Are Peanuts a bad Bodybuilding Snack?

[tomc12365]

I know the question may seem dumb because peanuts are loaded with protein with no fat but peanuts have soy protein. Soy protein is thought to increase or maximize estrogen production in the body. Being a male body builder, I don't want my estrogen production to increase! What are your guy's thoughts?!

[1JFS3]

peanuts are very high in fat actually but they are good fats that are essential to your diet and growth. they are calorie dense so eat them in moderation, but they are in no way a bad snack.

[69cam]

No. I eat it a lot and I'm on a cut.

[TheSmack]

I know the question may seem dumb because peanuts are loaded with protein with no fat but peanuts have soy protein.

No. Full stop.

Nuts and nut butters have lots fat, but don't fear fat because it's essential to the body for the production and maintenance of healthy hormone levels (e.g., testosterone and HGH). Soy protein comes from soy, hence the name.

[neoxsupreme]

Peanuts become kind of a bad snack when they're the flavored kind with lots of sodium. Regular peanuts with no added salt are good though.

[dcbone30]

I know the question may seem dumb because peanuts are loaded with protein with no fat but peanuts have soy protein. Soy protein is thought to increase or maximize estrogen production in the body. Being a male body builder, I don't want my estrogen production to increase! What are your guy's thoughts?!

Peanuts have fat. Soy is thought (key word) to increase estrogen based on pseudo-science and is backed up by nothing. Eat away.

Peanuts become kind of a bad snack when they're the flavored kind with lots of sodium. Regular peanuts with no added salt are good though.

This is a dangerous statement in this forum. Sodium is nothing to worry about unless you have a condition or live a lifestyle in which you should watch your sodium intake.

[neoxsupreme]

Peanuts have fat. Soy is thought (key word) to increase estrogen based on pseudo-science and is backed up by nothing. Eat away.



This is a dangerous statement in this forum. Sodium is nothing to worry about unless you have a condition or live a lifestyle in which you should watch your sodium intake.

High sodium intake for a number of years is a risk factor for health conditions like hypertension. Are you saying that if someone is taking in like 3000 to 5000 mg of sodium a day but is hitting their macros that they shouldn't sweat the sodium? Sodium also makes you retain water so someone consuming a lot will have more retained fluids in their tissues which can affect muscle definition a little.

Sodium with peanuts is okay but I was just saying that unsalted peanuts are a little healthier choice.

Some cultures have high sodium in their diet already (Asian) so cutting out sodium from some foods helps a little.

[tomc12365]

Yeah, i think i got my proteins mixed up soy is completely different! A little off topic but i bought protein bars thinking that they would be a good in-between meal snack, but come to find out the main ingredient is soy protein -_-

[lee__d]

High sodium intake for a number of years is a risk factor for health conditions like hypertension. Are you saying that if someone is taking in like 3000 to 5000 mg of sodium a day but is hitting their macros that they shouldn't sweat the sodium? Sodium also makes you retain water so someone consuming a lot will have more retained fluids in their tissues which can affect muscle definition a little.

Sodium with peanuts is okay but I was just saying that unsalted peanuts are a little healthier choice.

Some cultures have high sodium in their diet already (Asian) so cutting out sodium from some foods helps a little.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...o6mRDYSHeGByyw

Myth #5: “Salt causes high blood pressure and should be avoided.”
In the 1940s, a Duke University researcher named Walter Kempner, M.D., became famous for using salt restriction to treat people with high blood pressure. Later, studies confirmed that reducing salt could help reduce hypertension.


What science really shows:
Large-scale scientific reviews have determined there’s no reason for people with normal blood pressure to restrict their sodium intake. Now, if you already have high blood pressure, you may be “salt sensitive.” As a result, reducing the amount of salt you eat could be helpful.However, it’s been known for the past 20 years that people with high blood pressure who don’t want to lower their salt intake can simply consume more potassium-containing foods.
Why?
Because it’s really the balance of the two minerals that matters. In fact, Dutch researchers determined that a low potassium intake has the same impact on your blood pressure as high salt consumption does. And it turns out, the average guy consumes 3,100 milligrams (mg) of potassium a day—1,600 mg less than recommended.

The bottom line:
Strive for a potassium-rich diet, which you can achieve by eating a wide variety of fruits, vegetables, and legumes. For instance, spinach, broccoli, bananas, white potatoes, and most types of beans each contain more than 400 mg potassium per serving.

[snorkelman]

High sodium intake for a number of years is a risk factor for health conditions like hypertension. Are you saying that if someone is taking in like 3000 to 5000 mg of sodium a day but is hitting their macros that they shouldn't sweat the sodium? Sodium also makes you retain water so someone consuming a lot will have more retained fluids in their tissues which can affect muscle definition a little.

