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    Medhi Stronglifts 5x5

    So been reading up on the report of this 5x5 method and I was wondering whether anyone had tried this method and what they thought of it? Also, I will be coming back from arthroscopic surgery on my R shoulder so the idea of beginning with light weights seems good. Thanks in advance for any responses!
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    its a fine program
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    1.5 bw Bench
    2.0+ bw Squat
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    He took Starting Strength and added 2 extra sets to make it 5x5 instead of 3x5 suggested by Rippetoe.
    I would just get Mark's book and go with the original program.
    Medhi doesn't have any relevant fitness education or background as an athlete. Mark does, he's the man I'd trust, not some self proclaimed expert.

    There are other 5x5 programs from Bill Starr and modified and more popular from Madcow, but these are intermediate and advanced programs, the only thing in common with Medhi program is 5x5 in name, guess that what confuses a lot of people.
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    And link to Starting Strength wiki, most of the relevant stuff is there, but seriously, get the "Starting Strength" book and "Practical Programming"
    http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wi..._Strength_Wiki
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    while you may be correct Andrew_WOT, StrongLifts is a decent program for someone who isn't interested in learning the Power Clean. Mehdi also states to lower the sets to 3 after stalling and resetting
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    Originally Posted by dday39 View Post
    while you may be correct Andrew_WOT, StrongLifts is a decent program for someone who isn't interested in learning the Power Clean. Mehdi also states to lower the sets to 3 after stalling and resetting
    It is a decent program because he didn't bastardize it that much from the original and anything would work for the novice, it's just a matter of which one would work more effectively.
    Mark talks about substituting cleans for rows on wiki and his book. 5x5 volume in daily linear progression would work only with very light weights, which could be okay in suggested by Mehdi approach of starting with empty bar, but unless your are chronically weak that just a waste of precious life time.

    Stick with the classic, just don't get greedy with start weight, you'll stall in no time.

    So yes, it would work, because it's basically SS with the twist. Shame that Mehdi *forgot* to mention Rip's name as an *inspiration* for his program anywhere, making it look like something genuine, for that alone I wouldn't use it.
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    Cheers for the replies so far! A question I have, is why you would choose the original over Medhi's ? What is/are the advantages of perorming 3x5 as opposed to 3x5?
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    Originally Posted by ronburgundy131 View Post
    Cheers for the replies so far! A question I have, is why you would choose the original over Medhi's ? What is/are the advantages of perorming 3x5 as opposed to 3x5?
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    There is no magic number as long as you provide sufficient volume AND intensity. 3x5 will let you work with bigger weights (more intensity) and get out of the gym faster, also you'll stall faster trying to maintain 5x5 linear progression due to accumulated fatigue, and maintaining concentration for 5 sets at near max 5RM is much much harder. Thus Mehdi recommends switching to 3x5 after a while, I would suggest just starting heavier and do 3x5 off the bat, same effect but saves you time.
    And like a said there is really nothing magical in either program, both based on the same principle. Get a copy of Practical Programming if you are interested in physiological principles behind this type of programming.
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    I can say that once the weight starts to get up there, 5x5 becomes hard to recover from. I also found it mentally taxing squatting 3x a week with heavier and heavier weight. I did drop it down to 3x5 which was better but eventually moved onto a program that I like a lot better(5/3/1).
    My training log: https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=178464441
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    Awesome, thanks a lot for your help guys. Appreciate it! I shall take your advice Andrew
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