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[Botika]

I'd be interested to read it elitebrah...

[EliteBrah]

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/boos...r-reports.html
cadmium, arsenic, lead and mercury

this link is better and has charts that compare the proteins:
http://www.ironaddicts.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=27104

[EliteBrah]

looks like muscle milk and EAS myoplex are the worst offenders

[taf1968]

So . . . does the fact that my kids have been sticking magnets to me instead of the fridge mean it's time to consider a new protein powder?

[Big_Sky_Guy]

Oh I'm planning on vomiteyness.
She's such a badass.

Please, please use better form than DLB on your cleans!

[BrotherWolf]

looks like muscle milk and EAS myoplex are the worst offenders

doesn't surprise me at all , both brands give me cramps in fact all commercial brands with flavoring and sweeteners gives me some sort of issue
I'm done buying overpriced crap I get mine from a small company, family run business they use US whey
I buy it flavorless and it taste great plus they can provide you with the lab sheet from a US lab

[acrawlingchaos]

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/boos...r-reports.html
cadmium, arsenic, lead and mercury

this link is better and has charts that compare the proteins:
http://www.ironaddicts.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=27104

This was big in the news 2 years ago. You actually have to drink 4 of them a day EVERY day to exceed the GRAS safety thresh hold. What this mean, in all reality, is that you would have to get the majority of your calories from these products in order for the heavy metals to have any real negative impact.

[EliteBrah]

AC you need to understand that it is actually 3 servings and that many people easily reach 3 servings daily.

furthermore, these are not your only source of heavy metals. you get smaller amounts in your daily food intake. combined with the protein it will exceed the daily amount which is a major cause for concern

Point is, some protein powders have way more heavy metals than others so avoid those and take the cleaner ones.

[acrawlingchaos]

AC you need to understand that it is actually 3 servings and that many people easily reach 3 servings daily.

furthermore, these are not your only source of heavy metals. you get smaller amounts in your daily food intake. combined with the protein it will exceed the daily amount which is a major cause for concern

Point is, some protein powders have way more heavy metals than others so avoid those and take the cleaner ones.

FYI, the same article states high consumption of protein is unhealthy as well.

Consuming too much protein, which can be done if some supplements are overused, can lead to health problems, according to Consumer Reports. Most women need about 46 grams of protein per day and most men need about 56 grams, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

These were also the same people that ranked my washer and dryer, and apparently they are now the expert in supplements?

http://www.bodybuildingsecretslive.c...ews-you-blind/

Allow me to take a few snips of the article.

Here’s How Consumer Reports Screws You Blind
Is Your Protein Shake Poison?!

......

In a nutshell, Consumer Reports used USP (U.S. Pharmacopeia) an independent research facility to test 15 protein drinks which included ready to drinks, meal replacement power and just whey powders.

Consumer Reports testing was based on consumption of three shakes per day and the testing applied proposed U.S. Pharmacopeia standards - not current, accepted or approved standards or guidelines. It’s important to note this was not published in a peer reviewed scientific journal.

......


All of the products listed in the Consumer Reports article are not the same. Muscle Milk and Myoplex ranked the highest partly because they are Meal Replacement Powders or MRPs. MRP’s will have naturally higher trace amounts of these elements because they include a blend of all macronutrients (protein, fat, carbohydrates), plus micronutrients in vitamins & minerals. Whey protein powders OR low carb protein powders will contain lower levels of these elements because they provide mostly protein and not the full blend of macronutrients plus vitamins & minerals that MRP’s do.

......

First off … let me start by saying I’m not a scientist by nature. But that doesn’t disqualify me from making comments on how a proper study should be conducted. In fact, I wondered myself after reading this article.. how would one conduct such a study?

My guess is, at the very least they need to include the methods used in testing so that anybody else qualified could reproduce the results. Even friendly hackers do this. They report their findings and methods used to reproduce the error in an effort to get the company in question to fix their product.

However, what’s the #1 thing missing from this Consumer Reports article Heavy Metals Found in Protein Shakes? Care to take a guess?

The methods used! For all I know, they took various expired supplements from a location in Area 51 and used a metal testing kit from ACE Hardware. They don’t specifically say how it was conducted and the onus is on them.

Here’s How another 3rd Party, Independent Agency Responded to the Consumer Reports Article on Protein Drinks

“NSF International cannot comment on the test results reported in the July 2010, Consumer Reports article on protein drinks. It omits critical information about the laboratory that performed the test and its accreditation qualifications. ISO 17025 accreditation is critical for any laboratory testing for heavy metals in dietary supplements and nutritional products.

The article also omits the test methods used, analytical preparation, sample size, the basis of their risk assessment, detection limits, quality control data and instrumentation used for this report.”

If I was to listen to every nutritional scare tactician, I would stay away from red meat because it causes cancer, stop eating eggs because of cholesterol and avoid sugar because it makes me fat.

[pharty]

Please, please use better form than DLB on your cleans!

I've only done these a handful of times but I think I was good until the last few reps. At least that's what my gym friends said
What she's doing is sometimes bar is too far from body/not pulling up instead out?

[pharty]

So gym got some new equipment and to my delight they got ladders and ropes.

Anyone have a ladder (footwork not arms after today's DLB circuit!) workout they like?
Please and thank you.

[penny0527]

I'm doing this tmrw


'Cept I won't be using BW lulz

Curious how some would critique her squat

[taiga1]

Protein coffee? Would drink for breakfast/10

Cheers!

[pharty]

Curious how some would critique her squat

This is one of those times when I just think something like "form is not perfect but LOOK at that body and tell me something isn't working".
I got lower
Same for bench.

