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    Originally Posted by Freshestguyever View Post
    2400 is too much your like 160 you suppose to have 1500 calaries
    Most calculators I use put me at 2100, shouldn't have said it was maintenance cause its not, but most of the week I Was below 2000 anyways.
    Link me to a better calculator if you disagree with that estimate, I'm willing to hear you out
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    Been like a week and a half and my shoulder is feeling better today (still can't fully turn head but its not nearly as bad) so I thought I would hit a light chest tris workout... and LIGHT it was lol. Feel like I lost some stamina, but I also slept 8 hours of the last 48 so who knows.

    DB Bench
    50s x 15
    60 for sets of 9, 6, 5- See normally I would get a couple sets of 10 before failing at 6, so I definitely lost some stamina.

    BB bench
    135 for 2x6
    Weak even considering I had just done DB, however I do feel like I pushed it here, I wanted to quit at like 4 reps but forced out the last two.

    Dips
    10, 10, 7? - Don't remember last set exactly.

    Straight bar push down
    3x10

    Then some pec deck


    ALSO: I started and ended my workout with some rotator cuff work. I have never done rotator cuff work so I was wondering if that could have lead to the recent injury. I'm gonna work on stretching my shoulders and rotator cuff work a bit and see if that helps. Makes me wonder if I should start doing some hip flexor work to just to be safe.
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    Originally Posted by carnage1985 View Post
    use this spreadsheet cuzz

    Attachment 5053173

    Diet is all mental - prepare your meals everyday.



    Was this a chest and 1 tricep day?

    Needsmorevolume/10

    On shoulder day I always warm up with some DB lateral raises to get the rotator cuff loose for heavy OH pressing??
    I agree on the volume, but I had to run home to finish my paper and clinical journal, only checked this because I was checking my emails for something I need for the paper lol. I'm going to change up my shoulder routine this week to try and not aggravate the problem (seems to be aggravated whenever I try to over head press) so I'm gonna focus on raises and maybe upright rows, fill the rest of the day in with arms.

    Alright I go to the gym 4 days a week for about an hour a day, but other than that I'm either at work or at school (work is just standing around mostly) so I put my activity level as sedentary, does that sound about right? Gave me 1950 calories as maintenance. So for a bulk I would shoot for 2300? Cut obviously anything below 1950
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    Originally Posted by carnage1985 View Post
    Try lightweight high rep OHP pressing if sore.

    Look up DB Arnold Presses, Kolokov Presses or even use a smith machine to minimise risk of injury.
    Do little 3way supersets ie 8 x DB front raises into 8x DB lateral raises into 8x DB rear bent over flys

    How old are you?
    Height, weight?
    ecto?
    21
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    158
    Lol no, probably endomorph. I've been trying to eat a very small surplus because I've always gained fat easily. In the summer I was working out a lot (6 days lifting plus running training) so 2700- 3000 calories was a very small deficit, I didn't take the lowered activity level into play so I've been eating to much for the last month and a half as someone pointed out (realized it myself the other day when I couldn't see abs at all when not flexed but I could a bit in the summer).
    Lowered calories to 2100 for now, going to add in cardio, cleaning up diet already.

    As for the shoulders, I'll try high rep light weight, good idea, but I think I'll focus on raises this week, get some blood flowing to the area.
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    Good back day, I had to change up my lifts because I found some of the stuff I normally do bothers my shoulder right now (although it has improved drastically), so I focused on what wasn't bothering me, which was luckily dead lifts.

