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    Originally Posted by tarheelblue0378 View Post
    How much of your salary are you giving to the starving kids in Africa?
    Immaterial. People aren't starving because they're poor or because there's a lack of food. There's a huge surplus of food in the world, and even in Africa. People are starving because someone in power wants them to starve. They control the food distribution through armies, militias, strongmen, or whatever and don't allow the food to get to the people they want to starve.
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    Originally Posted by RainingBlood View Post
    They don't need it, and some people actually do need it. That's the problem.
    so what do you suggest? we should throw money at the problem? Thats what the US has been doing for years and it is actually the reason why we are declining as a country. Or maybe you think everyone should have the same amount of money, similar to a communism society perhaps. But if everyone had the same amount then it would actually all be worthless.

    Originally Posted by witchfinderg View Post
    Because money is just some game we made up. If we made it up why does it have to be so unfair? Can't we just change the rules? I mean it's not like this **** actually exists.
    money isnt a game. u think this is a game?? what do you mean by money doesn't exist wtf

    Originally Posted by MegaPapizz View Post
    Remember feudalism?
    in fuedalism .1% had 99% of the money and everyone was starving and living in poor conditions. as long as people are getting their basic needs met (food,shelter,water) it doesn't really make too much of a difference how much money you have. most of the people who are complaining about the 1% seem to be middle-class citizens who are extremely rich compared to the rest of the world's population
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    Originally Posted by RainingBlood View Post
    They don't need it, and some people actually do need it. That's the problem.
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    Originally Posted by Wallhart5 View Post
    It's not that some people are wealthier than others it's because these people have money that realistically they don't need to even keep their current lifestyle.

    While people elsewhere die because they have no food.

    Not sure the capitalist model would work without poverty
    although I somewhat agree, the people that are complaining aren't the ones who are starving
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    Aren't the Rothschilds worth trillions of dollars? I thought being a billionaire was too much, but it's a fukking TRILLION. I would help people out with that kind of money, but apparently now the Rothschilds are environmental activists and they will start something to make the world a better place but probably because they know people are on their ass.

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    Originally Posted by GNoulez View Post
    The reason people are mad is because a small percentage has been able to recognize the game and it's aspects and play it so that they win hard at it.
    That's bullsh!t since the game has been locked down tight since before many generations of people were born. Some black dude living in a Philadelphia ghetto has no chance in hell of getting in and none of his relatives have either since the beginning of time. That's not a GAME it's organized crime.

    Also, who would want to play a game that creates poverty and misery? Only a beta ******* dreams about being their own oppressor, so wake up.

    Good people who want to live in a great world wouldn't play that game even if they could.
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    There's nothing wrong with it.... if you're that 1%.


    The problem is that every stupid kunt thinks they're going to be... thinks that it's actually possible for them to work hard and get into that part of society using 1920's values... so they vote down basic things like socialist healthcare because they think that the elevator only goes up.


    Apparently none of these stupid kunts has ever been made redundant and had a kid diagnosed with cancer...
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    The people who have money are in power. The people who are in power make the rules. You want 1% of people to make the rules for everyone?
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    The idea that all the wealthiest individuals "earned" their money is false. Sure individuals like Bill Gates provided something that people wanted, and so he earned his money from this. However, a lot of wealth is generated through things that dont have any social utility and aren't the result of any real work (i.e. derivatives)
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    Originally Posted by im12watisthis View Post
    sometimes 1% earned 90% of the money. sometimes 1% was able to illegally or immorally get it. thats my concern.


    governance needs to happen by the people. not the powerful.
    this is a democracy. the people can vote for whoever they want, governance is happening by the ppl

    Originally Posted by MajorCajones View Post
    this

    if we are 99 % with nothing...then lets mob up and take some ****....this the real world people, and when the lights start to go out survival mode comes on
    violence is never the answer

    Originally Posted by djfuzzy View Post
    Jelly. Exactly.

    I make poverty military pay as a Sergeant of seven years. I make enough to pay my bills, invest a small amount each month, and drink a lot of beer. I'm happy with that.

    I'd love to get paid more, but if the DoD doesn't want to increase my pay on Jan 1rd it's ok with me...unless the price of beer goes up.
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    Originally Posted by 0starine View Post
    The people who have money are in power. The people who are in power make the rules. You want 1% of people to make the rules for everyone?
    I agree with this, but a lot of it is the people's fault for consistently voting in politicians that come from the same breed/are funded by the same people. We shouldn't just penalize anyone who has worked hard to earn a substantial amount of money just because they are wealthier than most people.
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    Originally Posted by jantelo View Post
    this is a democracy. the people can vote for whoever they want, governance is happening by the ppl
    no, no and no, financial sector has such substantial power that the structure that is favorable to them will not change to be less favorable to them making money.

