Mark Rippetoe explains the main reason why we (the USA) suck at olympic weightlifting

[forcefedfreak]

these dudes clearly know what's up

lol I just watched that earlier. It was pretty funny.

[scarboro]

I assumed that the top guys did/do

Really? I guess I was the only naive one to assume that they had to at least ATTEMPT to hide it from 'officials' in their countries weightlifting fed. This pretty much puts all internal testing in those countries as being extremely questionable. Seems like you can only get caught outside of your own country?

[Engineer_Guy]

Because he is a very good strength coach who has helped many people get stronger.

His specialty is making untrained people stronger. Which really isn't all that difficult. He's too narrow minded to train an actual athlete.

[chigiskov]

Really? I guess I was the only naive one to assume that they had to at least ATTEMPT to hide it from 'officials' in their countries weightlifting fed. This pretty much puts all internal testing in those countries as being extremely questionable. Seems like you can only get caught outside of your own country?

There's talk of Russians testing internally more than ever. Many second string guys are getting popped, but I'm sure the likes of Klokov and co are pretty protected.

[CHS55]

Out of curiosity, who has Mark Rippetoe coached exactly? As in the specific names of lifters?

[bcop]

His specialty is making untrained people stronger. Which really isn't all that difficult. He's too narrow minded to train an actual athlete.

Out of curiosity, who has Mark Rippetoe coached exactly? As in the specific names of lifters?

see post #38

[CHS55]

see post #38

Again, the specific names? Maybe I didn't read it well enough, I didn't see any names of people that he's coached.

[chigiskov]

Again, the specific names? Maybe I didn't read it well enough, I didn't see any names of people that he's coached.

[scarboro]

Lol I just read that post and fraverdenstreet is pretty much better than that guy Rip coached for 11 years.
Kyle, wanna say that i'm your coach and I'll claim that the key towards success in the oly lifts is NEVER DEADLIFTING? :P

[feces99]

That would be great on a resume.

Coaching Experience:

EEEEEVVVEERRRRYYYYOONNNNNNNEEEEEE

[relativelyweak]

Lol I just read that post and fraverdenstreet is pretty much better than that guy Rip coached for 11 years.
Kyle, wanna say that i'm your coach and I'll claim that the key towards success in the oly lifts is NEVER DEADLIFTING? :P

Seriously, don't buy into the hype. Rip never coached anyone on the WFW team, and I was on the team and I know. We didn't even do most of our training in his gym. About the only time he stepped into the weightlifting room it was to turn the thermostat up and gripe at us for wasting his electricity.

[GqArtguy]

Seriously, don't buy into the hype. Rip never coached anyone on the WFW team, and I was on the team and I know. We didn't even do most of our training in his gym. About the only time he stepped into the weightlifting room it was to turn the thermostat up and gripe at us for wasting his electricity.

Seems like there are guys that take Pendlay's position which is here: http://pendlayforum.com/showpost.php...3&postcount=73

But then there are others who say they trained there providing a conflicting story. For example: http://pendlayforum.com/showpost.php...&postcount=152

Its one thing to say "well he wasnt there from 1999-2004 but was a coach after that" but the argument from either camp is whether Rip was coaching at all regardless of time period. Both men provide contradictory stories as well as lifters there. Why the schism?

[runtocatch]

I'm still confused as to why the **** anyone still gives a **** what Mark Rippetoe has to say about anything?

Thats kinda how I see it.

[relativelyweak]

ts one thing to say "well he wasnt there from 1999-2004 but was a coach after that" but the argument from either camp is whether Rip was coaching at all regardless of time period. Both men provide contradictory stories as well as lifters there. Why the schism?

That one conflicting story is Josh. He trained with me for a couple of years actually, we trained at Midwestern State university. Glenn was the main coach, but Hartman and a couple of other grad students helped out, for a while Hartman actually helped me more than anyone else. We had a pretty big group at that time. Josh got hurt sometime around 2004 after he went to junior worlds, and he kind of stopped training with the team. I think Rip hired him to work in his gym after that.

I don't think anyone is saying Rip never ever coached anyone, just that he never coached anyone with the WFW team. Outside the team, I never saw Rip coach anyone, but I couldn't swear that he didn't. When the weightlifting team was training at midwestern, I really don't know what Rip was doing, running his gym across town I guess. When we started going over to Rips gym to train Rip and Glenn really didn't seem to get along very well, and pretty much stayed out of each others way. I know that the weightlfiters got their own building eventually, I didn't train there but I know where it was. Like i said Rip and Glenn didnt get along that well and I think the experiment of having the weightlifters train at Rips gym for some of the training sessions didn't work out.

As far as why the controversy, who knows. There was never any controversy about who the coach was at the time this was happening, I dont know why there is almost 10 years later. If anyone else has any claim to be a coach there it would be Hartman. I also heard that Kilgore was a coach before i started training. Back then the subject of Rip being a coach never came up. I think I trained with the team for over a year before I ever even met the guy for the first time.

[raffiki]

Seems like there are guys that take Pendlay's position which is here: http://pendlayforum.com/showpost.php...3&postcount=73

But then there are others who say they trained there providing a conflicting story. For example: http://pendlayforum.com/showpost.php...&postcount=152

Its one thing to say "well he wasnt there from 1999-2004 but was a coach after that" but the argument from either camp is whether Rip was coaching at all regardless of time period. Both men provide contradictory stories as well as lifters there. Why the schism?

Who cares? Has anyone seen Rip at nationals slapping the traps of a champion before his lifts? I haven't.

[NeoKantian]

Never understood this type of crap. It's pretty clear to anyone involved in weightlifting that you need to be strong and have good technique. After all, for some people it seems they do not understand that technique is about maximizing efficiency and thereby creating less work for the lifter. You wouldn't tell a golfer at the tee with his driver, "Yo bro...just hit it hard, that technique stuff is overated."

Speculating on what would work is great and all, but at some point you need to seriously put in the effort to get some results.

[fraverdenstreet]

Lol I just read that post and fraverdenstreet is pretty much better than that guy Rip coached for 11 years.
Kyle, wanna say that i'm your coach and I'll claim that the key towards success in the oly lifts is NEVER DEADLIFTING? :P

just saw this
yes.

[BigAndyC]

Chinese are much more advanced with their drug techniques then the USA is.

[admiralseadog]

Except there are US lifters that can easily match foreign lifters in terms of strength yet the results don't compare. Kendrick Farris is probably stronger than most if not all of his competitors.

not sure if this is true or not, most foreign lifters don't post daily squat vids etc. plus the way kendrick stands up with cleans doesn't indicate he is one of the stronger 85's. maybe in the back squat but his front squat might be off

[admiralseadog]

Chinese are much more advanced with their drug techniques then the USA is.

LMAO then how do all da bodybuilders and nfl players in usa get their juice?

[forcefedfreak]

LMAO then how do all da bodybuilders and nfl players in usa get their juice?

Wow strong comprehension. Just because China is more advanced doesn't mean that NFL players can't get juice?

[feces99]

there is literally nothing new that can be said about this subject. i don't get why america as a whole is still dwelling on this.