Pat Mendes tested positive

[feces99]

I'm not so surprised with Pat, but I was taken aback by the fact that Gilbert was caught. He has no business using supplements yet. He should have squeezed out whatever gains he could before taking the leap. Hell, he's only nineteen whats the rush?

[babylover]

I'm not so surprised with Pat, but I was taken aback by the fact that Gilbert was caught. He has no business using supplements yet. He should have squeezed out whatever gains he could before taking the leap. Hell, he's only nineteen whats the rush?

The rush is he's trying to compete against Chinese and Russians who have been cycling on and off since 15.

[LegosInMyEgos]

How, he got popped on a random (not at a competition) test. The USADA has the ability to test him on any day of the year, how does one plan for random drug tests?

Do you not understand what random out of contest testing means? It could have just been poor luck of the draw

Better funded US sports never seem to have lifters turning up positive.

Its not as if a bunch of people break down the door to his apartment, hold him down, and take his blood.

I am sure that preparing for a situation like this could have prevented a positive result.

[chigiskov]

Better funded US sports never seem to have lifters turning up positive.

Its not as if a bunch of people break down the door to his apartment, hold him down, and take his blood.

I am sure that preparing for a situation like this could have prevented a positive result.

You'd be surprised brah. My coach has several American records, they show up to his house at 7 am knocking on the door, follow him to the bathroom make sure he pisses.

[PhreEkGarden]

It isn't banned because it is a diuretic, it is banned because it's a hell of a masking agent for other PEDS..... So it is implied that he was taking something else, and trying to cover it up

I was wondering about that... didnt know this.

[chigiskov]

I was wondering about that... didnt know this.

Diuretics are banned period. They might have masking properties, but they are banned regardless of that.

[atgcuz]

I'm not so surprised with Pat, but I was taken aback by the fact that Gilbert was caught. He has no business using supplements yet. He should have squeezed out whatever gains he could before taking the leap. Hell, he's only nineteen whats the rush?

why waste time like that? by 19 you should already be lifting atleast over 75% of the world record. no you don't have all the time in the world to become champion.
im more surprised about him going into competitions though. even if he passed the test that time, wouldnt he become subjected to random testing and eventually test positive? rob is smart

[isaku900]

just a reminder. DON'T TALK ABOUT SPECIFICS OF USAGE OF COMPOUNDS. YOU WILL BE BANNED.

last warning.

[nurburg]

Diuretics are banned period.

As they should be. You want to take about legitimately dangerous substance that can and have killed people... Renal failure is no joke.

[nurburg]

You'd be surprised brah. My coach has several American records, they show up to his house at 7 am knocking on the door, follow him to the bathroom make sure he pisses.

Who's your coach?

[fraverdenstreet]

You'd be surprised brah. My coach has several American records, they show up to his house at 7 am knocking on the door, follow him to the bathroom make sure he pisses.

can i lift w/ u

[dtaps24]

At first I was fascinated by the Broz love, then I was confused, now it is just kinda irritating. Why on earth would you be surprised anybody from that gym got popped regardless of age? Broz's model is fairly simple: get young guys with good DNA, enhance them, train them to failure, post cool videos on Youtube, have retardedly disparate results on the platform and once you enter the drug pool, rinse, repeat. I don't have an issue with any of that, but let's not pretend it's something it's not, that bad luck for Broz explains the timing of Adell's burnout, or Mendes was sooooo close to Gold. While I still get a kick out of people trying to run a squat to failure all day, every day without the proper restoratives and then wondering why it doesn't work when it worked so well for a bunch of genetically gifted enhanced elite lifters (at least with regards to gym lifts on Youtube), usually the simplest answer is the correct one.

[nova6868]

Well... crap.

[Kharvok]

this is pretty said. I mean every other country uses that is successful. The type of programming that they were running isn't possible naturally and everyone knows that.

[feces99]

why waste time like that? by 19 you should already be lifting atleast over 75% of the world record. no you don't have all the time in the world to become champion.
im more surprised about him going into competitions though. even if he passed the test that time, wouldnt he become subjected to random testing and eventually test positive? rob is smart

I call bull on that one. Perepchenov made an unofficial world record clean and jerk at 34 years old AFTER a tremendous bulk as well as a failed stint at powerlifting.

[CHS55]

*Josh Gilbert's reply when asked about his ban:

"2 yrs bro its all a bunch of bs man i didnt even kno **** was a banned subsustance wateva tho look out for me in the 69's 2014 baby"

[raffiki]

*Josh Gilbert's reply when asked about his ban:

"2 yrs bro its all a bunch of bs man i didnt even kno **** was a banned subsustance wateva tho look out for me in the 69's 2014 baby"

Right. Furosemide sounds completely innocent. Who could have guessed it was banned?

[feces99]

*Josh Gilbert's reply when asked about his ban:

"2 yrs bro its all a bunch of bs man i didnt even kno **** was a banned subsustance wateva tho look out for me in the 69's 2014 baby"

How could one not ask questions when taking heavy diuretics? Someone should have known, especially his coach.

edit: looked up info about the stuff, his use had to have been deliberate.

[dlt76028]

I was hoped mendes was a genetic freak perfect for weightlifting, but now the truth is out. Does everyone that's any good juice?

[WHT_LIGHTNING]

I was hoped mendes was a genetic freak perfect for weightlifting, but now the truth is out. Does everyone that's any good juice?

the general consensus is yes

if by good, you mean people contending for medals at the world level

[Newbtime]

Mendes tests positive

[thejdeck]

*Josh Gilbert's reply when asked about his ban:

"2 yrs bro its all a bunch of bs man i didnt even kno **** was a banned subsustance wateva tho look out for me in the 69's 2014 baby"

At least he sounds intelligent...I sure hope he's the one who gets to represent out country....and regarding his body weight of his YouTube videos..Broz puts whatever he wants lol

[mikay456]

As they should be. You want to take about legitimately dangerous substance that can and have killed people... Renal failure is no joke.

Lets not be so absolute here, a little lasix isn't gonna kill anyone/ cause renal failure in healthy people. A bigger concern is electrolyte imbalance

[lwild]

I call bull on that one. Perepchenov made an unofficial world record clean and jerk at 34 years old AFTER a tremendous bulk as well as a failed stint at powerlifting.

No such thing as an unofficial world record, you sound like Broz...



About Pat testing positive... manlandsonmoon.jpg

[KyleAaron]

The pressing question for me is if Broz was aware of what his lifters were doing on the side? That can be a murky plausible deniability area...

Whether he knew or not, it certainly puts his comments about overtraining in context.

[feces99]

No such thing as an unofficial world record, you sound like Broz...



About Pat testing positive... manlandsonmoon.jpg

It was in a meet, but a meet not sanctioned by the IWF.

[nurburg]

Whether he knew or not, it certainly puts his comments about overtraining in context.

Very very true. The whole bulgarian system of training is presumably only productive with a restoratives.

[nurburg]

Lets not be so absolute here, a little lasix isn't gonna kill anyone/ cause renal failure in healthy people. A bigger concern is electrolyte imbalance

Didn't mean to sound sensationalist. I was saying that in context of the USADA statement that HGH was a "dangerous substance". My point was that in comparison diuretics are more likely to cause problems when (mis)used.

[godsangina2]

Brb

"no such thing as overtraining"

"Max out several times a day"

"We're genetic gods"

Here's a before/after to give you an idea of how much of what Mendes achieved was "talent":

[ChrisJones999]

Brb

"no such thing as overtraining"

"Max out several times a day"

"We're genetic gods"

Here's a before/after to give you an idea of how much of what Mendes achieved was "talent":

lol the years are backwards on this!!!