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    Question Just curious why atheists are atheists?

    I'm a Christian, but in no way hate atheists. I'm just curious why do you believe there is no God?
    I've seen many posts asking why us Christians believe in God, or other religious believe.
    But I'm curious why you believe what you do.

    No hate.
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    No evidence whatsoever for a God.

    History showing every religion is simply a "God of the Gaps" argument.
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    Originally Posted by Jalexander1994 View Post
    I'm a Christian, but in no way hate atheists. I'm just curious why do you believe there is no God?
    I've seen many posts asking why us Christians believe in God, or other religious believe.
    But I'm curious why you believe what you do.

    No hate.
    Atheists on here don't "believe" in anything so exceptional without empiricism.

    We aren't making a claim whether there is or is not a god.

    What you are not understanding is that atheism is the concept of theism -- not gnosticism in regard to ontology.

    Why not use the term gnostic adeist and see how many responses you get.
      
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    I'm an atheist so I can sin and not feel guilt about disobeying gods law.
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    Originally Posted by Harbinger View Post
    I'm an atheist so I can sin and not feel guilt about disobeying gods law.
    What if the god is "evil" and wants you to "sin" and thus your are obeying "gods law."
      
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    What if the god is "evil" and wants you to "sin" and thus your are obeying "gods law."
    That's a double win good sir.
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    Originally Posted by Harbinger View Post
    I'm an atheist so I can sin and not feel guilt about disobeying gods law.
    But doesn't that just show how selfish we are as humans?

    & what if God is real, how're you going to explain why you did the things you've done?
    I mean, hey I'm in no way saying I'm perfect, I'm far from it but yeah.
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    Originally Posted by Jalexander1994 View Post
    But doesn't that just show how selfish we are as humans?

    & what if God is real, how're you going to explain why you did the things you've done?
    I mean, hey I'm in no way saying I'm perfect, I'm far from it but yeah.
    If he is real, he will forgive my sins and take me in as a loving father.
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    Well, to put it short from my experience with a varity of atheists. There are different reasons for atheism or agnosticism. I don't know one person who is agnostic or atheist that isn't truly happier.

    Some people have hardships that make them turn away from God at young ages. Some simply never truly believe even though they practice the religion. Some people are multicultural and are split religiously and choose not to pick one. Some don't like what their religion represents or does.

    Whatever the reason, the end result is a liberated state of mind that you're a free-thinker where you can actually rationalize existence on your own. Not all Atheists are free-thinkers.

    When you grow up indoctrinated as a crutch, it is quite difficult to rationalize parts of society without God or that social construct(atheists can indoctrinate too). It is a long process to becoming a free-thinker, you're basically being reborn again. Some things you thought were so wrong, you will think they're so right, while other things that were so right are now so wrong.
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    Atheism is described as more of a movement than a belief or lack thereof. It is more accurate I think to say anti-theism. Anti-theism doesn't believe in the supernatural because there is no substantiated evidence that indicates such a thing. There is actually perfectly validated scientific explanations for many claims in the bible and has even disproved many claims such as the age of the Earth/Universe. etc...
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    Originally Posted by rws197 View Post
    Atheism is described as more of a movement than a belief or lack thereof. It is more accurate I think to say anti-theism. Anti-theism doesn't believe in the supernatural because there is no substantiated evidence that indicates such a thing. There is actually perfectly validated scientific explanations for many claims in the bible and has even disproved many claims such as the age of the Earth/Universe. etc...
    Do you even understand what "anti" means?
      
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    Originally Posted by rws197 View Post
    Atheism is described as more of a movement than a belief or lack thereof. It is more accurate I think to say anti-theism. Anti-theism doesn't believe in the supernatural because there is no substantiated evidence that indicates such a thing. There is actually perfectly validated scientific explanations for many claims in the bible and has even disproved many claims such as the age of the Earth/Universe. etc...
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    Originally Posted by Jalexander1994 View Post
    I'm a Christian, but in no way hate atheists. I'm just curious why do you believe there is no God?
    I've seen many posts asking why us Christians believe in God, or other religious believe.
    But I'm curious why you believe what you do.

    No hate.
    There's literally tens of thousands of gods you don't believe in, and you have to ask why people reject just one more?
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    Agnostic atheist checking in.

