jld010]

Flex almost never trained "off". so lets see what your body is made of, time to speak to some knowledgeable folk and get you on farm gradable bicyle meant for humans, not the vet bicycle stuff jsut as yet.

[Tony_Ulibarri]

Age is not really an issue unless you're five months shy of your 86th birthday. The thing is that most men can try to look more like Steve Reeves. Of course improving your physique becomes harder and harder as you age, especially if you are in your 50s and beyond. It takes a lot more motivation to stay huge and ripped at 60 because it's simply much harder to stay in shape at that age even if you're genetically gifted. Unless you're a 65-year-old Hollywood action star who gets paid $10M to have 17-inch arms, 30-inch waist and 6% body fat to star in a movie, you need tremendous discipline and willpower to even look half as good as that. Hey, is there any sane person in this world who wants to live the rest of his life weighing 270 pounds and having 10% body fat? If anything, Chris Cormier not only looks better now but he's also much happier and healthier. Answer this question: would you look better if you weigh 200 pounds with 17-inch arms, 31-inch waist, 9% bodyfat compared to if you weigh 280 pounds with 23-inch arms, and 38-inch waist? My own answer is YES.

[mcflymcflymcfly]

Some pics show what hard work, genetics (muscle insertions, shape, symmetry, proportion) and a great diet can do - that pic of Cormier isn't one. That pic only shows what drugs will do: build 'fake' muscle that quickly disappears when the drugs are no longer present.

Of course being an IFBB Pro is more than pills and some sporadic lifting... but not much more. It's certainly not year 'round strict dieting and 3-hour a day, 6-day a week, hit each bodypart with 3 exercises routines. We've seen the 'off-season' pics where these guys bloat 40lbs to 60lbs above their contest weight. Dexter Jackson built and maintained an Olympia-caliber physique working out 1 hour a day, and juicing. Kevin Levrone got back into Olympia-caliber shape - starting from 200lbs - working out and juicing only 4 months a year. What a joke.


I never touched 'roids, but my Dad told me he did them for a couple months sometime in the mid-late 60s (dianabol and anavar) . He put on 15-20 lbs of muscle.

I admit natural builders look like crap compared to the fully-drugged freaks, but "hard work and genetics" means NOTHING compared to the effects of drugs. And it's best if none of you guys delude yourselves that it does.

Clearly your knowledge and your dads knowledge of "riding the bicycle" is very limited. Two orals for a couple months, are you kidding? Not surprised your opinion on juice is that you just "lose it all".

[SammyJr]

i hope there will be a day you scan your own picture in a magazine

ha that would be an amazing day . thanks for wishing me the best.

Awesome! My point was, I would attribute your hesitation to put all your eggs in one basket to shrewd thinking rather than fear.

well yes, i guess both are good reasons. i gotta find out if i can handle the stuff first and stay healthy

Flex almost never trained "off". so lets see what your body is made of, time to speak to some knowledgeable folk and get you on farm gradable bicyle meant for humans, not the vet bicycle stuff jsut as yet.

haha, yea i still know nothing about it. time to learn..

[jld010]

Dont be ignorant to body chemistry, learn, learn, learn!!! You will grow! and you will blow up and keep if you know what you doing. you got good shoulders, time to grow up and horizontally

[PLANETGETLOW]

Dianabol (Methandrostenolone) is a methylated oral
Dbol being methylated produces methylestradiol
He would cycle 30mgs of Dbol 3 weeks on produced 4-7mgs

AAS discussion will get you banned here, quit discussing it