If you were going to be lifting primarily on bare concrete and were mainly going to use them for deads in the low/mid fours (touch-and-go, not dropped) and possibly a little bit of oly lifting (again, not dropped intentionally), which bumpers would you choose?
I have ~1200 lbs of iron, so this is not a replacement for any of that and it won't see any rack time. It's just a little something I feel like adding to my collection, just for the hell of it...and due to that, budget is a factor.
I see lots of folks using Hi-Temps on concrete, but from what I've read they bounce high and are very wide, limiting the amount of 45's I can load on the bar.
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03-23-2015, 06:09 PM #1
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Yes, another bumper thread...
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03-23-2015, 06:21 PM #2
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As you know, I'm a big fan of the Pendleys. The HD's are nice, they have a dead bounce. I ended up getting two, 210lb sets of the Elite Classics because I need more than the 260lb set of HD's that I had and liked the much narrower width of the Elites. I sold the HD's and upgraded. That gives me 420lbs of the Elites and I still have one pair of 55lb HD's and extremely happy with them. These are in addition to keeping all my iron plates just as you plan to do. MDUSA has been great to deal with also.
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03-23-2015, 09:08 PM #4
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Is there any way to bring in mats to use?
Cut some up & place them where they need to be?
This sounds like a not-so-good idea & the poor bumpers. I feel as if they'd wear out fairly quickly.Crews: Ivanko Barbell Crew #52, York Barbell Club #95, Equipment Crew #59
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03-24-2015, 04:26 AM #5
Time for a longer sleeved deadlift bar. Hi-temps are the only bumpers I'd use on concrete. They are indestructible. Yes, they bounce, but it's not as bad as what people say.. They absorb the impact so they also make for a pretty quiet bumper. Very cool product. Note that they have a slightly small diameter than a traditional 45, which sucks if you plan to add any iron on the bar with them.
Anyways, yeah.. either build a platform or get some 3/4" thick stall mats and buy some Rogue HGs or Pendlay HDs and you should be fine. I must say it's really nice deadlifting with bumpers.Equipment Crew #68, Ivanko Crew #47, Rogue Barbell Club #7, Mech6 Crew #30
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03-24-2015, 05:10 AM #6
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I can get new Lynx Econ bumpers (same as Rogue HG) or like-new used Hi-Temps locally for about the same price for a 260# set. Lynx run $120/pr for additional 45's but new Hi-Temps would be a little more.
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Before injuring my back I was deadlifting on concrete with a carpet rug (home depot). I never dropped intentionally, but occasionally they would slip a little on the way down. I use the touch and go method, not intentionally bouncing but I definitely wasn't trying to come to a dead stop.
I am not a fan of High Temps. Cosmetics matter to me and High Temps are hit or miss. I've had some with chunks missing (voids) and white plastic imbedded (looked like shredded plastic bag). I like the Pendlays (both the elite and HD). If the Lynx are the same as the Pendlay HD and you can get them at a better price, that would probably be the route to go if you aren't willing to invest the money in the Elites. For the difference in price, i think the Elites are worth the investment.▪█─────█▪ Equipment Crew #39 ▪█─────█▪
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03-24-2015, 09:12 AM #12
In addition to the quality issues, I could never be okay with a non standard diameter...
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03-24-2015, 09:17 AM #13
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I look at it this way: if they hold up fairly well for crossfitters who are well known for dropping loaded bars from overhead, they ought to hold up fine to a bit of touch-and-go dead lifting.
I do my deads (as I said, touch-and-go) using irons, with a cheap rubber door mat from Walmart under each end of the bar. I like to hear the clank of the plates so I tend to bump them pretty hard, but always under control. I've been doing this for a few years now and there are no marks on the floor that I can see."What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us." - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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03-24-2015, 12:10 PM #14
True. That's how I would use them too so it's probably a non-factor. I don't have any bumpers yet but I've been thinking about adding some. I accidentally found some, maybe 1 foot by 2 foot pieces of horse stall mats at a local mercantile store, kind of like a small version of Tractor Supply and I asked the guy there how much. He just asked how many I wanted and said I could have them. They work perfect for adding a little cushion for deads.
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03-24-2015, 01:52 PM #16
Rage bumpers are the only ones besides Hi Temps that I know of that aren't 450mm diameter, but there are probably others out there too that haven't gotten with the program or went with their own unique size for some reason.
Deadlifting 400 lbs is nothing like dropping 300 lbs from overhead, so you would be fine with just about any 450mm bumpers. Besides Hi Temps they're all dead-bounce hard rubber. About 500 lbs of any econ bumpers (again, besides Hi Temp) will fit, but if you see yourself going over 500 lbs you might go with comp bumpers (large steel hub, thinner), or just wait to see if you reach that point and start phasing them in. Combining econ and comp bumpers isn't a problem for deadlifts.www.tworepcave.com
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this site has a pretty good review of bumpers. One thing that always caught my eye was their mention of Fringesport bumpers. Apparently their inserts have an anchor that goes deeper into the rubber to keep the inserts from loosening up.
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03-25-2015, 10:31 AM #18
Interesting:
I wonder if that review is still accurate. It says:
The 10 pound plates have a few mm (out of 450 mm) shaved off so that when you drop a loaded bar with heavier plates, those thicker plates take the impact rather than the 10’s; which as you know are more susceptible to bending.
OneFitWonder bumpers all have the same standard diameter- you can mix and match to load your bar
To be fair, I got another set of Pendlay HDs that day and they were dirty. But they were dusty dirty not sticky dirty and a quick wipe down with a towel fixed that. Also, they're the first ones I've got that smelled but the smell was gone the next day. Also:
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03-25-2015, 11:55 AM #19
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If I could get them for the same price (shipped) as what I'd pay for black ones locally, I'd consider it...but I definitely wouldn't pay extra for colored plates. Not really my style.
Now that's a pretty cool idea. It would take a catastrophic failure for that insert to pop out."What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us." - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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