Your sports thoughts for the day

[miacanesfan25]

After reviewing the remaining schedules of the Giants, Skins and Dallas I feel confident the Giants will win out and take the division. Unfortunately, we look weak this season and probably won't do much in the playoffs.

[Dre4]

lol at Raiders drafting. They will just waste the pic on a flashy trouble maker that will be a bust. I wouldn't wish that on Teo and especially not Bjorn

Al Davis is dead buddy. Nice try though.

[PerpetualMotion]

I'm impressed with Kaepernick. I was incredibly skeptical the whole time but holy **** he dropped 4 TDs on NE. That wasn't even my biggest surprise. Michael Crabtree actually played really well.

I was hesitant to say it but war Wilson. He should be ROY for sure now that RGIII is out.

Al Davis is dead buddy. Nice try though.

I was going to say the same thing. This is how you know we're Raiders fans.

That aside, I think we have problems in most areas. I think the Raiders should trade their pick, move down a few spots in the 1st round and acquire more picks.

I don't think he's going to do it, if for no other reason than the simple fact that I would never bet the over on 293 rushing yards in any two game span for any player against any two teams.

In his last 8 games, he's only had two games less than that and he's averaging 192 yards per game in his last three games, with 154 yard game against Chicago and a 210 game against Green Bay. I think he's more than capable of doing it, especially since he's proven he can run all over GB.

[Dre4]

I'm impressed with Kaepernick. I was incredibly skeptical the whole time but holy **** he dropped 4 TDs on NE. That wasn't even my biggest surprise. Michael Crabtree actually played really well.

I was hesitant to say it but war Wilson. He should be ROY for sure now that RGIII is out.

I was going to say the same thing. This is how you know we're Raiders fans.

That aside, I think we have problems in most areas. I think the Raiders should trade their pick, move down a few spots in the 1st round and acquire more picks.

What pisses me off is that I wanted Crabtree the year he came out. Kinda past that considering I have a DHB shirt lol. Kaepernick's success makes me wonder if we should break out TP and see what he can do.

Would also vote for Wilson as ROY, but Luck is hard to ignore.

I wouldn't mind dangling DMC if we can get a half decent pick for him. Our first rounder will have to be defense though. I thought they would suck this year on that side of the ball, but fuk they are more porous than a broken tampon.

Re. MVP, I say if the Vikes make the playoffs it has to go to AP. If not, I'd probably give it Peyton.

[FitnessCPA]

In his last 8 games, he's only had two games less than that and he's averaging 192 yards per game in his last three games, with 154 yard game against Chicago and a 210 game against Green Bay. I think he's more than capable of doing it, especially since he's proven he can run all over GB.

I agree with you. He's capable, but if I had to bet I'd say he won't do it. But it's not a bet I'd like to take either way.

[PerpetualMotion]

The Jets piss me off. Stop playing Sanchez. He's ****ing terrible. Throws a pick in 9 pass attempts. Jesus Christ. Get him out. Fire Rex Ryan. Do something. The Jets are painful to watch on offence.

[Lvisaa2]

I like how they give tebow one series and he fails to get any protection. They put Sanchez back in and he throw a pick. Yet he is still in

[PerpetualMotion]

I like how they give tebow one series and he fails to get any protection. They put Sanchez back in and he throw a pick. Yet he is still in

Rex Ryan isn't all the way there. When Tebow was on the field, I loled at the announcer: "I don't get these series of plays. What are they doing?" Yeah, let Tebow throw, man. Stop making him run. He's a damn QB. We'll probably see Sanchez taken out after the 2nd and whatever QB is in will lead them to a comeback but Sanchez will start the next game anyways.

[determined4000]

Tebow 0-1 with a sack..
and higher QB rating than sanchez (more than double)
lol

[PerpetualMotion]

Rex Ryan is so fired. I'd fire him on the spot. They had a legitimate chance of winning but Sanchez throws 4 picks to 1 TD. How can you actually want to leave a guy like that in there?

