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    HELP! something missing in my back development - PIC

    I took a few back pictures the other day and I feel like the muscle structure is lacking, but I can't put my finger on it. Like, which muscles look under-developed? Is it my rear delts? I do a lot of different types of rows/face pulls/deadlifts/chinups/lat pulldowns, so I feel like I'm hitting it from all directions. Maybe I just need to get leaner to see everything?

    Please disregard the apparent lack of muscles on my right side, lol. The lighting was making it hard to pick up both sides.

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    Yes, your rear delts seem to be lacking. With all the workouts you listed above I don't see why they wouldn't be popping out. Maybe its just them damn genetics lol. But other than that your backs looking good!! Keep up the good work. BTW i am digging your hat
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    Originally Posted by ktb007 View Post
    Yes, your rear delts seem to be lacking. With all the workouts you listed above I don't see why they wouldn't be popping out. Maybe its just them damn genetics lol. But other than that your backs looking good!! Keep up the good work. BTW i am digging your hat
    LOL. We stayed in a cabin with an African theme. I couldn't resist posing with the safari hat... I'll do some more focused delt work and see what happens.
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    Your traps stick out as non-existant to me... but I think it may be the way youre posing that is giving you the look of something missing.
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    Traps, where are your traps? Your shoulders stick out due to lack of traps. Even if I intentionally pose with my shoulders pulled forward I can still see my lumpy traps in there srs. I suggest heavy bent over bb rows, that's what really made mine explode.
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    Good lord, your DLs have gone up since I last remember seeing your stats! eek, Ive got some catch up to do!!
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    Originally Posted by thehobbes View Post
    Traps, where are your traps? Your shoulders stick out due to lack of traps. Even if I intentionally pose with my shoulders pulled forward I can still see my lumpy traps in there srs. I suggest heavy bent over bb rows, that's what really made mine explode.
    Is it all of my traps or just my upper traps that are poor?

    Why aren't the other lifts hitting my traps??? Argh! It's so frustrating. What is different about bent over rows? I've been nervous to do them because of my low back injury a year ago. It's pretty much healed up though. But it seems like deadlifts should be doing something for them.
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    Deadlifts should, yes...
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    I second the traps...and also a bit more rhomboids.

    Do some high BB pulls (like a standing upright row) and heavy shrugs.
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    Originally Posted by oregonchick76 View Post
    Is it all of my traps or just my upper traps that are poor?

    Why aren't the other lifts hitting my traps??? Argh! It's so frustrating. What is different about bent over rows? I've been nervous to do them because of my low back injury a year ago. It's pretty much healed up though. But it seems like deadlifts should be doing something for them.
    Traps in general. Yeah DL should do a lot for them, how much/often are you doing DL? High weight, high reps, what's the deal? DL would be riskier to the low back than bent over rows IMO, but I suggest doing both. Went you do bent over rows instead of upright it hits more back less shoulders. I do not do upright rows since they don't feel comfortable with my shoulders, but I've gotten pretty far with the bent overs and when I started going past rowing a plate my traps exploded.

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    Do some high BB pulls (like a standing upright row) and heavy shrugs.
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    Good lord, your DLs have gone up since I last remember seeing your stats! eek, Ive got some catch up to do!!
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    I think it may be your posing technique. Get your elbows up a bit higher and back a bit farther. Really focus on contracting your back. And don't turn your head. Take some more shots. Better lighting would help too.
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    Originally Posted by thehobbes View Post
    Traps in general. Yeah DL should do a lot for them, how much/often are you doing DL? High weight, high reps, what's the deal? DL would be riskier to the low back than bent over rows IMO, but I suggest doing both. Went you do bent over rows instead of upright it hits more back less shoulders. I do not do upright rows since they don't feel comfortable with my shoulders, but I've gotten pretty far with the bent overs and when I started going past rowing a plate my traps exploded.


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    Lol!
    Well, I guess I've only been back doing DL's for about a month after a year off for the SI joint injury. So maybe I just need to keep doing what I'm doing and those will come in time. Thanks for all your help though!
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    Originally Posted by freebirdmac View Post
    I think it may be your posing technique. Get your elbows up a bit higher and back a bit farther. Really focus on contracting your back. And don't turn your head. Take some more shots. Better lighting would help too.
    Ok, I'll give it a shot. The pics were not initially supposed to be muscle shots - we were just goofing around. Then I saw the pics and was like, hey, there's some muscles back there!
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    Originally Posted by oregonchick76 View Post
    Ok, I'll give it a shot. The pics were not initially supposed to be muscle shots - we were just goofing around. Then I saw the pics and was like, hey, there's some muscles back there!
    I really think a lot of the problem is the posing. It looks like you're flexing your arms pretty hard but your back is loose. You probably do have trap & rhomboid development, especially if you are deadlifting heavy & frequently - you just can't see it because of the pose and also potentially because of a little bit of fat and water.
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    Its your traps like everyone said. There is nothing there. I'm not sure its just a posing issue. I would suggest you do some shrugs, barbell upright rows, front raises, side lateral raises, military press, plate raises. Even dumb bell pull overs. I know people love their DLs and there are purist but sometimes when you have a lagging part you need to hit it directly on top of everything else. Also maybe do some middle back work.

    After all that it might be a structural issue.
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    Originally Posted by mommymakeover View Post
    Its your traps like everyone said. There is nothing there. I'm not sure its just a posing issue. I would suggest you do some shrugs, barbell upright rows, front raises, side lateral raises, military press, plate raises. Even dumb bell pull overs. I know people love their DLs and there are purist but sometimes when you have a lagging part you need to hit it directly on top of everything else. Also maybe do some middle back work.
    Deadlifts have done wonders for my traps (unintentionally, it's not like I was asking them to grow!), but Oregon if you won't be deadlifting heavy for awhile ^^^those sound like great suggestions.
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    The posing isn't optimal, try taking better pics for accuracy (think back and arms have to be straight as if you're touching a wall). I might be off, but I'd say more traps and lats. I think your rear delts are fine, it's the posing that might make them seem like they're not. Nice arms!
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