    Banks/financial services section make substantial campaign contributions, make contributions to schools, and hence those politicians and schools have an incentive to support whatever the financial services support. If you were against deregulation for example no major university would publish you in a scholarly piece a few years ago.
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    Capitalism, deal with it. I LOL when poor people complain about the rich being rich.
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    Originally Posted by TheAdlerian View Post
    That's bullsh!t since the game has been locked down tight since before many generations of people were born. Some black dude living in a Philadelphia ghetto has no chance in hell of getting in and none of his relatives have either since the beginning of time. That's not a GAME it's organized crime.

    Also, who would want to play a game that creates poverty and misery? Only a beta ******* dreams about being their own oppressor, so wake up.

    Good people who want to live in a great world wouldn't play that game even if they could.
    thats not true. the system is set-up so that you are free to move up and down the social ladder thats the beauty of it. any person can succeed. and by succeed i mean to live a comfortable life
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    Originally Posted by TheAdlerian View Post
    There's a difference between jealousy and righteous indignation.

    Money is just a game and it's extremely arbitrary, and that pisses people off. Also, the game creates suffering when it's not needed. For instance, with all the knowledge the west has, and the resources, every country could be a utopia in the material sense. But, the pretend money concept says "there's not enough money to build XYZ" when money isn't real so the supply of it makes no difference.

    Secondly, many rich people are part of families or hate groups, like jews, who control the money game. They aren't geniuses who are playing the game to force people to accept their awesome ideas, but rather they're more like organized crime figures who are living selfishly.

    That stops genuinely good and smart people from having the resources to make life better.
    This. All of this.


    People get so caught up with the idea of "money", that they forget that the goal of life is simply to live comfortably and have the ability to pursue your passions. If only more people would realize that, our problems would be solved.

    I don't have a problem with people earning money, good for you. But if you look at the extremely wealthy, 99% of the time they are simply stockpiling money that themselves and their family don't actually need in order to live fulfilling lives. No one NEEDS a billion dollars in personal income, I don't care who you are. At that point you are just collecting "zeros" on a computer screen for the fun of it. Meanwhile, there are great people out there with potential who live miserable existences and die all because they don't have access to those "zeros".. I'm not supporting any particular solution here. I just think we all need to recognize that as humans, the current system we have on this planet is pretty stupid.
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    Capitalism, deal with it. I LOL when poor people complain about the rich being rich.
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    bro, they have to share the money they've earned and worked hard for with us. it is only fair. we deserve it just as much as they do!!!






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    Originally Posted by cablesbrah View Post
    Capitalism, deal with it. I LOL when poor people complain about the rich being rich.
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    This. All of this.


    People get so caught up with the idea of "money", that they forget that the goal of life is simply to live comfortably and have the ability to pursue your passions. If only more people would realize that, our problems would be solved.

    I don't have a problem with people earning money, good for you. But if you look at the extremely wealthy, 99% of the time they are simply stockpiling money that themselves and their family don't actually need in order to live fulfilling lives. No one NEEDS a billion dollars in personal income, I don't care who you are. At that point you are just collecting "zeros" on a computer screen for the fun of it. Meanwhile, there are great people out there with potential who live miserable existences and die all because they don't have access to those "zeros".. I'm not supporting any particular solution here. I just think we all need to recognize that as humans, the current system we have on this planet is pretty stupid.
    and in this country, it is their choice to collect those zeros and do with them as they please... I am all for helping people out who need it, but the 99% trying to FORCE the 1% to give up their money? that's unfair.
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    Originally Posted by jantelo View Post
    thats not true. the system is set-up so that you are free to move up and down the social ladder thats the beauty of it. any person can succeed. am by succeed i mean to live a comfortable life
    You are deluded moron.

    BRB becoming a jew born of a jewish women so I can move up in the diamond business or become Iron Man in the next movie.

    It's not going to happen and you have no f@cking chance in hell, which is Earth by the way.
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    Originally Posted by MirinMyFlow View Post
    no, no and no, financial sector has such substantial power that the structure that is favorable to them will not change to be less favorable to them making money.