Sodium with peanuts is okay but I was just saying that unsalted peanuts are a little healthier choice.

Some cultures have high sodium in their diet already (Asian) so cutting out sodium from some foods helps a little.

What if the person ingested 8,000 mg of potassium per day?

[mrh0rnet]

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...o6mRDYSHeGByyw

No offense but alan aragon isn't someone im going to take advice from when it comes to whether I should be cautious with sodium or not. I've never understood why people on here act like sodium and cholesterol isn't a big deal as long as you hit your macros either. For a rather large portion of the population that's simply NOT the case. But I won't get into a debate about it.. sodium isn't only an issue for those that have a pre-existing condition though and I wish people would stop alluding to that.

Go ahead and eat 5,000 mg of salt everyday and see how well that plays out for you in 10 years. Most of the dudes here are young at the moment and it may not apply to them currently, but eating like that everyday for a long period of time eventually it will.

[lee__d]

No offense but alan aragon isn't someone im going to take advice from when it comes to whether I should be cautious with sodium or not. I've never understood why people on here act like sodium and cholesterol isn't a big deal as long as you hit your macros either. For a rather large portion of the population that's simply NOT the case. But I won't get into a debate about it.. sodium isn't only an issue for those that have a pre-existing condition though and I wish people would stop alluding to that.

Go ahead and eat 5,000 mg of salt everyday and see how well that plays out for you in 10 years. Most of the dudes here are young at the moment and it may not apply to them currently, but eating like that everyday for a long period of time eventually it will.

ok.

[snorkelman]

I've never understood why people on here act like sodium and cholesterol isn't a big deal as long as you hit your macros either. For a rather large portion of the population that's simply NOT the case.

Maybe because we are not that obese portion of the population. Also, perhaps knowledge has something to do with it.



See, Are the Current Dietary Guidelines Regarding Egg Consumption Appropriate? Kristin L. Herron and Maria Luz Fernandez. J. Nutr. 134:187-190, January 2004 Full text at: http://jn.nutrition.org/content/134/1/187.full

[MNTiburon]

What if the person ingested 8,000 mg of potassium per day?

Whatever floats your boat, but I wouldn't recommend it.

http://www.cdc.gov/Features/dsSodium/

[zed888]

I remember readin jason ferrugia said peanut butter releases some 'bad' toxins in body so he doesnt have it.

I cant post a link as i have less than 50 posts
Please google jason ferrugia peanut butter toxins and first one thats up

Does anyone know what toxins??

I still eat it regardless . I need to cut other junk from my diet before i worry bout the toxins lol :-p

[Nctong01]

Aflatoxin. High consumption has been linked to hepatic issues.

[Gemuadrken]

OP; If you like them then fit them into your diet

If you don't like them then stay away from them.

No specific food is necessary to a healthy diet.

[gb8719]

Aflatoxin. High consumption has been linked to hepatic issues.

Any links to studies showing how much?

I eat 2-3 tablespoons a day and have vasovagal issues from time to time.

[SLO]

No offense but alan aragon isn't someone im going to take advice from when it comes to whether I should be cautious with sodium or not. I've never understood why people on here act like sodium and cholesterol isn't a big deal as long as you hit your macros either. For a rather large portion of the population that's simply NOT the case. But I won't get into a debate about it.. sodium isn't only an issue for those that have a pre-existing condition though and I wish people would stop alluding to that.

Go ahead and eat 5,000 mg of salt everyday and see how well that plays out for you in 10 years. Most of the dudes here are young at the moment and it may not apply to them currently, but eating like that everyday for a long period of time eventually it will.

That's because a rather large % of the population is... rather large because they eat too many calories, which is easy to do if you eat a lot of processed and calorically dense foods. These "dirty" foods often contain lots of sodium, and most fat people drink lots of soda and not enough water which only exacerbates the problem.

Is lots of sodium good? No. But I think it's the poor dietary choices fatties make (which, again, often have lots of sodium) that is leading to all the health issues. Correlation does not equal causation.

[esgibson]

I know the question may seem dumb because peanuts are loaded with protein with no fat but peanuts have soy protein. Soy protein is thought to increase or maximize estrogen production in the body. Being a male body builder, I don't want my estrogen production to increase! What are your guy's thoughts?!

calorie dense so eat in moderation. not a bad bodybuilding food though

[bharatbookburea]

Peanuts are a good source of protein and also contain monounsaturated fat.
The benefit of monounsaturated fat is the fact that it can reduce cholesterol levels and lower the possibility of heart risks and diseases. In comparison to carbohydrate diets, monounsaturated fats can help lose your belly fat.

