Pat Mendes tested positive

[scarboro]

I think he should have been in more meets. His best lifts were done in a gym and not on the platform. But I guess we all know now why he didn't.

I think had he not posted videos of his gym lifts(and/or not gotten caught) we would be on his nuts like no tomorrow.

[scott_donald]

wow just read about this now...

[SethID]

this always gets me thinking what those Iranians are up to in their secluded little country

[feces99]

this always gets me thinking what those Iranians are up to in their secluded little country

snatching 220, then eating 220 in shawarma

[dizalwizal]

lol @ all people who remotely assume you get to even 50% of mendes strength after a lifetime of hard training

without enchance

LOL you think the human body is tough ?

you think after 2 years of excruciating training you can no no no no squat 350 KG ?

350 KG ON YOUR BACK?

even then a 9mm bullet will kill mendes piercing trough his body ..

lol @ "performance" in sport
lol @ elite

it makes you belive in superhumans

none of this **** is healthy and barely carries over to your daily activities

sport was best before 20th century

[DaTruth1]

lol @ all people who remotely assume you get to even 50% of mendes strength after a lifetime of hard training

without enchance

LOL you think the human body is tough ?

you think after 2 years of excruciating training you can no no no no squat 350 KG ?

350 KG ON YOUR BACK?

even then a 9mm bullet will kill mendes piercing trough his body ..

lol @ "performance" in sport
lol @ elite

it makes you belive in superhumans

none of this **** is healthy and barely carries over to your daily activities

sport was best before 20th century

Seriously? A lot of guys on here snatch over 107kg.

[PretentiousKunt]

lol @ all people who remotely assume you get to even 50% of mendes strength after a lifetime of hard training

without enchance

LOL you think the human body is tough ?

you think after 2 years of excruciating training you can no no no no squat 350 KG ?

350 KG ON YOUR BACK?

even then a 9mm bullet will kill mendes piercing trough his body ..

lol @ "performance" in sport
lol @ elite

it makes you belive in superhumans

none of this **** is healthy and barely carries over to your daily activities

sport was best before 20th century

Age: 17
Status: All knowing Oracle.

[wrkoutfrq]

Age: 17
Status: All knowing TROLL.

fixed that for ya

[thom2355]

you think after 2 years of excruciating training you can no no no no squat 350 KG ?

I thought there were only three no's.

[dbk1]

I thought there were only three no's.

a true raw back squat is to be done naked without shoes =D

[thom2355]

a true raw back squat is to be done naked without shoes =D

Five no's????

I am going back ova to powerlifting talk.

[MegaDave]

Five no's????

I am going back ova to powerlifting talk.

6 no's is without touching the bar at all...

[dizalwizal]

50% dosent mean literally half numbers ,it means exponential . like 200 to 300 kg squat is like 4 times harder than 100 to 200 . and 300-360 3 times harder than previous , something like that . when i said 50 % i meant about 240 kg . wich naturally IS hard

[strengthsthetic]

50% dosent mean literally half numbers ,it means exponential . like 200 to 300 kg squat is like 4 times harder than 100 to 200 . and 300-360 3 times harder than previous , something like that . when i said 50 % i meant about 240 kg . wich naturally IS hard

clarence kennedy squats 262.5kg at 18 years old natty after 3 years training.

[feces99]

clarence kennedy squats 262.5kg at 18 years old natty after 3 years training.

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hes not "natty". i think he admitted it himself

[dbk1]

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hes not "natty". i think he admitted it himself

He did an interview 2 months ago where he said he was still natty, not sure about now.

that being said I don't know why people care so much anyway, even if he was still natty now he sure won't be when he makes a push for the olympics. the whole "who's natty who's not" thing is just stupid anyway, the fact is probably all olympic caliber lifters are taking something. I'm sure there are people who have reached very high levels of success in weightlifting sans drugs, but they are far and few between

[Limitless7]

that being said I don't know why people care so much anyway, even if he was still natty now he sure won't be when he makes a push for the olympics. the whole "who's natty who's not" thing is just stupid anyway, the fact is probably all olympic caliber lifters are taking something. I'm sure there are people who have reached very high levels of success in weightlifting sans drugs, but they are far and few between

It's a big deal if said lifter is competing in tested federations/meets. If someone is using and competes untested then fine..they aren't trying to cheat and it's an even playing field. If they compete against tested lifters in what is supposed to be 'drug free' competition then they are at a huge advantage and cheating/frauding

[dtaps24]

It's a big deal if said lifter is competing in tested federations/meets. If someone is using and competes untested then fine..they aren't trying to cheat and it's an even playing field. If they compete against tested lifters in what is supposed to be 'drug free' competition then they are at a huge advantage and cheating/frauding

It's a cruel world out there. Most if not all of the guys in the Olympics use. There is no Santa Claus. I hate to be the one to break these things to you, but I think you should know as you head into the next phase of your life.

[Limitless7]

It's a cruel world out there. Most if not all of the guys in the Olympics use. There is no Santa Claus. I hate to be the one to break these things to you, but I think you should know as you head into the next phase of your life.

Yes... no **** sherlock..my gut feeling is lifters placing relatively high up all use apart from very few. What I said always holds true..