[UnaChispita]

Curious how some would critique her squat

^^^^ In for answers.

Also, wondering about her BP. Her hips seem to completely off the bench. I know the back is supposed to be arched, but what are the hips supposed to do?

(Yeah, I'm new).

[penny0527]

This is one of those times when I just think something like "form is not perfect but LOOK at that body and tell me something isn't working".
I got lower
Same for bench.

I thought it was interesting how the camera was just high enough to really not show her depth. From what I saw I go much deeper than that.

As far as form and her body....there is more than one way to skin a cat.

[pharty]

^^^^ In for answers.

Also, wondering about her BP. Her hips seem to completely off the bench. I know the back is supposed to be arched, but what are the hips supposed to do?

(Yeah, I'm new).

My back isn't even remotely that arched. Gym friends say her style is easier? No idea.
Surely one of our friends here knows the answer.

I thought it was interesting how the camera was just high enough to really not show her depth. From what I saw I go much deeper than that.

As far as form and her body....there is more than one way to skin a cat.

Yeah high camera but you can still get some glimpses right? Now I want to poke around and see if there are any vids of just squat and bench...not in that circuit.

I have no idea how to skin a cat.

[Armstrongha]

Have $12 to last till Sunday

Haven't done this in a while

Feelsbatman?

[acrawlingchaos]

Curious how some would critique her squat

Her squat is absolutely fine. She just doesn't do a full ROM. This is a common bodybuilding tactic where the specific muscles are constantly under tension, unlike a full ROM squat where the Pressure is taken off everything at lockout, and below parallel the focus would shift to the posterior. You can see the same limited ROM on the bench press.

High rep work of this nature with low rest time is conditioning / hypertrophy work.

Whether it is appropriate for her would be dependent on the rest of her programming.

[penny0527]

Her squat is absolutely fine. She just doesn't do a full ROM. This is a common bodybuilding tactic where the specific muscles are constantly under tension, unlike a full ROM squat where the Pressure is taken off everything at lockout, and below parallel the focus would shift to the posterior. You can see the same limited ROM on the bench press.

High rep work of this nature with low rest time is conditioning / hypertrophy work.

Whether it is appropriate for her would be dependent on the rest of her programming.

I only saw a lack of full ROM. It was hard to tell though due to the height of the camera if even that was the case. It isn't how I do them but I figured someone would have some info on why she does. Maybe I'll slap on 135 next time and do partials.

[acrawlingchaos]

I only saw a lack of full ROM. It was hard to tell though due to the height of the camera if even that was the case. It isn't how I do them but I figured someone would have some info. Maybe I'll slap on 135 next time and do partials.

If you are going to do partials, limited ROM, etc you have to have a reason WHY and train for a goal.... other wise, you're just doing partial reps.

[UnaChispita]

If you are going to do partials, limited ROM, etc you have to have a reason WHY and train for a goal.... other wise, you're just doing partial reps.

So...what would be a reason for a limited ROM?

[Wtuttle]

So...what would be a reason for a limited ROM?

Injury

[acrawlingchaos]

So...what would be a reason for a limited ROM?

Specifically? High rep work, with short rest intervals, with a limited range of motion will place an extremely high metabolic demand on that muscle. The body will respond in several way.

. Adapt to constantly depleted ATP sources by increasing glycogen storage capacity.
. Increased glycogen storage is what sarcoplasmic hypertrophy is (what is considered hypertrophy)
. Increase lactic thresh hold.
. Increase mitochondria sites, which can increase lipid/adipose metabolism.

Though again, if you use this sort of training, your entire workout has to be balanced enough to allow room for partial work. Novices really have no business with it (I personally consider myself still a novice).

Injury

SMH. No, it won't cause injury. It's actually an advanced technique for bodybuilding.

[penny0527]

If you are going to do partials, limited ROM, etc you have to have a reason WHY and train for a goal.... other wise, you're just doing partial reps.

Your sarcasm detector must be off I do not do partials because I personally do not have a reason. But I like to hear why others might/do. Good info.

[acrawlingchaos]

Your sarcasm detector must be off I do not do partials because I personally do not have a reason. But I like to hear why others might/do. Good info.

Ya... it was never really fixed tbh. Lots of lucky guesses.

I don't do partials, but I have done walkouts before. Load about 20-30 pounds more than my max and hold it on my back. It's help mentally prepare for a weight increase.

[BrotherWolf]

Curious how some would critique her squat

It's not a squat .. it's a half squat

totally quad dominant she could do leg press instead and it'd be pretty much the same
but this is a circuit type training so it doesn't matter

[BrotherWolf]

If you are going to do partials, limited ROM, etc you have to have a reason WHY and train for a goal.... other wise, you're just doing partial reps.

regardless of goal full rom is always better , doing less reps but at full rom is more beneficial yet harder to do
so to be able to do 20 rep squats she has to do partials or take weight off..

[BrotherWolf]

SMH. No, it won't cause injury. It's actually an advanced technique for bodybuilding.

there's nothing advanced in doing partial ROM it's just a choice to add variety, full rom squats works more muscles, partials are quad dominant and quite easier to perform if you do higher reps

[acrawlingchaos]

there's nothing advanced in doing partial ROM it's just a choice to add variety, full rom squats works more muscles, partials are quad dominant and quite easier to perform if you do higher reps

Would you ever recommend a novice do partial range of motion?


And FWIW, I do not like partial work period. It isn't my style or preference. For those that design their program appropriately, it can be effective though.... again, not my cup of tea.