Backstage Blow-up At Extreme Rules; Lesnar Flips

[Forty0zFreedom]

This doesn't shock me at all if its true. Vince is obsessed with Cena and he's been known to change things on the fly. He probably told Cena to do it minutes before the match because he was afraid of Cena looking weak. Then less than 24 hours later he scraps that whole thing too and Cena is still around. Meanwhile Brock gets screwed, the heat and storyline is ruined, and we all get fcked over all because of Vince's shaky terrified clutch on Super Cena.

Today's Vince would fit perfectly in 2001 WCW

[df7215]

lol where are all the *******s from other threads saying how brock came off strong from his match with cena? whether this is a work or not, strong no sell by cena at the end of the match.

Some compared this match's outcome to HHH/Taker's last year, how Taker won the battle but Trips won the war... Bulkasaurus said it above perfectly, you can't compare the two when it's not as if Undertaker got up on his own power and cut a smiley promo saying all is right with the world

[aman88]

well its obvious the whole HHH broken arm thing was used to get brock off the show while they figure out what to do with him. this was pussinitis can run wild since hhh wont be there to call his ****. meantime they have the pussinitis, man boobs, man boobs worshiper vs cena for the next 3 weeks. this booking will be blatantly obvious and easily guessed like all the other "a pussy teams up with a monster" battles WWE has had for the past 15 years. then once they settle things with lesnar he will be back.

[df7215]

not saying this is true, but if it happens to be, i could see brock being off tv until triple h's "injury" heals. they have a match at a future PPV and triple h goes over lesnar just for sh!ts and giggles

[TheNDawg]

Even at the end of the match Brock was selling the punch with the chain and FU on the steps as he was staggering to the back, yet Brock dominated Cena and he stands in the ring smiling. Course Brocks gonna be p***ed, he done his part, so Cena should have done his

[aman88]

lol where are all the *******s from other threads saying how brock came off strong from his match with cena? whether this is a work or not, strong no sell by cena at the end of the match.

Some compared this match's outcome to HHH/Taker's last year, how Taker won the battle but Trips won the war... Bulkasaurus said it above perfectly, you can't compare the two when it's not as if Undertaker got up on his own power and cut a smiley promo saying all is right with the world

this difference is at this point taker only comes out for WM, so he basically has to do that as a reason to not be around for 10 months.

[df7215]

this difference is at this point taker only comes out for WM, so he basically has to do that as a reason to not be around for 10 months.

doesn't excuse no-selling for being beaten down for 20 minutes in a "real" fight

[lazzara]

Hopefully this is true lols.

WWE probably wanted to to make UFC and Lesnar looked weak. And Cena legit hated Lesnar because Lesnar refused to work w/ Cena in the past (that could've led to Cena's first heavyweight title). It all makes sense, that one spot where Lesnar almost blew up his knee was a payback for the sluggish match at Backlash. And Cena was probably supposed to go off the stretcher after he lost (ala undertaker) but he went ahead and cut his shoot promo and talked about how "his boss wouldn't like it and might get him fired", and it wouldn't make sense to carry him with a stretcher that way.

John Cena vs Johnny Ace probably wasn't planned, but they probably needed something to fill the void until the situation is resolved.

[df7215]

Hopefully this is true lols.

WWE probably wanted to to make UFC and Lesnar looked weak. And Cena legit hated Lesnar because Lesnar refused to work w/ Cena in the past (that could've led to Cena's first heavyweight title). It all makes sense, that one spot where Lesnar almost blew up his knee was a payback for the sluggish match at Backlash. And Cena was probably supposed to go off the stretcher after he lost (ala undertaker) but he went ahead and cut his shoot promo and talked about how "his boss wouldn't like it and might get him fired", and it wouldn't make sense to carry him with a stretcher that way.

John Cena vs Johnny Ace probably wasn't planned, but they probably needed something to fill the void until the situation is resolved.

lol wait yesterday you were saying how strong brock looked, now he and UFC come off looking as "weak"?

[lazzara]

lol wait yesterday you were saying how strong brock looked, now he and UFC come off looking as "weak"?

Nah, I still think Brock looked dominant in a match against Cena. No one ever wrecked Cena (and subsequently Triple H the day after) like Lesnar did, They still showed his dominance, but it didn't make him to seem unstoppable. Not sure why people would want Lesnar to beat Cena to make him unstoppable... because otherwise the rest of the roster will only job to him. For a man who doesn't respect the company (case in point), he sure as hell doesn't deserve the best treatment in WWE

Lesnar probably thought he was going to get booked as an unstoppable force, but WWE was like "nah". Shows you how much of a **** Lesnar is when things don't go his way, though

[musselsbrah]

wait till brock leaves wwe will be horrible as usual

[ForYourHealth]

Ill say this, Cena better go over Laurenitis. If they let Laurenitis go over Cena and not Lesnar....something is seriously wrong.