    Back Day

    Pull ups
    10, 7,6- Not amazing but I was going to failure on every set so the rep drop made sense

    Dead lifts
    135 x 15?
    225 x 10 - PR, I think my old PR was 8 reps
    275 for 3, 3, 2
    225 x 8- Tore these from the ground fast as phuck, surprised I had so much endurance left

    BB row
    135 x 8- Shoulder flared up at these so I said I left it at that

    Cable row
    16 plates- x8
    x6 --> Immediate drop set to 14 plate x 5
    x6 ---> 14 x5
    14 plate- 2x6

    Close grip lat pull down
    150 lbs for 6, 4,4 - Forearms just wouldn't let me hold the handle anymore
    120 lbs x 4- Forearms literally finished

    DB curls
    35lbs- 4, 3, 3
    30 lbs - 6 reps (dropped weight for a second because I couldn't hold them) 3
    5 (dropped down) 2 (dropped) 2
    4 (drop) 2 (drop) 2 (drop)

    Machine concentration curl
    3 sets of slow reps up and down, squeezing at the top. Very little weight at this point

    Felt like a good work out, threw up in my mouth a little at one point but pushed through. Diet has been much cleaner and I think that helped with the dead lifts today. Hoping to hit 275 x5 again soon, then push for 295 x3, then the long term goal of 315 x 1 to be reached.
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    Originally Posted by carnage1985 View Post
    At the end of the day the best to way to find maintenace is trial & error.
    As long as you understand the concept behind bulking & cutting.

    Read this article from Layne Norton on cutting mate

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    Good work fella.
    Every session needs to be tough - always push yourself to breaking point, because the next time your breaking point will be that little bit higher and that os how you make gains.
    Shock the muscle into growing.
    Also make sure you disregard weights and acquire form.

    I know guys who can BB curl 130lb for reps and look like crap.
    Then i see guys doing 80lb strict slow curls with monster biceps.
    Remember that for every lift (except deadlifts farrrking rip them off the ground with whatever it takes )

    reps on RC bro - keep it up
    My form is tight for the most part, I dont even think about lifting the bar up when benching until I got my shoulder blades in place, feet where I want them, and just feel tight all around, annoyed the **** out of spotters lol. The DB curls I were good form tonight, its just that my forearms were done so I had to keep putting them down for a couple seconds.
    I'm 5'7, Dead lifts are like made for me lol. Felt amazing tonight since I finally found something that didn't bother my shoulder, so I just milked the phuck out of it.
    Either legs or shoulders and arms (probably a mediocre shoulder workout though) tomorrow depending on how my lower back holds up from today.
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    Originally Posted by carnage1985 View Post
    ok - get those forearms stronger of find an exercise/weight where the bicep fails first.
    Isolate that sh!t

    Those deads are good mate - what is your PR?
    I'm hitting deads tonight - goin for a PR

    What is your split?
    So do back, then biceps, then forearms? I've been thinking about starting forearms (well I know I need to after my last couple back workouts) but I'm not sure how to incorporate it.

    PR was in late May or June when I was cutting, I was 152 lbs and pulled 295x 1, got the second rep half way up. One of the top 3 more amazing feelings I've experienced without exaggerating. But I snapped up my knee when I was wasted and had to stop for a bit, but on top of that snap up I was training for tough mudder and I found the 5-10 mile a day runs to be to much when incorporated with squats and deads so I made the foolish mistake of stopping for a month. I still regret it, but I'm almost back to where I was.

    Sadly my split gets pretty messed up because in nursing school they like to add assignments, change due dates, put skills testing in randomly, but the basic outline is this:

    Day 1: Shoulders/ traps
    Standing OHP (goal here is to always get a PR)
    DB shoulder press 6-10 reps super set The Rack (25 lb db, 20 lb db, 15 lb db lateral raises) x 10 reps each weight-> I think I've seen you in the Trifecta log so you probably know I stole this idea from Exane, first time I've ever been able to get a shoulder pump was from this
    Up right row Super set front raises OR Hammer strength behind the neck shoulder press depending on how my shoulder joint feels
    BB shrugs- Thinking about doing DB shrugs because I find this motion very unnatural for me

    Day 2: Legs
    Squats- Pyramid set up to 3 rep max followed by drop set.
    Leg press- 3-4 pyramiding sets
    One additional leg exercise
    Standing calve raises
    cable crunches super set leg raises or weighted decline sit ups

    Day 3: Chest
    Bench- Pyramiding sets to 3-5 rep max and drop set
    Incline DB 3-4 sets 6-10 reps
    Decline bench or dips
    Close grip bench
    Push downs

    Back
    Dead lift- Pyramid to 3-5 rep max
    BB row- 3-4 sets 6-10 reps
    Pull ups (may come before bb row or after) 3 sets
    DB rows or cable rows
    Close grip pull downs
    DB curls
    One additional curl

    You called me out for my workouts on page 4 and I agree they were awful, but in all honesty its been a pretty awful couple weeks for me so the gym wasn't my top priority. I do need to get more serious though.
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    Maybe I should fill in my goals too..