[BALADEVA]

50% dosent mean literally half numbers ,it means exponential . like 200 to 300 kg squat is like 4 times harder than 100 to 200 . and 300-360 3 times harder than previous , something like that . when i said 50 % i meant about 240 kg . wich naturally IS hard

Lmao @ you

[chigiskov]

Yes... no **** sherlock..my gut feeling is lifters placing relatively high up all use apart from very few. What I said always holds true..

Who in your opinion are these supposed "very few"?

[CHS55]

Who in your opinion are these supposed "very few"?

If anyone is it's some of the 48 kg women.

[dtaps24]

Yes... no **** sherlock..my gut feeling is lifters placing relatively high up all use apart from very few. What I said always holds true..

So I guess you're not a big fan of Olympic lifting then?

[Heavy_Beats]

Now this is a damn shame. Not because Mendes got popped, but because he IS very, very good and now all of that talent will marginalized and brushed aside like it was some kind of fluke. Mediocre people only need one excuse to completely write off an outlier like Mendes, and here it is. He'll be blacklisted in USAW for the rest of his career (if he's allowed to have one).

I also read Broz's response to it. He has no reason to apologize. "He" didn't cause any black eyes to the US community that weren't there for the past 30 years. If anything "he" was trying to help the USA out of our extended slump, and IT WAS WORKING. If we're going to blame coaches for positive tests by athletes on their teams then start by ripping Leo Totten, Mike Burgener, Lyn Jones, Dragomir Ciroslan, Mike Cohen, Glen Pendlay.... hell, throw them all in there. We have a long list of positive results in this wonderful country and there are some from every team out there. Everyone uses. EVERYONE. That IS the sport, unless you're some little buck fiddy bodyspacer who thinks a 100kg clean and jerk is noteworthy.

Problem is, Broz wasn't part of the good ole boys network that runs USAW. He gave the US an alternative training method and now people are going to jump all over his and his guys simply because people are ****s who only need an excuse to turn on those who do better than them. I don't think the USA deserves top caliber coaches like Krastev, Abajiev, and Broz. We're like a bunch of fickle women. I wonder what the political motivations were to popping Mendes with an out of meet test at this point in time. A little convenient and very fishy considering he his T/E was normal and he was popped for a substance that isn't useful on it's own. It's like getting arrested for rolling papers and no weed.

You want to kill a sport? Keep hunting it's best athletes so you can make an example. Keep validating the inflated funding of the USADA and screw the actual sports. USA Weightlifting is dead. Bury it right nest to the rest of this country.

Looks like Burgener is going to weasel his ****ing kid onto yet another undeserved US Team ("Team Nepotism"). Oh well, would have been interesting to see a US guy in the "A" flight for a change.

While people continue to commit crimes, people will continue to get caught. Justice is served.

Yeah, pretty much everyone I admire is on gear as far as I know. so i DGAF

Yep, as far as you know everyone you look up to and everything to aspire to be is a lie. It is disheartening and hurts everyone.

[feces99]

Poor Barbaro. He can never catch a break.

[chigiskov]

Yep, as far as you know everyone you look up to and everything to aspire to be is a lie. It is disheartening and hurts everyone.

Blows me away that grown people think this.

[Blitzk]

Yep, as far as you know everyone you look up to and everything to aspire to be is a lie. It is disheartening and hurts everyone.

How can you act like the people dedicating their lives to training don't deserve their success, do you really feel that insecure?

[nova6868]

Threads like this make me feel like we're all just sitting around pondering and theorizing about the moral/ethical dilemma of drug use. We examine it from every angle and spend countless hours theorizing about the risks and benefits, the philosophical implications on society, etc... on and on... I know I've done this myself...

Meanwhile, athletes all across Europe and Asia are using whatever drugs they can, tapering down when they need to pass a test, and training their asses off. They're bringing home Gold medals. Not a single **** is given about anything else.

[JiP]

Yep, as far as you know everyone you look up to and everything to aspire to be is a lie. It is disheartening and hurts everyone.

Yeah that's the only thing separating you from being a top competitor man. Not like these guys train since their early teens 2-4 times a day and dedicate their whole childhood to the sport or anything.

[dbk1]

zhang guozheng started olympic lifting when he was 9 years old.

9 YEARS OLD. what were you doing when you where 9? I know I wasn't hitting snatch positions with a broomstick.

could you imagine the pressure, the fear that these guys go through? Especially in a countries like China, Russia, Bulgaria, and Iran. You dedicate your entire life to a sport you love, you train through pain and injuries. Think about the pressure and the fear these guys must feel, knowing that your family is depending on you to be great. Can imagine what if would feel like to be a great lifter, to have put everything on the line and become successful at the sport, only to never have your dreams realized because someone else is lifting gold medal numbers, and you're only lifting bronze.

look in America, where becoming a full time lifter means putting yourself on extremely rocky financial ground. Jon North talks about how weightlifting has become his job, that its become so much of his life that he can't even imagine not walking into the gym. A lot of guys, including myself like to say, "oh look how lucky those guys are, all they get to do is train! I'm so jealous I would love to do that". When your life revolves around lifting 13x a week, devoting yourself to a sport that some people are trying to take out of the olympics, I mean thats got to be so tough.

performance enhancers in sports is not about cheating. Its a bunch of guys who have poured their entire lives into a sport doing whatever they can to survive in it.