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    Do i need extra Amino Acids?

    Hi!

    I was wondering if i need to buy extra Amino Acid capsules? I'm asking this question because I am already taking Casein (before workout) and Whey (after workout), and I am told that there are AA's in both of them.

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    Edit: Both prottein shakes are from the brand "Gold Standard 100%"
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    Originally Posted by robbertdf View Post
    Hi!

    I was wondering if i need to buy extra Amino Acid capsules? I'm asking this question because I am already taking Casein (before workout) and Whey (after workout), and I am told that there are AA's in both of them.

    Thanks in advance,
    Robbert

    Edit: Both prottein shakes are from the brand "Gold Standard 100%"
    There is also BCAA in the protein you eat from whole foods. I would say there is no need for BCAA if your protein intake is sufficient.
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    Originally Posted by Anthony21 View Post
    There is also BCAA in the protein you eat from whole foods. I would say there is no need for BCAA if your protein intake is sufficient.
    Ahh good advise again. Your on a roll my friend.

    Listen to this guy. Nutrition is where you should get your extra amino acids not supp.
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    No real reason to use them unless you are training fasted or on a deep cut
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    Originally Posted by gallagnm View Post
    Ahh good advise again. Your on a roll my friend.

    Listen to this guy. Nutrition is where you should get your extra amino acids not supp.
    Just helping others so they can help themselves
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    Thanks a lot for the current replies, but what do you mean with ''fasted or on a deep cut training?''
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    No real reason to use them unless you are training fasted or on a deep cut
    Thanks!
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    Originally Posted by robbertdf View Post
    Thanks a lot for the current replies, but what do you mean with ''fasted or on a deep cut training?''


    Thanks!
    Fasted meaning no preworkout meal consumption prior to working out. Let me give you an example. Sunday's I wake up at 4:30am or 5am & head to the gym. The only thing I take is a preworkout supplement. In this case i'm in a fasted state with no food in my system.

    A deep cut would be eating below your caloric maintenance which leads to muscle loss in exchange for reducing bf%. Some go extreme with a 1,000+ caloric deficit.
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    Originally Posted by Anthony21 View Post
    A deep cut would be eating below your caloric maintenance which leads to muscle loss in exchange for reducing bf%. Some go extreme with a 1,000+ caloric deficit.
    And the only reason being in a severe calorie deficit becomes relevant during BCAA discussions is because when one is restricting calories, they may tend to drop below optimal amounts of protein. Now there are bros out there eating huge amounts of protein on a cut, and I doubt that they would see any real-world benefits from free form BCAAs when they are able to keep their protein levels adequate.
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    Originally Posted by Anthony21 View Post
    There is also BCAA in the protein you eat from whole foods. I would say there is no need for BCAA if your protein intake is sufficient.
    This times 1,000,000. Your diet is where you should be getting the majority of your nutrients from. Protein powders and other supps only fill gaps in which you are not getting from your diet. Do not look to supps as a whole source of nutrients for your body bro.
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    No, the average diet should provide enough. The only time I have ever noticed a diff is when I'm in prep phase like now with a macro deficit.
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    hmm wow.. okay.. This was very very helpfull Thanks for all the replies, I think i got it. Unless someone else has to add something to it
    Altho, I probably should've asked this earlier, before i ordered new BCAA.. :-/ Didnt exactly expect this stream of good advise so fast :s

    But yes, thanks a bunch everyone!
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    Originally Posted by snorkelman View Post
    And the only reason being in a severe calorie deficit becomes relevant during BCAA discussions is because when one is restricting calories, they may tend to drop below optimal amounts of protein. Now there are bros out there eating huge amounts of protein on a cut, and I doubt that they would see any real-world benefits from free form BCAAs when they are able to keep their protein levels adequate.
    A lot tend to drop carbs and up their protein intake and like you said could result in BCAA not being needed.
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