Vintage Iron Thread

[dumb.bell]

Regarding the Zuver plates. He said he squatted with them when he first got them and that it took several guys just to load them on the bar.

[RockCrshr]

What many people don't know about these plates is that they are so poorly balanced and some are off 4 or 5 pounds on the 50lb plates. Also alot of them cracked around the man's wrist. Zuver's first custom plates were a knock off of the Paramount barbell deep dish plate. There was a total of 150 plates made with the man on them. Somewhere around 100 50lb, and I am not sure about the breakdown of the larger plates, but there are more still on the west coast.

[dumb.bell]

What many people don't know about these plates is that they are so poorly balanced and some are off 4 or 5 pounds on the 50lb plates. Also alot of them cracked around the man's wrist. Zuver's first custom plates were a knock off of the Paramount barbell deep dish plate. There was a total of 150 plates made with the man on them. Somewhere around 100 50lb, and I am not sure about the breakdown of the larger plates, but there are more still on the west coast.

I'd hate to know that I paid what people pay for those things and it be off by 4 or 5 pounds, or worse, crack!

[claricSTi]

Here's some york plates I grabbed recently for .40 per pound



and some of my ivanko db's

[ffrink]

I bought a truckload of weights Saturday night. The guy said he had two 100s, among other weight, and the big ones turned out to be plates made at a local mill.
I loaded them up, brought them home and put them on the scale. They were 191 lbs each.

[rlundregan]

I bought a truckload of weights Saturday night. The guy said he had two 100s, among other weight, and the big ones turned out to be plates made at a local mill.
I loaded them up, brought them home and put them on the scale. They were 191 lbs each.

At least they were consistent, eh?

[irongrandpa]

I bought a truckload of weights Saturday night. The guy said he had two 100s, among other weight, and the big ones turned out to be plates made at a local mill.
I loaded them up, brought them home and put them on the scale. They were 191 lbs each.

The local High School that I've gotten some free equipment from has quite a few of these type plates, they are cut out of pieces of steel for testing purposes, he gets them and has the hole bored. He weighs them and uses them for heavier plates, most of his are about 89-90 lbs.

[dumb.bell]

I bought a truckload of weights Saturday night. The guy said he had two 100s, among other weight, and the big ones turned out to be plates made at a local mill.
I loaded them up, brought them home and put them on the scale. They were 191 lbs each.

At 191lbs I'd assume those would be hard to load on a bar, but I'd assume they would be nice on a leg press if you left them on at all times. Either way 191lb plates are cool. I'm assuming they are Olympic?

[ffrink]

At 191lbs I'd assume those would be hard to load on a bar, but I'd assume they would be nice on a leg press if you left them on at all times. Either way 191lb plates are cool. I'm assuming they are Olympic?

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Unfortunately they are standard holes. But you are right. They are cool. How many gyms will have a 2 plate 400lb setup sitting around for deadlifts!??!! I have them listed on the local CL as 'Train wheels'......

[twodog]

When I was young I always wanted to get two man hole covers and drill them out for oly bar use, but I never did it. It was probably best that way anyway, as I'm not sure that somebody would have liked to find their car stuck in a man hole

[dumb.bell]

I'm working on getting a few more of these plates, hopefully by the end of next week.

I've added some plates to the collection (Unbranded Ivanko Plates). I've purchased another 460lbs. This gets me up to 1540lbs.

Collection consists of:

7 pairs of 45s
6 pairs of 35s
6 pairs of 25s
6 pairs of 10s
6 pairs of 5s
2 pairs of 2.5s

[AttyGuy]

Pics or it's not true.

[dumb.bell]

Pics or it's not true.

In this instance you may actually be correct. Although I have purchased or agreed to purchase these additional plates, I only have 145lbs of the 460lbs in hand. I am still waiting on the others to arrive. Maybe I didn't jinx myself - LOL.

[dumb.bell]

One of my agents has informed me that this set is now in her possession!