    My main goal has always been strength (When I started I was doing DB bench with 20 lbs for 5 reps and dead lifting 135 x...did I even get 1?) so as of right now these are my top priorities:
    SOHP 135x1
    Bench 205x 1
    Squat 225x 3
    Dead lift 315 x 1
    Obviously I want size to, but to hold 135 over my head is like a dream to me, and a 315 dead lift would make me cum in my pants.
    I have nerve damage on my left thumb that hinders my dead lift and back work, and a lower back problem that makes me scared to max on squats ever.
    So theres the background information for you 3 that have followed my log for months, and any new comers that would like to join us.
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    As I promised, a mediocre shoulder workout, was hard to find things that didn't cause pain but I found a few, then focused on arms a bit.

    Shoulders/ Arms

    Lateral raises
    15 lbs x 20
    20 lbs x 20
    25 lbs x 15, 15, 12

    Front raises Super set rear delt flies
    Front- 20 lbs for 3x12 Rear- 20 lbs 3x10

    Hammerstrength behind the neck shoulder press
    45lb plate for 3x6

    BB curl
    70lbs 3x6 (PR)

    Cable curl
    3x10 (not sure how to judge the weight since the plates are un marked, just made sure the 10th rep was hard)

    machine preacher curl
    2x8

    Skull crushed (Barbell)
    70 lbs x 6 (PR), 12 (Awful spotter, I did super slow negatives when I realized how **** he was so it actually ended up being really hard), 5 (spotter didn't touch until I asked him to this time)

    DB behdind the neck extensions
    45 lbs 2x6

    Push downs super set behind the back wrist curls
    3x 12 on push downs, 3x15 on wrist curls

    Glad I got a little shoulder stimulation in, not a ton though.
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    Originally Posted by MilkBender View Post
    strong lateral raises
    Man I remember when I thought 10 lb db raises were hard as phuck. and I literally couldn't do rear delt flies with the 5 lb dbs. I think I got really good at it from cheat lateral raises though, like I would grab 35s and do a mini hop half way through or at the beginning and control the descent. My presses are wear (Best ive ever done is 125x3 on BB seated) but my raises are solid.
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    Originally Posted by MilkBender View Post
    strong lateral raises
    Btw man your new pic makes you look much bigger. Like, I didn't recognize you when I repped you yesterday. Good stuff.

    Btw my chest is sore as phuck from Tuesday, and my back is hard to move right now. These have been good work outs.
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    Sup MISC brah.

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    Name's familiar, you in the clean bulk crew?

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    Forearms are insanely sore, and thats just from 3 sets of 15... This was a good idea to work on isolating them, hoping this will help my back work.
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    Originally Posted by carnage1985 View Post
    sup

    If you do cheat DB lateral raises then same day do a strict isolator like lying DB lat riaes with a 10lb dumbell.

    Nerve damage in thumb stopping you deadlift?
    Is this real life?

    Why do you make excuses for yourself?
    Fit life around the gym/diet.

    Can't get to the gym?
    do BW squats, pushups, CG pushups, burpies, lunges, dips, pullups.

    I'll never forget the day when i just was never getting the results i wanted and my best mate said to me:

    'Mate you don't work hard in there - you're just messing around'
    20lb and below are all strict form on lateral raises, I was saying that I think I built up strength by doing cheat raises for a long time. However the 25s are probably strict for like 6 then a little cheating.
    And no the thumb thing hasnt held me back on dead lifts in a long time, but it did for a solid 6 months before (couldn't bend at the knuckle).
    All better, having good workouts now, back and arms are still insanely sore. Getting close to matching my old prs then ill make sure to pass them.
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    Went to the gym with my friend (Groundwater for the person in this thread I know in RL) and he had hit legs already this week, so we did some chest and tris for fun. Shoulder doesn't bother me on anything dumbell, but the barbell didn't go so well. So for the next couple weeks I might just focus on using dumbell for my low rep sets.

