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    Natty vs non-natty comparison pic (pic) (PIC) (image) (jpeg)

    Natty:



    Note the following - flat due to being dry, lack of mass, shredded, delts and traps dont overpower everything else, abs not bulging like a mofo.

    Not natty:



    Note the following - dry yet hard and rounded muscle bellies, great amount of mass, shredded, striated delts and huge traps, abs bulging like a mofo.

    Natty off-season:



    Note - 12% bodyfat and over, does not look like a serious lifter, generally looks un-impressive.

    Not natty bulking:



    Note - Still under 10% bodyfat, f*ckload of water retention, visible juicy abs despite claiming to be 12%, looks pretty cut, still looks impressive.

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    These are the differences of natty and regular peanut butter? Guess I'm switching back to JIF.
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    Look at my pictures.. visible abs at 218-220.. never cut before until current(am right now).. never counted cals or macros till now..

    Barely even drank protein I'm so cheap... just genetics . Good photography and pump in them pictures..

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    Obviously you don't know anything about juicing.
    The criteria you use (the abs bs for example) don't tell you anything about whether they juice or not, they all come down to genetics.

    And what's with this shoulder criterium? I know lots of guys on the juice with bad delts and vice versa.

    And lol at claiming a juicing bulker looks better than a natty bulker. When I bulk when on the juice, I look like the michellin guy.

    Pls go and take your bs with you.


    Also, these are my criteria to determine whether someone is juicing or not:

    Do they look good? Then they're on the juice.
    Do they look bad? Then they still might be on the juice.

    Never failed me.

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    I always find it funny when people use phootoshopped photos to make the claim that somebody is on the gear.

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    height difference....
    genetics........
    and 2 worst pics of layne lol..
    pls go retard op

    lol @ 'shredded' being a criteria for not being natty.
    just because layne preps like chit doesnt mean he is natty, and vice versa

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    So not natty doesn't look good as natty. You"be just made the discovery of the century OP!!! Give this man the Nobel prize!

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    Does that ogus phaggot claim natty? I detest the guys personality, makes me clench a fist everytime i see him in a video.
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    I had about half a dozen points to counter your terrible argument with OP but the business of muscly men in thongs is clearly serious business for you so I'm just gonna let you have this.

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    Originally Posted by GlutesBretheren View Post
    height difference....
    genetics........
    and 2 worst pics of layne lol..
    pls go retard op

    lol @ 'shredded' being a criteria for not being natty.
    just because layne preps like chit doesnt mean he is natty, and vice versa
    No bro. The guy has a PhD and has been training for a decade and competing for 5 years. He also coaches a number of pros. If anyone knows how to prep, its him. The reason he looks like that is because he is natty.

    You are a very good example of how delusional and unrealistic some people are when it comes to natty expectations.

    And to patheticpos - shoulders and traps have more androgen receptors which is why they blow up when cycling. And if you look like the michelin man when you're bulking its because you are using poor quality gear.

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    Ogus posting yesterday:


    I have my doubts of him being natty honestly
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    If you guys think that Ogus isn't natty, I dont even wanna know what you think of hodge twins and chris jones

    Mainly hodge twins

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    unnatty guy has bigger from too though.

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    Originally Posted by Frizzel View Post
    No bro. The guy has a PhD and has been training for a decade and competing for 5 years. He also coaches a number of pros. If anyone knows how to prep, its him. The reason he looks like that is because he is natty.

    You are a very good example of how delusional and unrealistic some people are when it comes to natty expectations.

    And to patheticpos - shoulders and traps have more androgen receptors which is why they blow up when cycling. And if you look like the michelin man when you're bulking its because you are using poor quality gear.
    Just cause you has a phd doesn't meant he will prep well.......so you are implying that everyone who has better condition than him isn't natty...
    layne doesn't even get striated glutes......

    strong join date to chitty physique to age ratio lols.

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    matt ogus is ****ing natty you idiots. I watch everyone of his videos, it's easy to tell.

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    Ogus is natty.

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    Originally Posted by GlutesBretheren View Post
    height difference....
    genetics........
    and 2 worst pics of layne lol..
    pls go retard op

    lol @ 'shredded' being a criteria for not being natty.
    just because layne preps like chit doesnt mean he is natty, and vice versa
    Most natty pros look like that in the off season. It's amazing what a difference low body fat can make.

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    Lol at thinking Layne is natty
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    The delusion is strong in noob lifters.

    In before "Ill get to Ogus levels in 1 year after I finish my cut".

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    Originally Posted by Frizzel View Post
    The delusion is strong in noob lifters.

    In before "Ill get to Ogus levels in 1 year after I finish my cut".
    Ogus has been lifting for like 7 years in peak natty test years
    Ogus has had professional bodybuilder coaches
    Ogus is only 5'7
    Ogus is one strong mother****er, reps what most people here 1RM.
    Not to mention his genetics are pretty good.
    If he was juicing he'd look ****ing outrageous.

    He is natty, urine idiot if you think otherwise.

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    Originally Posted by Frizzel View Post
    The delusion is strong in noob lifters.

    In before "Ill get to Ogus levels in 1 year after I finish my cut".
    lol mate, just because you train like a pussy and eat like a bitch (I can make these assumptions based on AVI/join date/weight/lifts) doesn't mean that people who know what the fuk they are doing, and dedicate their whole life to it will not get better results.

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    Originally Posted by Brahmiscer View Post
    Ogus has been lifting for like 7 years in peak natty test years
    Ogus has had professional bodybuilder coaches
    Ogus is only 5'7

    He is natty, urine idiot if you think otherwise.
    5'5 150lbs on stage last year (the first pic is from than) second is him at like 175-180

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    neither is natural.

    Layne has alot of muscle, but terrible structure. I doubt he is natural. also the fact that he doesnt look like he lifts 90% of the time screams blasts when in shape.

    Matt ogus is a little prick with no morals, since the age of 16 he has been going gayforpay shows for gay men, generally old gay men. also the fact that he is bloated as hell rings a bell.

    Now i dont care , both of them are still impressive physique wise...

    But op, if you have super low test, why dont you go on HRT ? this is my wondering

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    Originally Posted by GlutesBretheren View Post
    lol mate, just because you train like a pussy and eat like a bitch (I can make these assumptions based on AVI/join date/weight/lifts) doesn't mean that people who know what the fuk they are doing, and dedicate their whole life to it will not get better results.
    You think someone who is enough of a loser to dedicate their whole life to lifting weights and eating will not use steroids ? if i was gonna do that i would go all the way, not halfway.

    SOme of you guys could seriously use a basic college level psychology class.

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