[df7215]

Nah, I still think Brock looked dominant in a match against Cena. No one ever wrecked Cena (and subsequently Triple H the day after) like Lesnar did, They still showed his dominance, but it didn't make him to seem unstoppable. Not sure why people would want Lesnar to beat Cena to make him unstoppable... because otherwise the rest of the roster will only job to him. For a man who doesn't respect the company (case in point), he sure as hell doesn't deserve the best treatment in WWE

Lesnar probably thought he was going to get booked as an unstoppable force, but WWE was like "nah". Shows you how much of a **** Lesnar is when things don't go his way, though

I know he's kind of a douche IRL, but if they told him the match and fallout would go one way (Cena not leaving under his own power) and it happened differently, I don't blame him for being mad

[nighttime90]

wait till brock leaves wwe will be horrible as usual

It's already started down the right track since Sunday

[Hardbody316]

in b4 brock wrestles cena again in a rematch but hes so mad that this time he actually legit hurts cena so bad he has to be taken straight to hospital, then lesnar flips on the cameras and shows up on TNA the next night!

[lazzara]

I know he's kind of a douche IRL, but if they told him the match and fallout would go one way (Cena not leaving under his own power) and it happened differently, I don't blame him for being mad

It's probably like Montreal Screwjob fiasco. Vince/Cena wanted a different ending but Brock wanted to come off dominant. Vince/ Cena told Brock that's what's gonna happen and Brock got what he wanted (for the most part) until Cena got up and cut his shoot promo. Cena is probably the douche here, but whatever, good for him. It's not a good decision to get someone who doesn't appreciate the company to go over the most dedicated man in the company.

But fwiw, HHH was meant to be on RAW anyway, since Cole announced it at the beginning of Extreme Rules. I'm still inclined to think the dirtsheet is blown out of proportion.

[df7215]

It's probably like Montreal Screwjob fiasco. Vince/Cena wanted a different ending but Brock wanted to come off dominant. Vince/ Cena told Brock that's what's gonna happen and Brock got what he wanted (for the most part) until Cena got up and cut his shoot promo. Cena is probably the douche here, but whatever, good for him. It's not a good decision to get someone who doesn't appreciate the company to go over the most dedicated man in the company.

But fwiw, HHH was meant to be on RAW anyway, since Cole announced it at the beginning of Extreme Rules. I'm still inclined to think the dirtsheet is blown out of proportion.

again, if you're going to be booking things based on who has been around longer/is harder of a worker... then... idk you shouldn't be booking lol.

and again, Cena losing to Brock at his first match back doesn't mean he never goes over Brock. Losing now and building up to a bigger match down the road would feel so much more meaningful and could get more of the Cena haters behind him with the underdog story

[CCAurora]

If this is all true, Brock has every right to be pissed. That's a MAJOR double-cross on Cena's part... and yet, somehow, he can walk the trail HBK blazed and make it seem lame.

[lazzara]

again, if you're going to be booking things based on who has been around longer/is harder of a worker... then... idk you shouldn't be booking lol.

and again, Cena losing to Brock at his first match back doesn't mean he never goes over Brock. Losing now and building up to a bigger match down the road would feel so much more meaningful and could get more of the Cena haters behind him with the underdog story

Lol, wrestling isn't a real competition like UFC. Probably not based on who has been around longer (otherwise JTG would've been the world champ), but it definitely should be based on how hard do you work and how willing are you to oblige to the company.

Cena losing to Brock is never a good business. Cena's gimmick is to overcome the odds, and that's what he did. Cena losing to Brock would be an insult to the rest of the roster. Most wrestlers had to work their asses off to get to where Lesnar did. He's been getting the golden boy treatment since the day in the company, only to leave the company when WWE expected Lesnar to be the face of WWE.

Can't see the reason why Lesnar should be getting pushed over the moon except for the fact he's a former UFC heavyweight champ. He still can't cut promo for ****. And the only reason why he's seen as a big name is because WWE gave him the popularity on his first stint with WWE. If WWE never pushed him, I doubt he'd be getting the NFL contract, and I doubt he'd be in the UFC title scene if he wasn't seen as an attraction

[Bulkasaurus]

Nah, I still think Brock looked dominant in a match against Cena. No one ever wrecked Cena (and subsequently Triple H the day after) like Lesnar did, They still showed his dominance, but it didn't make him to seem unstoppable. Not sure why people would want Lesnar to beat Cena to make him unstoppable... because otherwise the rest of the roster will only job to him. For a man who doesn't respect the company (case in point), he sure as hell doesn't deserve the best treatment in WWE

Lesnar probably thought he was going to get booked as an unstoppable force, but WWE was like "nah". Shows you how much of a **** Lesnar is when things don't go his way, though

Or ya know, WWE could actually build a rematch worth watching or get hind another talent to be the one to beat Brock. But no, Supercena winning nips that in the bud.

[Bulkasaurus]

It's probably like Montreal Screwjob fiasco. Vince/Cena wanted a different ending but Brock wanted to come off dominant. Vince/ Cena told Brock that's what's gonna happen and Brock got what he wanted (for the most part) until Cena got up and cut his shoot promo. Cena is probably the douche here, but whatever, good for him. It's not a good decision to get someone who doesn't appreciate the company to go over the most dedicated man in the company.

But fwiw, HHH was meant to be on RAW anyway, since Cole announced it at the beginning of Extreme Rules. I'm still inclined to think the dirtsheet is blown out of proportion.