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    135 x 10 (Paused at the bottom for 1 second and exploded up just to see how it felt)
    185 x 3
    175 x4, 4>>> 155 (funny thing happened, my friend took off 2 of the 10 lb plates, I only wanted one off and I got hte other side, so I picked it up and it was super uneven, did a couple reps but the awkwardness made me stop, then we realized what I did) x 2 [fixed mistake] x4 >>> 135 x6
    DB incline
    65x2- never attempted that weight before, I just wanted to see if I could do it since I had a spotter with me anyways
    50 x 10, 10, 8, 6
    DB flat
    50 x8, 8, 6
    40x 9
    Incline hammer strength
    Friend could only do a 25 lb plate on each side, so I just did high reps to failure to get some blood flowing
    20, 15, 12,12
    Cable cross overs
    45 lbs x 12, 12
    30 lbs x 12, 12, 10
    Skull crushers
    70 lbs x 6, 6>>> 50 lbs x 6
    50 lbs x 6
    Dips
    BW 2x6
    Push downs
    3 sets with straight bar super set one arm rope push downs
    2 sets with robe (both hands)

    Triceps sore as phuck after this.
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    been only goin 3 days a week, school takin ovaaahhhh, kinda dissapointed. hurt my lower back on monday because of deadlifts, tried to think Iam kobe and set a new pr but didnt happen. Gym makin me real tired of late, after a workout the rest of a day, i am a zombie, was forced to take a nap because i was soo tired, now its gunna be late night studying. Gym is like taking another class tbh really hard to balance out everything.
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    your bench is getting pretty high


    at least in my standards lol
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    Originally Posted by eltwentyone View Post
    been only goin 3 days a week, school takin ovaaahhhh, kinda dissapointed. hurt my lower back on monday because of deadlifts, tried to think Iam kobe and set a new pr but didnt happen. Gym makin me real tired of late, after a workout the rest of a day, i am a zombie, was forced to take a nap because i was soo tired, now its gunna be late night studying. Gym is like taking another class tbh really hard to balance out everything.
    Lol man, dat feel I understand. I'm in a course that is 6 days a week with weekly exams and a weekly quiz along with extra assignments for clinical and multiple skills testing (pass injections, got either catheter insertion of complex dressing change coming up on the 19th) so this whole semester has been week on the gym.
    Makes me appreciate it more though, I just genuinely enjoy working out, but I know I have better results when I go more often. Whenever I do PHAT during the summer I feel great.
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    Originally Posted by MilkBender View Post
    your bench is getting pretty high


    at least in my standards lol
    Lol, in the summer it was up to 185 for 4 or 5, I forget the exact max, it's probably mentioned in here a dozen times though. 135x15 a week or two ago was me setting a goal I had for a long time now, felt good.
    What's your bench right now? Wtf happened to your log? I was fapping to that **** so hard.
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    Tonight's workout was kind of rushed because I was driving my friend and he had to go at 1030 or w/e so we just did what was important and got out, I might do a little more back tomorrow to make up for it, but I think I'll be sore as is.

    Back day

    Dead lifts
    135x10
    185x10
    205 x5 (my friend maxes out here, so we left a 45 and a 35 on each side and I just added weights based on those first two plates)
    255 (25 on each side) x 5
    275 x 5 (Goal for the day was this)
    285x 3, 1 >>>> Immediate drop set after the 1 rep set>>> 255 x 3
    205 x 8 (3 reps over double overhand, PR for double over hand)
    185 x 5? (double over hand)
    Chin ups
    9,7,6
    Then we did like 3 sets of seated rows and had to dip. Not bad day, hit a PR on dead lift, hit my goals. Decent overall
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    Did some arms today, didn't intend to go to the gym but said phuck it and hit this up.

