should be a sticky imhoOriginally Posted by lasher
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07-09-2012, 04:11 PM #31R[̲̅ə̲̅٨̲̅٥̲̅٦̲̅]ution
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"Life is but a game, And once the game is over, the king and the pawn go back in the same box. No matter our nobility, we all emulate the same end. So take no pride in it, for it is but an illusion, we will reach upon the point where we will be judged standing alongside those we have commanded. Whether or not we treated them fairly predicts our outcome."
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07-09-2012, 04:13 PM #32Crypto-Theist Shill
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Someone is being mod WK'd :POriginally Posted by Jpenn89
But I agree about the sticky.'On many levels, mathematics itself operates as Whiteness. Who gets credit for doing and developing mathematics, who is capable in mathematics, and who is seen as part of the mathematical community is generally viewed as White' - Rochelle Gutierrez, Professor of Mathematics at the University of Illinois.
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07-09-2012, 04:32 PM #33R[̲̅ə̲̅٨̲̅٥̲̅٦̲̅]ution
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I am pretty sure trhey did it for the jimmy rustling that it inevitably caused.Originally Posted by lasher
I think it would be easier to keep up with and access as well as remember if it were always at the top with people posting XDStarting weight- May 14 2011- 184
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"Life is but a game, And once the game is over, the king and the pawn go back in the same box. No matter our nobility, we all emulate the same end. So take no pride in it, for it is but an illusion, we will reach upon the point where we will be judged standing alongside those we have commanded. Whether or not we treated them fairly predicts our outcome."
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07-09-2012, 04:39 PM #34On dat DL rehab time...
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Hm...Originally Posted by lasher
This is definitely english. It also appears that Jpenn89 understands you...
What is "mod wk'd"?
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07-09-2012, 04:41 PM #35Crypto-Theist Shill
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White Knighted.Originally Posted by Meatros
http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...t+white+knight
A bunch of mods on regular misc basically made a thread promising to rep girls for the sole purpose of rustling jimmies. It was pretty funny. Apparently Jpenn was a recipient of a gallant white knight mod rep, actually looks more like 2.'On many levels, mathematics itself operates as Whiteness. Who gets credit for doing and developing mathematics, who is capable in mathematics, and who is seen as part of the mathematical community is generally viewed as White' - Rochelle Gutierrez, Professor of Mathematics at the University of Illinois.
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07-09-2012, 04:42 PM #36On dat DL rehab time...
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As to a sticky, that sounds like a good idea.
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07-09-2012, 04:43 PM #37Crypto-Theist Shill
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I'm gonna PM team punishment to see if he'll do it.
'On many levels, mathematics itself operates as Whiteness. Who gets credit for doing and developing mathematics, who is capable in mathematics, and who is seen as part of the mathematical community is generally viewed as White' - Rochelle Gutierrez, Professor of Mathematics at the University of Illinois.
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07-09-2012, 04:45 PM #38On dat DL rehab time...
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Ah yes, I'm familiar with white knighting, for whatever reason I thought you were referring to some mod banning someone; a mod was 'working' someone or something. I've only had a one mod that I can remember give me reps and it was Alan Aragon in a thread suggesting books/people for reading about religion or something.Originally Posted by lasher
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07-09-2012, 04:45 PM #39
This thread should be interesting.
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07-09-2012, 04:48 PM #40Seriously Srs
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LOL stickied, sick.
Didn't think there was a chance...to be honest
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07-09-2012, 04:49 PM #41Crypto-Theist Shill
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Team Punishment sticked us.
Awesome mod is awesome.'On many levels, mathematics itself operates as Whiteness. Who gets credit for doing and developing mathematics, who is capable in mathematics, and who is seen as part of the mathematical community is generally viewed as White' - Rochelle Gutierrez, Professor of Mathematics at the University of Illinois.
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07-09-2012, 04:51 PM #42Seriously Srs
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The sticked thread should probably be a master, generic thread though, with info such as a list of completed books (with dates/intervals), current book, upcoming books/polls, poll nomination process, etc.
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07-09-2012, 04:52 PM #43Crypto-Theist Shill
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The first page could just be updated with that information too.Originally Posted by SheHadMANHands
Either way, let's at least get through book 1 before deciding on all that.'On many levels, mathematics itself operates as Whiteness. Who gets credit for doing and developing mathematics, who is capable in mathematics, and who is seen as part of the mathematical community is generally viewed as White' - Rochelle Gutierrez, Professor of Mathematics at the University of Illinois.
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07-09-2012, 04:53 PM #44On dat DL rehab time...
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Good job on contacting him.Originally Posted by lasher
I think we have a rough outline - people pick up the book this week and we have until the end of the month. Posting relevant comments, discussions in this thread until then.
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07-09-2012, 04:54 PM #45On dat DL rehab time...
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I think I can just update the first post with that information when it becomes available.Originally Posted by lasher
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07-10-2012, 08:15 AM #46Seriously Srs
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The sticky that killed the thread ..
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07-10-2012, 08:16 AM #47Crypto-Theist Shill
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lol. Nah. Gotta read to discuss. Finished chapter 1 last night.Originally Posted by SheHadMANHands
'On many levels, mathematics itself operates as Whiteness. Who gets credit for doing and developing mathematics, who is capable in mathematics, and who is seen as part of the mathematical community is generally viewed as White' - Rochelle Gutierrez, Professor of Mathematics at the University of Illinois.
