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    can you build muscle while cutting

    Does anyone know if you can build muscle while cutting. Also, what is the best way to go high reps lower eeight or low reps heavy weight?
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    Only if your a beginner after about 1 or 1.5 years your gains start to slow down and your body will require excess calories to grow. I just stay between 6-12 reps.
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    Originally Posted by 8andr3s8 View Post
    Does anyone know if you can build muscle while cutting. Also, what is the best way to go high reps lower eeight or low reps heavy weight?
    As a beginner or someone on gear can do both.
    Otherwise, no.

    Any rep range you want.
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    Yea ive just resently started like 4 months ago so it should work right and yea i heard that high reps was better for cutting i was just wondering what would work better
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    Originally Posted by comps View Post
    As a beginner or someone on gear can do both.
    Otherwise, no.

    Any rep range you want.
    You actually can build muscle on a deficit even if you're an intermediate or an advanced lifter(body recomposition) but it's simply not as efficient as using bulking/cutting cycles.
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    Originally Posted by CeBKa View Post
    You actually can build muscle on a deficit even if you're an intermediate or an advanced lifter.
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    Tell me about muscle gain for the advanced lifter, please?
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    Originally Posted by spiderman997 View Post
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    Tell me about muscle gain for the advanced lifter, please?
    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attach...1&d=1310193169
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    Originally Posted by 8andr3s8 View Post
    Yea ive just resently started like 4 months ago so it should work right and yea i heard that high reps was better for cutting i was just wondering what would work better
    High reps doesnt work better for cutting.
    Dont be a idiot like most people...Stick to the SAME if not heavier weight and rep range you were doing previously...
    Regardless if your looking to gain muscle mass on a cut. The two REAL things your aimming for in a cut is...
    -Drop body fat.
    -Keep as much muscle as possible during.

    Just before you ask, the idea of high reps for cuttings is stupid becuase, its not going to burn more fat, all it will do will cause more lactic acide build up and make you get that "burn" sensationg that makes you think "wow I'm burning fat".
    Cuttings easy bro Diet + Lift BIG! if your lucky your lifts will still increase while cutting, but I wouldnt exactly aim for size during a cut, since to a degree its counter-intuitive.
    Bench - 235lbs
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    Originally Posted by spiderman997 View Post
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    Tell me about muscle gain for the advanced lifter, please?
    Ohh you thought that i was talking about dat dere creatine? Not even once....
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    Touche. That is very slow cutting though, 9lbs of weight lost in 12 weeks, but they did indeed gain a small amount of LBM.
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    Yep but i've added "but it's simply not as efficient as using bulking/cutting cycles. " few seconds after your post :P.
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    Originally Posted by CeBKa View Post
    Yep but i've added "but it's simply not as efficient as using bulking/cutting cycles. " few seconds after your post :P.
    ICIC. Your post initially just came off as some dickish skinny kid who thought he had the secret to putting on 50lbs of LBM on a cut. Apologies.
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    Originally Posted by bobbysto View Post
    High reps doesnt work better for cutting.
    Dont be a idiot like most people...Stick to the SAME if not heavier weight and rep range you were doing previously...
    Regardless if your looking to gain muscle mass on a cut. The two REAL things your aimming for in a cut is...
    -Drop body fat.
    -Keep as much muscle as possible during.

    Just before you ask, the idea of high reps for cuttings is stupid becuase, its not going to burn more fat, all it will do will cause more lactic acide build up and make you get that "burn" sensationg that makes you think "wow I'm burning fat".
    Cuttings easy bro Diet + Lift BIG! if your lucky your lifts will still increase while cutting, but I wouldnt exactly aim for size during a cut, since to a degree its counter-intuitive.
    Yea thank s bro I just wanted to make sure about i was hearing because it sounded counter productive to make thanks for clearing that up
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    Originally Posted by spiderman997 View Post
    ICIC. Your post initially just came off as some dickish skinny kid who thought he had the secret to putting on 50lbs of LBM on a cut. Apologies.
    Im 15 years old and play football. Been working out since 7th grade. I weigh about 165. So im just curious because of teens having high test do you think I could build muscle on a cut because of that?
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    if you are a beginner and overweight, 20%+ BF yes, its easily possible, it is still possible for skinny fat people. 8-12 Reps bro.
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    I'm nowhere near the stats you're wanting to hear advice from, but I've done a little research, spoke to experienced guys at my gym and stuff.