    BB curl
    45lbs x 15
    70 x6 Super set rope pull downs for 15 reps
    70x6 SS rope pull down x 15
    70x5 SS rope pull down x 15

    DB curls
    35 lbs x4 (to heavy) SS dips x 10
    30 lbs x 8 SS dips x 10
    30lbs x 8 SS dips x 10
    30 lbs x 6 SS dips x 10

    BB close grip bench
    95 lbs x 10 SS reverse grip curls 55 lbs x 8
    95 lbs x 10 SS " " 55 lbs x 8
    95 lbx x 7? SS " " 55lbs x 6

    DB hammer curls
    25 lbs x 8 SS behind the back wrist curls 60 lbs x 20
    25 x 8 SS " " " 60 lbs x 17
    25 lbs x8 SS " " " 60 lbs x 15
    I basically just went to failure on the behind the back wrist curls. Really only doing them to improve my grip and stamina for back sessions.
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    Took a couple of progress pics, I got paler unfortunately, but its Canada, what do you want?
    Not much of a difference, but cleaning up diet and hitting the gym harder than ever.

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    Just realized I didn't record my last squat session, not sure why. But did legs again today, knee really bothering me so I dropped the weight and did what I could, did some accessory work.

    Squat
    135 for 2x10
    185 for 2x5
    155 for 1x8
    135x8

    Leg press
    3 plates x 20
    4 plates x 12
    3 plates x 15

    45 lbs on back walking lunges
    6 times back and fourth about 12-15 steps each?
    Glutes are so sore from this last one.
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    Originally Posted by Gibb1991 View Post
    Just realized I didn't record my last squat session, not sure why. But did legs again today, knee really bothering me so I dropped the weight and did what I could, did some accessory work.

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    135 for 2x10
    185 for 2x5
    155 for 1x8
    135x8

    Leg press
    3 plates x 20
    4 plates x 12
    3 plates x 15

    45 lbs on back walking lunges
    6 times back and fourth about 12-15 steps each?
    Glutes are so sore from this last one.
    No calves, leg curl, or leg extensions?
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    No calves, leg curl, or leg extensions?
    I did do 4 sets of calves afterwards but no isolations, leg extensions always hurt my knee even if I change where the foot rest is and go light. And dead lifts always murder my hamstrings on back day since I do a lot of volume on that exercise so I don't normally do leg curls.
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    Honestly, I didn't even wanna log this workout from yesterday, it was so phucking weak. My shoulder was acting up again (was getting better, dunno why it flared up) so this was my chit workout that I'm shamed to post.

    Chest (Had to get to school so it was just chest day)

    BB bench
    135 x 10, I noticed that the side of the effected shoulder went up slower than the non effected side, so I knew this wasn't going to be great but I thought I would try at least get 155x10
    155 x 4
    Dropped
    135x6

    DB incline
    60 x 6,5,5
    45x6

    DB flat
    55x 6,6,4?

    Cable cross overs
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    Not a bad session, light headed since I didn't eat much today so I ended up taking a bit longer rests.

    Back

    Dead lifts
    135x 10
    225x5
    285x2, 1 (chalking this one up to not eating enough, so I decided to hit some more volume)
    245 for 3x5
    So I lost out on the strength, but this was a decent session overall dead lift wise, practiced ripping the 245 fast off the floor, but the 5th rep was still difficult

    Chin ups
    8, 7,6

    Under hand bb rows
    95 lbs x 15
    115 x 12, 10

    Cable rows with two one hand grips into a V (so they pull apart a bit, saw this on a Rob Riches video, thought i would give it a shot)
    12 plates 3x10
    -very different feeling from the regular V bar rows
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    Lol, in the summer it was up to 185 for 4 or 5, I forget the exact max, it's probably mentioned in here a dozen times though. 135x15 a week or two ago was me setting a goal I had for a long time now, felt good.
    What's your bench right now? Wtf happened to your log? I was fapping to that **** so hard.
    still you're on dat school time, not much time to bodybuild. your arms also got bigger

    how does deadlifting 285 feel? I'm deadlifting 185x3 atm and it kills my hams/glutes/adductors lol




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