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07-10-2012, 08:41 AM #48Deprogrammed
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In.
Will acquire and start this week.If you can't show it, you don't know it.
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07-10-2012, 05:58 PM #49Enemy of ignorance
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yay i have the book, already read chapter one. I also found another excellent companion book in the library this morning, if anyone is interesting in going beyond the call of duty.
Nov 04-fatass @40%bf
Jan 06- buff(apparently) @ ermm i dunno, still have a gut though,
long term goal= jacked @ 7% bf, get the damn abs to show themselves
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07-10-2012, 06:01 PM #50Crypto-Theist Shill
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name of companion book?Originally Posted by lucious
'On many levels, mathematics itself operates as Whiteness. Who gets credit for doing and developing mathematics, who is capable in mathematics, and who is seen as part of the mathematical community is generally viewed as White' - Rochelle Gutierrez, Professor of Mathematics at the University of Illinois.
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07-10-2012, 06:07 PM #51R[̲̅ə̲̅٨̲̅٥̲̅٦̲̅]ution
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This...Originally Posted by lasher
I just got the book today, going to get it all printed out and read it. what are we going to discuss, how much we like the cover art?Starting weight- May 14 2011- 184
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07-10-2012, 06:11 PM #52Enemy of ignorance
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Originally Posted by lasher
basically an exposition/collection of essays on the necessity of both philosophy and physics to formulate a complete understanding of space and time.
its pretty technical and difficult thoughNov 04-fatass @40%bf
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07-10-2012, 06:23 PM #53R[̲̅ə̲̅٨̲̅٥̲̅٦̲̅]ution
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I don't think my little brain can handle calculus and this at the same time... It might AsplodeOriginally Posted by lucious
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"Life is but a game, And once the game is over, the king and the pawn go back in the same box. No matter our nobility, we all emulate the same end. So take no pride in it, for it is but an illusion, we will reach upon the point where we will be judged standing alongside those we have commanded. Whether or not we treated them fairly predicts our outcome."
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07-10-2012, 06:42 PM #54Seriously Srs
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Don't start. I haven't gotten that far yet.Originally Posted by Jpenn89
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07-10-2012, 06:49 PM #55
Anyone want to recommend what they believe is the most compelling case for theism that they've read?
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07-10-2012, 08:16 PM #56I would recommend all of Gordon Clark's books (cf. his free articles here), but it depends on if you have specific questions or concerns as well as how much and the quality of apologetics you have been exposed to. Look at the table of contents in the following books to see what piques your interest (ordered according to type and personal preference):Originally Posted by Maiar
If you want a Christian view on the history of philosophy, try Thales to Dewey, Ancient Philosophy, or Modern Philosophy.
If you're looking for a short and simple defense of Christianity, see In Defense of Theology, The Scripturalism of Gordon H. Clark, Lord God of Truth & Concerning the Teacher, or God's Hammer.
If you're looking for more thorough defenses of Christianity, look at Clark and His Critics, A Christian View of Men and Things, A Christian Philosophy of Education, or Christian Philosophy.
If you just want free online resources, I would suggest Vincent Cheung's books Captive to Reason and Ultimate Questions. I would suggest reading the first 14 pages of his Presuppositional Confrontations, as that was my own first exposure to a well-presented defense of presuppositional apologetics.
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07-11-2012, 01:17 AM #57Deprogrammed
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Finished the first chapter. I'm going to try to relax my critical faculties a bit to accelerate my first pass, and really try to wrap my head around what WLC is saying, then go back with a more critical eye to prep for discussion mode.
If you can't show it, you don't know it.
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07-11-2012, 02:39 AM #58On dat DL rehab time...
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I just got through the first chapter as well. WLC presents the history and some of the problems that have traditionally come along with the territory, so that was nice. He also provided some biblical justification for some various views of time - it seemed to me that, taking a step back, the Bible could be used to justify either a timeless God or a temporal one. Quite the pickle, Biblically speaking, however I am aware of how Craig solves this dilemma, but it was still nice to see something other than philosophy show up.
He also brings up Davis' critiques against each (either timeless or temporal) as a good back drop and also what Stephen Hawkin has said with regard to imaginary time. Also, while I'm familiar with Ross, I was not aware that he had a position with regards to God and time, so I learned a bit there. Ross's views on the matter (that God exists in Hypertime if I read Craig correctly) are interesting. I might have to reread Craig's criticism though since it doesn't exactly flow in my head quite right (not surprising as this was the first time I'd heard of Ross's view).
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07-11-2012, 07:05 AM #59brb pwnin
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Dr Hugh Ross? Very interesting that he's getting a mention in the WLC book! Cool! Yes I've heard that they have different views of God/time.Originally Posted by Meatros
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07-11-2012, 12:34 PM #60Registered User
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Well, the only real question that has popped into my head through the first chapter (aside from when will I be done this chapter), was regarding what the context of the hebrew for some of the quoted Enoch passages he uses to justify his position... will eventually take a look, but if anybody wants to beat me to the punch I won't miss the research.
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