[Chad31275]

That's because a rather large % of the population is... rather large because they eat too many calories, which is easy to do if you eat a lot of processed and calorically dense foods. These "dirty" foods often contain lots of sodium, and most fat people drink lots of soda and not enough water which only exacerbates the problem.

Is lots of sodium good? No. But I think it's the poor dietary choices fatties make (which, again, often have lots of sodium) that is leading to all the health issues. Correlation does not equal causation.

"FATTIES", thats funny shiot.

[AlwaysTryin]

In comparison to carbohydrate diets, monounsaturated fats can help lose your belly fat.

What? Sounds like you're saying diets with carbs don't lose fat..

[Azrairc]

this thread went full retard

As for peanuts I think its a waste because of the calorie/satiety .. brb eating 7 peanuts 200 calories

[Cazax]

No. Full stop.

Nuts and nut butters have lots fat, but don't fear fat because it's essential to the body for the production and maintenance of healthy hormone levels (e.g., testosterone and HGH). Soy protein comes from soy, hence the name.

Peanuts are legumes not nuts..

[mattypoole]

Maybe because we are not that obese portion of the population. Also, perhaps knowledge has something to do with it.



See, Are the Current Dietary Guidelines Regarding Egg Consumption Appropriate? Kristin L. Herron and Maria Luz Fernandez. J. Nutr. 134:187-190, January 2004 Full text at: http://jn.nutrition.org/content/134/1/187.full

This.

Eating more cholesterol than I did when younger (because I bought into this bro science nonsense that dietary cholesterol is something to fear, same with fat - derp) and my readings for bad cholesterol are low.

Also gone for extended periods eating high sodium and still never had issues with high blood pressure.

this thread went full retard

Repped.

As for peanuts I think its a waste because of the calorie/satiety .. brb eating 7 peanuts 200 calories

I love peanuts but avoid them for the same reason, unfortunately being on a cut means I have to watch my intake of calorie dense foods, especially if they don't offer much satiety.

[69cam]

this thread went full retard

As for peanuts I think its a waste because of the calorie/satiety .. brb eating 7 peanuts 200 calories

That's why I don't eat it much on a cut..... but oh when I start my bulk.

[mrh0rnet]

Maybe because we are not that obese portion of the population. Also, perhaps knowledge has something to do with it.



See, Are the Current Dietary Guidelines Regarding Egg Consumption Appropriate? Kristin L. Herron and Maria Luz Fernandez. J. Nutr. 134:187-190, January 2004 Full text at: http://jn.nutrition.org/content/134/1/187.full

The thing is, for every study people post here there are just as many that state the contrary. And you are aware that high blood pressure nor high cholesterol necessarily = obesity right? Strong misconceptions. African Americans for example, deal with both more than anyone else due to genetics. Has necessarily nothing to do with being obese, thus me saying what people post here does NOT apply to everyone. And making a blanket statement like cholesterol and sodium aren't major factors other than retaining water are pretty dangerous generalizations.

[machineheadrock]

Really interesting thread about everyone arguing about sodium and potassium levels

I would have to say that the consensus of this must be, everything in moderation. Too much salt will make you dry, dehydrated and retension will be inevitable

Too much potassium will give you GERD and Vasovagal reactions....

Too much or too little of something will always have a negative impact, you need to understand how to listen to your body, and understand what it needs

At the end of the day, you try and flood it with something, its more clever than you think, it will take what it needs and get rid of the rest through your pores and your faeces and pee.

Furthermore, you dont think that we developed to this advanced race, without having some sort of filter mechanism built into us? The human body is an amazing thing, our liver, our kidkeys etc will always help protect us from what we are putting too much of into our bodies.

You wil retain what you need to retain, if you are exercising properly and eating a healthy diet, you dont need to supplement your diet, you shouldn't have to. Whether or not you choose to to see if it gives you gains is a different matter. Increasing your intake because your expenditure increases is also a different matter, but it is possible to do this through normal eating as well, without all this fake nonsense.

Also, the body understands the difference between synthetic and natural minerals, vitamins, etc. It will dispose of synthetics sometimes, assuming that there is something wrong with you for you to try and make it absorb so much.

[RoryFan]

The 'ol sodium =/= potassium argument. As with everything I think moderation is the key, It's fine to eat a **** load of sodium if you are going to off set that with pottasium but I find it really hard to find good sources of potassium with a low sugar content and dat dere diabetes runs in the family :'(