    Some things I hear are:

    Oxidised fat loss. My understanding is -
    For example, complete your weight session using carbs as your primary energy source. Afterwards, when you are depleted of carbs, people theorise that your body will use its fat stores as its source of energy, even if you are ultimately eating above maintenance. People say, if by then end of the day you still eat a caloric surplus, you will still gain fat. There's much debating on this.

    Your body isn't simply built on the formula 'calories in vs calories out'. Calories isn't the only thing that builds muscle, you can still lose fat and build muscle if you are still consuming the right 'ingredients'; Protein, nutrient timing etc. BCAA I've heard are good when cutting.

    On the other end of the spectrum I've heard:

    If you aren't eating more calories than your body needs, you simply cant build muscle. You either gain muscle and fat..or..lose fat and SOME muscle.

    Remember, this I whatbIve been told, or have read. Its not my opinion. I need to a *little* ( ) more bulking until I can cut and say whether it was successful or not. However, I really do hope you can build muscle whilst cutting!
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    Unless you're on the cell tech you cannot build muscle and lose fat at exactly the same time. This is because your are either in an anabolic state or a catabolic state. For example you wake up, eat a bulking breakfast, go to the gym and then have a bulking post workout meal. But then for the rest of the day, you are in cutting mode. So theoretically you could gain muscle and lose fat in the same phase. This is really not efficient and wouldn't recommend it.
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    Originally Posted by bobbysto View Post
    High reps doesnt work better for cutting.
    Dont be a idiot like most people...Stick to the SAME if not heavier weight and rep range you were doing previously...
    Regardless if your looking to gain muscle mass on a cut. The two REAL things your aimming for in a cut is...
    -Drop body fat.
    -Keep as much muscle as possible during.

    Just before you ask, the idea of high reps for cuttings is stupid becuase, its not going to burn more fat, all it will do will cause more lactic acide build up and make you get that "burn" sensationg that makes you think "wow I'm burning fat".
    Cuttings easy bro Diet + Lift BIG! if your lucky your lifts will still increase while cutting, but I wouldnt exactly aim for size during a cut, since to a degree its counter-intuitive.
    you sound like you know what your talking about so i have a ? for you i hope you can help me with.i have been working out for about two years and feel that i have not made as much progress as i should of. i dont know what im doing wrong. right now i am going into my cut so i dont expect to gain muscle but for my next bulk i would like to know if you can offer some advice on what i should do
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    Yeah, I mean its pretty possible, I gained 3 lbs of lbm during about 2 months of cutting. Its not huge, but its possible.. Just make sure you're consuming enough protein
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    Guys what do u suggest to a skinny fat dude with moobs... cut/bulk or cut and bulk or strength training,calorie surplus or calorie deficit.. im lost 🙃.(currently at 65kg and around 33kg body muscle from the device body report thing)
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    People constantly misinterpret more muscle definition as "added lean mass". I'm convinced this is one of the biggest, if not the biggest contributor of confusion regarding this whole "gain muscle while losing fat" thing. People don't understand how much illusion of size being in better condition can give you.

    Originally Posted by ChainGun View Post
    Yeah, I mean its pretty possible, I gained 3 lbs of lbm during about 2 months of cutting. Its not huge, but its possible.. Just make sure you're consuming enough protein
    I doubt it, because the numbers you are throwing around are so tiny given the timeframe... you could have simply woken up holding less water one morning.
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    Originally Posted by Diamhea View Post
    People constantly misinterpret more muscle definition as "added lean mass". I'm convinced this is one of the biggest, if not the biggest contributor of confusion regarding this whole "gain muscle while losing fat" thing. People don't understand how much illusion of size being in better condition can give you.



    I doubt it, because the numbers you are throwing around are so tiny given the timeframe... you could have simply woken up holding less water one morning.
    It seems like little numbers, but my compound lifts increased by 10-20 lbs, so that's why I'm making that statement. I started my cut at 22-23% bodyfat at 220 lbs, dropped to 13% at 194 lbs (caliper tested). Math doesn't add up but after 10 lbs of water loss in the first week (209 @ 22%), I figured I gained a bit of muscle along with 1-2lbs of water retention. Its just my experience, it may not be the same for him but its not out of reason if your diet/lifting experience is right
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