[irongrandpa]

One of my agents has informed me that this set is now in her possession!

Another good pick up!

[KeithTheSnake]

One of my agents has informed me that this set is now in her possession!

Sweet Ivankos! I have their relatives.

[AttyGuy]

One of my agents has informed me that this set is now in her possession!

Nice. What do the stickers say.

[dumb.bell]

Nice. What do the stickers say.

I'm pretty sure the are the little silver Ivanko stickers.

[AttyGuy]

This is posted in the York Gang thread, but I'm putting it up here too.

Not one bar, but two. With collars. Ship's wheel collars. These 1960's era York Oly bar sat in storage since the 1960's when the owner went into the military. There is minimal, if any, wear on the bars. Rockettrucker picked them up recently.














From the 1960 York Barbell Catalog:

[irongrandpa]

Great looking bars and collars!

[ZeroXero]

Northernmoris: Thanks for the story and the pics.

[ZeroXero]

Robert Zuver Jr. was selling some of the plates on eBay and Richard Sorin bought them. He subsequently purchased several more of Zuver's plates, to include the 200-lb plates.

There is a set on eBay for $5000 "buy now"! Amazing.

[ZeroXero]

Does anyone know the origin of the standard sizes for plates, in the USA, particularly the 35 lbs and 45 lbs sizes? Or when they became popular, and what sizes were common before them? I've seen in some of these older thread that there were 50lb standard style weights, and of course 100lb plates are still made.

The: 10 25 50 100 seems more obvious and mimics the way other things are broken out like our coins. (1,5,10,25,50,100) Paper currency has the weird 1,2,5,10,20,50,100 series.

You rarely see 20 lbs, 40 lbs, 60 lbs or 80 lbs, nor 70lbs or 90lbs - the latter two of which fit better with the 35 lbs / 45 lbs convention at the mid sized plates.

(And of course there is the kilogram denominated plates for international types... )

[rthawker]

Does anyone know the origin of the standard sizes for plates, in the USA, particularly the 35 lbs and 45 lbs sizes? Or when they became popular, and what sizes were common before them? I've seen in some of these older thread that there were 50lb standard style weights, and of course 100lb plates are still made.

The: 10 25 50 100 seems more obvious and mimics the way other things are broken out like our coins. (1,5,10,25,50,100) Paper currency has the weird 1,2,5,10,20,50,100 series.

You rarely see 20 lbs, 40 lbs, 60 lbs or 80 lbs, nor 70lbs or 90lbs - the latter two of which fit better with the 35 lbs / 45 lbs convention at the mid sized plates.

(And of course there is the kilogram denominated plates for international types... )

Since the USA doesn't use Kilos I assume somewhere along the line someone thought it would be easier to just round to the nearest 5lbs. 20Kilo=44lbs, 15Kg=33lbs, 10Kg=22lbs, 5Kg=11lbs.

[AttyGuy]

York Barbell (Bob Hoffman) copied the Berg Hantel barbell design back in the 1930's. The plates were in kilos.

[ZeroXero]

York Barbell (Bob Hoffman) copied the Berg Hantel barbell design back in the 1930's. The plates were in kilos.

Thanks! Never heard of Berg Hantel, but I did a Google search and found the Oldtime Strongman site, which is quite interesting.

[ZeroXero]

Here is an article on the "History of Barbells, Dumbbells and Indian Clubs"

la84foundation.org/SportsLibrary/IGH/IGH0306/IGH0306c.pdf

[ProtienandIron]

Those ship wheel collars are sweet. Lovely bars too.

[dumb.bell]

Is there anything special about this plate? Anyone have any idea who the manufacturer might be?

[morebarbell]

One of my agents has informed me that this set is now in her possession!

I tried to get that set in Colorado but the seller doesn't want to ship. He seems like a nice guy. Hopefully someone that appreciates the set will pick it up. I'm still on searching.