FFS, Cena WON and cut the promo. Lesnar agreed to do the job. Lesnar jobbed and got **** on at the end with Cena no selling.

[df7215]

FFS, Cena WON and cut the promo. Lesnar agreed to do the job. Lesnar jobbed and got **** on at the end with Cena no selling.

This argument is a continual smh moment, there ain't no winning it. Marks gonna mark

[DarkskinBrah]

If this is all true, Brock has every right to be pissed. That's a MAJOR double-cross on Cena's part

this.

[Bulkasaurus]

Some more details:

Brock Lesnar had a huge blow up backstage after WWE Extreme Rules according to F4Wonline.com.

Lesnar was reporedly told leading up to the WWE Extreme Rules event that the plan for the pay-per-view was going to see Cena leaving on a stretcher, totally incapacitated and injued off television at the hands of Lesnar. Obviously, this didn't happen. Cena went over in the match, made a speech and walked out on his own power.

Backstage Lesnar apparently made a huge scene as he was upset at Cena's post-match speech. He felt WWE officials had double crossed him to make Cena look good and Lesnar weak. According to reports Lesnar was tearing things up and flipped out on Marc Carano who is the assistant to John Laurinaitis. Lesnar went on about how things were a mess in WWE.

There is speculation that some or all of Lesnar's backstage tantrum was orchestrated by Lesnar and top WWE officials to work the rest of the roster. There is also specualtion according to the report that Lesnar causing a scene backstage was mostly his way of letting everyone know he isn't afraid to quit and doesnt need WWE. Some feeling Lesnar really didn't care as much about the change in booking but wanted to show off his situation of not needing to be there.

Reports also say Lesnar suggested Cena pulled the top rope down when he was standing on the apron which caused Lesnar to fall out of the ring and almost blowing his knee on that spot during their match.

Where Lesnar goes next in storylines is up in the air in WWE which is why Lesnar had the walk out moment on RAW last night to help buy some time and figure out what to do next.

[lazzara]

FFS, Cena WON and cut the promo. Lesnar agreed to do the job. Lesnar jobbed and got **** on at the end with Cena no selling.

how much of "selling" do you want to see, lol? they can put cena into stretcher but it wouldn't make sense to have him back the next day if he was on the stretcher (because we all know RAW can't happen w/o Cena). He sold his arm pretty well, i thought. And he was still selling it the day after. It all comes down to political backstage as well. Cena allegedly hated Lesnar, it's a dick move, but Cena could afford it because I suppose he's one of the backstage leaders now. The same dirtsheet reported Lesnar didn't make any friends backstage lol, I doubt anyone would mind with Cena's decision to be a dick to Lesnar

[Kadafi25]

Has anyone considered that maybe Cena planned to cut the promo because of all the stiff shots he had been getting from Brock. Maybe the elbows to the skull were the last straw for him.

[Bulkasaurus]

how much of "selling" do you want to see, lol? they can put cena into stretcher but it wouldn't make sense to have him back the next day if he was on the stretcher (because we all know RAW can't happen w/o Cena). He sold his arm pretty well, i thought. And he was still selling it the day after. It all comes down to political backstage as well. Cena allegedly hated Lesnar, it's a dick move, but Cena could afford it because I suppose he's one of the backstage leaders now. The same dirtsheet reported Lesnar didn't make any friends backstage lol, I doubt anyone would mind with Cena's decision to be a dick to Lesnar

Him not saying a mommy joke into the camera after, or cutting that promo. Hell even if he wants to celebrate, look solemn, proud, don't smile like a freaking moron.

How does this justify doing bad business? If any of this is true, why shouldn't Brock just repeat Wrestlemania 20 for the rest of his matches.

Who the hell cares if Brock doesn't make friends with Kofi Kingston or Dolph Ziggler. It's a business that's purpose is to entertain and suspend disbelief. Cena smiling, claiming he might need to take a vacation, and then showing up smiling on Raw again is retarded.

[Bulkasaurus]

Has anyone considered that maybe Cena planned to cut the promo because of all the stiff shots he had been getting from Brock. Maybe the elbows to the skull were the last straw for him.

Regardless, Vince could've cut the show, or Cena's mic. It was planned, probably in part to work people into thinking that Brock is as volatile/cancerous backstage as he is in the ring and probably for to feed Vince's ego that he just punked the guy who punked him 10 years ago. Unfortunately, this is at the expense of a good angle.

[aman88]

Has anyone considered that maybe Cena planned to cut the promo because of all the stiff shots he had been getting from Brock. Maybe the elbows to the skull were the last straw for him.

he did look like he legitimately hit him. and all fairness brock did NOTHING in that match where cena shouldve been stretchered off. you dont get stretchered from a shoulder injury. if they wanted him to get stretchered creative would have told brock to target the head/back more.

[TheNDawg]

Anyone else feel as though they've rushed into the angle of having Cena v Laurinaitis? Much like they did with Punk coming back? They could have easily had him have a month or so off due to "injury" and then have Cena claim it was all down to Laurinaitis why he was out injured as he brought back Brock to destroy him? Couldve made the rivalry alot more legit