I was reading a couple of websites that say brown rice contains phytic acid, which makes it less healthy than white rice they say. Here's one of them: http://nutritiondiva.quickanddirtyti...hite-rice.aspx
Now those websites don't look like the most reliable to me but still I'd like to know if this is true.
If so I might just replace brown rice with white rice.
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11-09-2012, 10:15 AM #1
"White rice better than brown rice because of anti nutrients in brown rice" True?
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11-09-2012, 11:01 AM #6
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11-09-2012, 11:10 AM #7
Would definitely like to read that. Can you point me towards it?
I only found a Paleo thread in the female section:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...1329601&page=4
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11-09-2012, 01:45 PM #12
If you're referring to what I think you're referring to:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post849198003
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11-09-2012, 02:26 PM #13
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Was referring to bmj.com/content/344/bmj.e1454 a study that supports white rice increasing risk in type 2 diabetes and
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3024208/ supporting that brown rice reduces the risk.
Anyway, not a doctor, but they are.
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11-09-2012, 03:13 PM #15
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When reheating rice, remember to make sure it is steaming hot.
Otherwise, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacillus_cereus bacillus cereus can be an issue.
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11-09-2012, 03:13 PM #16
Did you read my post from another thread I linked to? It included the following:
Men and women who had high white rice intake were less likely to have European ancestry or to smoke and more likely to have a family history of diabetes.
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brown rice intake was not associated with ethnicity but with a more health-conscious lifestyle and dietary profile. For example, participants with higher brown rice intake were more physically active, leaner, less likely to smoke or have a family history of diabetes, and had higher intake of fruits, vegetables, and whole grains and lower intake of red meat and trans fat.
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11-09-2012, 03:22 PM #17
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Exactly my thoughts, however, considering that it has been published by the BMJ, and has a relatively interesting conclusion, I think some more research should be performed before I make I conclusion on whether white rice causes diabetes. But the idea will linger in the back of my head....
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11-09-2012, 03:48 PM #18
Who published it and what conclusion was drawn is much less relevant than the facts that were used. The conclusion is based on cherry-picking one of multiple known correlations (not to mention that studies based on correlation are among the weakest kind).
BTW, the conclusion is that brown rice "may lower risk of type 2 diabetes". They could have concluded that before they started.Last edited by x-ray vision; 11-09-2012 at 03:56 PM.
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11-09-2012, 03:54 PM #19
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That's exactly how epidemiology works, and is a vital start to coming up with a successful hypothesis and successful research. The hygiene hypothesis and asthma is a good example of this, as is genetical work, cherry-picking certain weak correlations and expanding the research into these. BMJ published because the stats are good, and anything with a dose response increases it's chance that it could be cause-effect.
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11-09-2012, 04:07 PM #20
With all of those known risk factors for diabetes belonging to one group, I don't see how anyone with half a brain would support further research based on it. Anyway, I'm not talking about coming up with a hypothesis or whether further research should be done. My purpose in posting was awaring iviicrociot that concluding anything from that study regarding brown rice consumption lowering the risk for diabetes makes no sense based on the facts given in the study.
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11-09-2012, 04:20 PM #21
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I do admit we are going off-topic. And I was not stating that your advice in this thread was incorrect I was merely saying that a statement like this:-
cannot be ruled out without further research. The problem may be white rice, the evidence is not strong enough to prove that it is, yet.I always rep back!
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11-09-2012, 05:44 PM #23
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Isn't it safe to say though that white rice has a higher glycemic index than brown rice and starches that cause a rapid increase in blood sugar levels also cause insulin levels to rise more rapidly which has been associated with the onset of type 2 diabetes? I'm not demonizing white rice at all... the majority of the world's population depends on it for sustenance. I'm not saying that brown rice has more nutritional value or that it is superior to white rice. Was simply stating that white rice inherently poses a higher risk to those predisposed to diabetes than does brown rice because of the glycemic value. This would be the same argument made against white potatoes or sweet potatoes, white bread vs whole grain. Of course people who are bodybuilding don't care because a carb is a carb in their macro count. But, gastronomy would beg to differ when it comes to those sensitive to insulin and that's really the only circumstance I can see where brown rice may be a better choice than white rice based off of what we know.
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11-09-2012, 06:21 PM #24
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fuking love white rice
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11-09-2012, 06:24 PM #25
No. How many people eat white rice alone and in a fasted state?
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post755226323
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11-09-2012, 06:28 PM #26
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About 3 billion people, nearly half the world's population, depend on rice for survival. You know, all those people that fast because there's nothing to eat.
http://www.patentlens.net/daisy/Rice...3649/3591.html
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11-09-2012, 06:37 PM #27
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GI is quite the myth. X-ray vision is referring to studies showing how GI affects insulin response, most of which are performed in a heavily fasted state.
You are correct in stating that quite a lot of the population rely on rice as a mainstay of their diet. Interestingly, half the population do not have type 2 diabetes mellitus. High GI food, in it's nature, is also extremely calorific when eaten in large amounts. Large amounts of calories is associated with type 2 diabetes. Therefore, high GI food is naturally going to be associated with type 2 diabetes, until someone does a detailed study comparing equal calorific diets comparing high GI food vs low GI food, which is going to a bitch to perform.I always rep back!
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11-09-2012, 06:37 PM #28
1. The first sentence after this: "About 3 billion people, nearly half the world's population, depend on rice for survival." is this: "In Asia as a whole, much of the population consumes rice in every meal." Even getting 30% of your calories from something else is going to render the GI of rice alone meaningless.
2. This is a bodybuilding website. People that are reading this board generally are not depending on rice for survival. I'm going to estimate that that applies to 100% of the people here.
3. If all you can get for the majority of your meals is white rice, worrying about getting diabetes should be among the least of your problems.
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11-09-2012, 06:54 PM #29
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So why choose whole grains at all then? The same argument the OP makes can be applied to bleached enriched flour vs whole grain bread. http://www.naturalnews.com/030304_wh...ytic_acid.html Seems like a lot of people on bodybuilding.com advocate whole grain bread when bread is an option in people's diets.
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11-09-2012, 06:58 PM #30
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