    I don't "believe there is no god" I just lack a positive belief for a god until I see some evidence.

    Honestly, there very well could be some sort of god or higher power out there, I don't know, but I'm pretty damn sure if there is one, it's not the christian god lol.
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    Originally Posted by Stizzel View Post
    There's literally tens of thousands of gods you don't believe in, and you have to ask why people reject just one more?
    This.

    Why do you reject Thor, or Zeus, or the Flying Spaghetti Monster OP?

    The same reasons you reject those for, I reject your god for.
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    Originally Posted by Stizzel View Post
    There's literally tens of thousands of gods you don't believe in, and you have to ask why people reject just one more?
    Wow, two good posts and it's only June.

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    My belief or lack thereof is irrelevant. I accept the fact that no such thing as a god exists based on; a) an overwhelming lack of evidence and b) an overwhelming lack of logical coherence in any argument for god I have yet seen.

    It's like I don't "believe" in the speed of light - I accept the speed given based on various levels of evidence.
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    There is no logical reason to believe in any "God" of organized religions. I believe people follow religion for psychological reasons, not rational reasons. Nobody truly knows the answers that religion claims to have the answers for.
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    Grew up a christian, slowly lost faith over the years after seeing the world. There is zero evidence of a god so I came upon two possible conclusions

    1. There is no god

    2. If there is he's certainly not a benevolent all loving entity that cares about us. If we were created, the creator moved on a long time ago.
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    Originally Posted by Jalexander1994 View Post
    But doesn't that just show how selfish we are as humans?

    & what if God is real, how're you going to explain why you did the things you've done?
    I mean, hey I'm in no way saying I'm perfect, I'm far from it but yeah.
    I would sit down and begin a discussion using thought and reason. I would show how we were given no evidence whatsoever to believe in a creator, if the evidence existed I would have no problem in changing my mind. I am a good person and if he just expected me follow some bull**** written 2000 years ago then how was I suppose to know it was the right religion to follow? why not Mohammed? Zeus? the decision would solely be based on what my parents beliefs were when I was a child.

    I am sure he would laugh and say "ok get inside *******, you got me this time".
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    Originally Posted by Jalexander1994 View Post
    But doesn't that just show how selfish we are as humans?

    & what if God is real, how're you going to explain why you did the things you've done?
    I mean, hey I'm in no way saying I'm perfect, I'm far from it but yeah.
    If god is real, and I don't for a second believe he is. Then he already knows what kind of person I am and I figure we're cool.
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    Originally Posted by Jalexander1994 View Post
    But doesn't that just show how selfish we are as humans?

    & what if God is real, how're you going to explain why you did the things you've done?
    I mean, hey I'm in no way saying I'm perfect, I'm far from it but yeah.
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    I'm a Christian, but in no way hate atheists. I'm just curious why do you believe there is no God?
    I've seen many posts asking why us Christians believe in God, or other religious believe.
    But I'm curious why you believe what you do.

    No hate.
    It's easier than accepting accoutability and responsibility. I never have a reason to feel bad about anything I do because when I leave this life it doesn't matter who I screwed over... I'm just worm food.
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    It's easier than accepting accoutability and responsibility. I never have a reason to feel bad about anything I do because when I leave this life it doesn't matter who I screwed over... I'm just worm food.
    There's this little thing called empathy you experience when you're capable of thinking at a higher level than a rock.
    Don't get set into one form, adapt it and build your own, and let it grow, be like water. Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless, like water. Now you put water in a cup, it becomes the cup; You put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle; You put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend. - Bruce Lee
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    Originally Posted by Rune View Post
    There's this little thing called empathy you experience when you're capable of thinking at a higher level than a rock.
    Nobody can tell me to have empathy. I answer to myself. Empathy and Sympathy for people that will some day be worm food as well? They are simply my competition.
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    Originally Posted by AnotherBuckeye View Post
    Nobody can tell me to have empathy. I answer to myself. Empathy and Sympathy for people that will some day be worm food as well? They are simply my competition.
    See how that works out for you.
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    Originally Posted by Rune View Post
    See how that works out for you.
    So far so good. As long as I don't break any laws there is no consequence. God exists Im screwed, but so are most people athiest or not. Empathy wouldn't make any difference.
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