Nut Misc "Do You Even Lift?" Thread Part II

[SnatchKinGZZZ]

What do you squat and deadlift?

looking to hit 396.832072 x1 pounds this wednesday in squat(olympic highbar) and dont deadlift during rugby season, but hit a 440lb(ugly) x1 like 3 months ago,
more into my oly lifts

[ErickStevens]

Jason - Remember that awful forward lean I had during squats? Once I started doing direct ab work it disappeared. My anterior core was just very weak and it took some concentrated effort to get it up to snuff.

[JasonDB]

Jason - Remember that awful forward lean I had during squats? Once I started doing direct ab work it disappeared. My anterior core was just very weak and it took some concentrated effort to get it up to snuff.

Yeah honestly the fix to that problem is ab work and some GMs. Look how far you have come since in such a short time? Struggling with forward lean with 405 to BAM! 530 raw at meets in under a year. I feel like all of my core work has worked wonders in regaining squat and deadlift strength.

[illiniStrive]

1100 Pound Abs by Dave Tate

[ErickStevens]

looking to hit 396.832072 x1 pounds this wednesday in squat(olympic highbar) and dont deadlift during rugby season, but hit a 440lb(ugly) x1 like 3 months ago,
more into my oly lifts

Yeah, because the squat and deadlift have no carry over into the Oly lifts...

[JasonDB]

looking to hit 396.832072 x1 pounds this wednesday in squat(olympic highbar) and dont deadlift during rugby season, but hit a 440lb(ugly) x1 like 3 months ago,
more into my oly lifts

Translation:
<~~~ a guy with more body fat (but cutting), who weighs less than you, who has only been training again hard for a year after a 2 year medical layoff from training (including 10 months in bed) who does core every day can bury your weak ass in the weight room. Got it. Methinks perhaps you should do some core work.

Come at me bro! >:-O DYEL?

[SnatchKinGZZZ]

Yeah, because the squat and deadlift have no carry over into the Oly lifts...

im not going to argue with you erick because you are a god, but i know they have carry over, thats why i do them.....i dont even understand what your saying, i just meant i enjoy olympic lifting more. istill squat 3xweek


EDIT:hmm kk jason, i just always was under the impression core got enough work through squats, chins ohp and such like.

[illiniStrive]

^ will you at least glance at the webpage i posted ...

[JasonDB]

^ will you at least glance at the webpage i posted ...

I read it. Quality post... but you are on spread.

[vitornoob]

Dragon flags ftw

I also like Standing ab crunches

[joelash302]

Abs daily. Squats getting better by the week, and...not...as...much lean as before. Very sure the constant ab and accesory P.C work is the reason.

[brendbro]

EDIT:hmm kk jason, i just always was under the impression core got enough work through squats, chins ohp and such like.

seems like it's one of those topics that keeps switching back and forth between being bro (or whatever the lifting equivalent is...) and "anti" bro

there's definitely no harm in regular direct core work, though obviously if it's your main focus then you may need to check your priorities

in the least, regular ab/core work helps maintain posture & stability in just about any activity

[ErickStevens]

im not going to argue with you erick because you are a god, but i know they have carry over, thats why i do them.....i dont even understand what your saying, i just meant i enjoy olympic lifting more. istill squat 3xweek


EDIT:hmm kk jason, i just always was under the impression core got enough work through squats, chins ohp and such like.

I'm telling you that if you consistently train your abdominals with frequency and heavy resistance it will improve all of your lifts.

[JasonDB]

seems like it's one of those topics that keeps switching back and forth between being bro (or whatever the lifting equivalent is...) and "anti" bro

there's definitely no harm in regular direct core work, though obviously if it's your main focus then you may need to check your priorities

It is bro if you reason for core work is because you think it will make your abs more ripped or vastly change their appearance. It is anti-bro if done for strength/performance purposes. Hince the confusion.

[brendbro]

It is bro if you reason for core work is because you think it will make your abs more ripped or vastly change their appearance. It is anti-bro if done for strength/performance purposes. Hince the confusion.

sadly both my older brothers suffer from the former thought... both have come to me on separate occasions asking why they can't get rid of their guts... "I've been doing abs 7x a week, and look @ this! *grabbing & squeezing at their bellies* sh!t is not going away what the hell?!"

[FitnessCPA]

Inb4cpa. In would never sacrifice a compound for direct core work but see no reason not to include it.

I'll do direct core work when my squat and deadlift numbers are respectable (i.e. intermediate lifter).

