how can anyone believe he is natty, especially after he said he torn his acl/had surgery senior year? that kind of serious surgery would set your physique/strength way back
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07-19-2012, 04:50 PM #91
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07-19-2012, 04:54 PM #92
Typical kid with wide shoulders and good genetics. Nothing impressive IMHO, His training sucks as does his diet. Seriously does anyone believe thats his real diet? Without a pump he looks thin, no muscle density what so ever.
198lbs
goals:
205
8%bf
Notable lifting accomplishments:
2009- slp state meet 415 raw bench @181
Highest gym bench- 475x3 reps raw bench @ 203 (jan 2011)
Deadlift- 685 w/belt and chalk (gym lift)
Squat- 405 for reps (working on it)
I will be back and I will prevail.
'05'er, just had to make a new user name... fuuuuu
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07-19-2012, 05:11 PM #93
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07-19-2012, 06:16 PM #108
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07-19-2012, 06:17 PM #109
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07-19-2012, 06:23 PM #110
My younger brother has been training for about the same time as Jeff (he's one year younger) and he has a lot of mass (maybe even bigger than Jeff, but he's shorter) and a lot of people think he's on steroids and I can say 100% that he's not on steroids. And I don't consider myself or my brother have "elite genetics" by any standard. The reason my brother doesn't look as impressive as Jeff is because of genetics aka height, arm length, torso shape, chest shape, trap insertions, etc etc. So basically I'm saying there's a chance this guy is natural if he's been lifting for as long as he says and there's people in this world with crazy genetics (on the other side of the spectrum).
I wouldn't put my house on whether he is or isn't natty. just saying
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07-19-2012, 06:25 PM #111
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