    Banks/financial services section make substantial campaign contributions, make contributions to schools, and hence those politicians and schools have an incentive to support whatever the financial services support. If you were against deregulation for example no major university would publish you in a scholarly piece a few years ago.
    you know that anyone can run for office right. even you can run for office. if voters decide your the best candidate for the job they will vote for you.
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    I'm not part of the 1%, that's what's wrong >:c
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    because these jews, racial jews, that do have the money use this money to advance there agenda or world enslavement. check out communism. it was created by a jew. that is a less severe apex-goal of what they want there world to be.

    jews are parasites, naturally. that is there means of existence. they do not do productive work.

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    Originally Posted by TheAdlerian View Post
    You are deluded moron.

    BRB becoming a jew born of a jewish women so I can move up in the diamond business or become Iron Man in the next movie.

    It's not going to happen and you have no f@cking chance in hell, which is Earth by the way.
    You're right, good thing people like PDiddy, JayZ, 50Cent etc had jew parents.
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    Originally Posted by Pyrodox11 View Post
    Of course people need it, but a pretty hefty % of those people don't deserve it. Tons and tons of losers in society just screaming for handouts. Makes me sick.
    The amount of money given as handouts under the guise of laws established through lobbying by the top 1% is light years beyond all the undeserved handouts to the people that cheat the systems.
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    Originally Posted by TheAdlerian View Post
    There's a difference between jealousy and righteous indignation.

    Money is just a game and it's extremely arbitrary, and that pisses people off. Also, the game creates suffering when it's not needed. For instance, with all the knowledge the west has, and the resources, every country could be a utopia in the material sense. But, the pretend money concept says "there's not enough money to build XYZ" when money isn't real so the supply of it makes no difference.

    Secondly, many rich people are part of families or hate groups, like jews, who control the money game. They aren't geniuses who are playing the game to force people to accept their awesome ideas, but rather they're more like organized crime figures who are living selfishly.

    That stops genuinely good and smart people from having the resources to make life better.
    not everyone wants to work for free bro. most people look after their self-interest first and then are willing to help others. the thing is that most people will never be satisfied with what they have because someone else will always have more
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    Originally Posted by ajn View Post
    This. All of this.


    People get so caught up with the idea of "money", that they forget that the goal of life is simply to live comfortably and have the ability to pursue your passions. If only more people would realize that, our problems would be solved.
    In psychology there's a way to manipulate people, usually retarded people or children, called a Token Economy.

    That's where you use something like shiny stickers, make them seem awesome, and give them, take them away, or withhold them, to manipulate the person. In psych this is done to stop annoying behaviors and whatnot, but in the world it's WHAT MONEY IS.

    Money = Shiny Stickers.

    For the right number of stickers, really their numerical representation on a computer screen, millions, if not billions, would f@ck their own mother.

    Probably the average person reading this would f@ck their mom on video for ten billion dollars/stickers.

    Meanwhile, that amount is meaningless to people who control money.
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    Originally Posted by jantelo View Post
    not everyone wants to work for free bro. most people look after their self-interest first and then are willing to help others. the thing is that most people will never be satisfied with what they have because someone else will always have more
    People already are working for free.

    See my last post about a Token Economy.
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    Originally Posted by fireman_mike View Post
    and in this country, it is their choice to collect those zeros and do with them as they please... I am all for helping people out who need it, but the 99% trying to FORCE the 1% to give up their money? that's unfair.
    I know it's their choice, that's why I said I don't have a problem with people being rich. I just have a problem with the SYSTEM as a whole. It's not a good system. The way in which we as people relate to money, financial currency, it is not optimal.

    How come no one ever takes a step back and says "Wait a second.. why are we even living like this?" There are more than enough resources to go around, yet people are still starving. Humans as a species should be better than that, clearly we haven't fully progressed. Greed and politics are what is keeping us in the dark ages.

    I feel like people are too caught up in the whole liberal vs conservatives, democrat vs republican, political bullsh*t that no one ever sees it this way. Everyone wants to take sides and immediately gets defensive.
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    Originally Posted by TheAdlerian View Post
    You are deluded moron.

    BRB becoming a jew born of a jewish women so I can move up in the diamond business or become Iron Man in the next movie.

    It's not going to happen and you have no f@cking chance in hell, which is Earth by the way.
    Let me clear a few things up: I quoted two things from you and my reply was for the second quote, I edited my post and wrote a separate response for your first quote.

    As far as what you said above: the example you said is true, BUT thats not what I said or meant. I said that any person can freely move up and down the social ladder and you know thats true. If you start lower on the ladder will it be harder to move up? Yes but it is not impossible. Not everyone is cut out to be an actor, but if you find what your good at you can succeed at your passions. Hard work will separate you from the rest of the pack and put you ahead, a lot of people fail to grasp this concept.
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