[PerpetualMotion]

Jason - Remember that awful forward lean I had during squats? Once I started doing direct ab work it disappeared. My anterior core was just very weak and it took some concentrated effort to get it up to snuff.

I thought squats and deads were enough for the abs?

Hilarious you brought the anterior core up, though. I was going to post about it. Know how some peeps wink? If the wink disappears when the weight is anteriorly loaded then the butt wink is an anterior core issue. That's why some people can front squat with no winkage.

there's definitely no harm in regular direct core work, though obviously if it's your main focus then you may need to check your priorities

If your goal is to increase your big 3 then I don't see why anyone would think abdominals would be a main focus. Seriously, all it ever takes is 5-8 minutes a session or just superset it with your low-impact exercises. I know everyone here does curls, so you can superset your curls with an abdominal exercise instead of standing around and jerking off.

[snrygo]

Inb4cpa. In would never sacrifice a compound for direct core work but see no reason not to include it.

This.


Also, my 0.02 on the subject

I see core work as a somewhat preventative measure since by training it, you are making sure that it is not the weak link in your compounds that potentially leads to you missing the lift/injuring yourself





RKC planks+weighted Ab wheel ftw

[joelash302]

I thought squats and deads were enough for the abs?

I know everyone here does curls, so you can superset your curls with an abdominal exercise instead of standing around and jerking off.

Not always. Might be for some people, but abs are one of those places where you can overcompensate elsewhere and hide the issue for a little while. Then you get f'ed.

Also, I do abs and jerk off, not curls. The bar gets too sticky.

[brendbro]

If your goal is to increase your big 3 then I don't see why anyone would think abdominals would be a main focus. Seriously, all it ever takes is 5-8 minutes a session or just superset it with your low-impact exercises. I know everyone here does curls, so you can superset your curls with an abdominal exercise instead of standing around and jerking off.

not sure if you're disagreeing but that's exactly what I was saying...?

not the weak link in your compounds that potentially leads to you missing the lift/injuring yourself

definitely agree with this

[Dexter3000]

So, do heavy ab work as long as it doesn't interfere with your compound lifts. Common sense wins again.

[PerpetualMotion]

Not always. Might be for some people...

I was joking. Refer to psycho's post "inb4cpa." You can go to Psycho's log to be awared.

not sure if you're disagreeing but that's exactly what I was saying...?

Agreeing, mang, but I was also referring to people who think that doing abs or some small assistance exercises automatically will kill your progress or detracts from the big 3.

So, do heavy ab work as long as it doesn't interfere with your compound lifts. Common sense wins again.

Doesn't always have to be heavy.

[FitnessCPA]

I was joking. Refer to psycho's post "inb4cpa." You can go to Psycho's log to be awared.

They're enough for weak *******s like myself and some others. When I'm squatting 300+ and DL'ing 400+ for reps then I'll start doing some ab work. Maybe.

[joelash302]

I was joking. Refer to psycho's post "inb4cpa." You can go to Psycho's log to be awared.

Right, I didn't realize who I was talking to. I am about 2-3 cups of coffee away from a non-haze response right now.

[HunterCML]

SO ready to get back into the gym today. Had 3 weeks off. I hope that resetting my lifts (so that I break my previous 5RM in week 4) is the right amount to start back at for MC.

Good to be back. Hopefully despite dieting I'll continue with linear progress like I was before my 3 week absence. If so I should finally get dat dere 400+ squat and 500+ dead lift in no time.

Here's hoping.

/diary

ALSO GONNA GO BUY SUM CREATINE ROIDS TODAY. BOOYA.

[BunkMoreland]

ALSO GONNA GO BUY SUM CREATINE TODAY. BOOYA.

[happylifter]

I'm telling you that if you consistently train your abdominals with frequency and heavy resistance it will improve all of your lifts.

from you saying that ab training helped stop you leaning forward im going to start doing them after every session also need to add more stretching along with some lower back work

[JasonDB]

from you saying that ab training helped stop you leaning forward im going to start doing them after every session also need to add more stretching along with some lower back work

Heavy core work is the standard fix for forward lean on squats.

[happylifter]

Heavy core work is the standard fix for forward lean on squats.

yeah will add it on from next time on

also had a rubbish session today was dehydrated and had a bad day yesterday on diet as some stuff came up, but the gym owner asked me to find him when i was done so i did and he said he was proud to have me at the gym as how much effort i put in and never miss a session plus always put the weights away so he gave me a gym t shirt


so feels good to know someone notices my hard work

[joelash302]

Need more heavy core work... and to not hit the pins in the hole...



285x6. Still making progress. Still a long ways to go.