[ThousandEyes]

The last 2 plays of that game were embarrassing to watch. How can either team play like that and be considered "professional"

[determined4000]

Week 15 Power Rankings Update
1 atl Put it all together in week 15
2 ne Not panicking
3 hou AFC #1 seed
4 denv Bye week driver's seat
5 SF Possibly the most complete team but I don’t trust a first year QB in the playoffs yet
6 gb
7 Sea Destroy another opponent
8 Indy Played solid against Hou
9 WA In the Division seat
10 Balt In the division seat
11 Minn have tie-breaker over Chicago, All Day AP
12 Dal Are in if they win out
13 Cinci In the 6 seed and keep it with a win over Pitt
14 nyg Need help from Dallas and WA now
15 Chi Now they need help but have easy matchups the rest of the way
16 Pitt Need to beat Cinci and get help
17 NO Have legit beef with the commish
18 TB destoryed by conference foe
19 Stl Up and down up and down
20 Mia Surprisingly decent record
21 Tenn Remember when CJ was good
22 Clev Couldn't beat Captain Kirk
23 SD What happened to Philip, Norv Gone
24 Car Rivera gone
25 NYJ How can they stick with Sanchez another week?
26 Oak Palmer's life is limited
27 Phi Remember when this team was a division favorite
28 Det Remember when this team was a division contender
29 Arz Remember when they were 4-0
30 Buff Streaking
31 Jax Searching for an NFL caliber player
32 KC No offense. No offense whatsoever.

QB
1 Manning Takes top slot after Brady's 2 INT game
2 Brady
3 Rodgers
4 RG3
5 Tony
WR
1 Megatron Going for Rice's yardage record
2 Marshall
3 Andre
4 AJ Green
5 Wayne
DEF
1 Sea
2 SF
3 Denv
4 Houston
5 Chi
MVP
1 AP going for the record. Wants the record
2 Manning
3 Brady
4 Watt
5 Von Miller
RB
1 AP Is there a discussion?
2 Foster
3 Lynch
4 Morris
5 Charles/Martin
TE
1 Gronk He'll be back week 16
2 Witten
3 Hernandez
4 Graham
5 Gonzalez
ROY
1 RG3 I bet he returns week 16
2 Wilson
3 Luck
4 Morris
5 Martin
Bottom 5
1. Mark Sanchez
2. Sanchez' fumble
3. Sanchez' 4 INTs
4. Sanchez' Passer rating
5. Rex' decision to stick with Sanchez

Bonus stat: Sanchez has 50 TOs in the last two years

[sawoobley]

I like how they give tebow one series and he fails to get any protection. They put Sanchez back in and he throw a pick. Yet he is still in

The fans want to see Tebow. You would think they would want to play him for that reason alone.



http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/16/ma...w-go.html?_r=0

[psychodiver9]

Rex Ryan isn't all the way there. When Tebow was on the field, I loled at the announcer: "I don't get these series of plays. What are they doing?" Yeah, let Tebow throw, man. Stop making him run. He's a damn QB. We'll probably see Sanchez taken out after the 2nd and whatever QB is in will lead them to a comeback but Sanchez will start the next game anyways.

Lol at tebow "being a QB" what ha he done to prove he can throw? Yes he's a better option than Sanchez at this point but don't act like he has a golden arm. He can't throw from the pocket

[The Solution]

Rex Ryan is so fired. I'd fire him on the spot. They had a legitimate chance of winning but Sanchez throws 4 picks to 1 TD. How can you actually want to leave a guy like that in there?

Week in and Week out hes not getting any better, I dont see how ryan continues to go back to him..
It honestly is mindblowing..

I have been saying this since week 1. Sanchez is not a franchise QB, he was spoiled at USC with all the talent around him.

[PerpetualMotion]

Lol at tebow "being a QB" what ha he done to prove he can throw? Yes he's a better option than Sanchez at this point but don't act like he has a golden arm. He can't throw from the pocket

I never said he has a golden arm. You jump to hilarious conclusions because you have a deep-seeded hate for Tebow. The entire point would be to allow him to throw to see whether he's a viable starting QB that allows the team to produce necessary offence and win since the present QB is a turnover machine. Herp. It's called logic. I never said he would be a great passer. The play calling with him on the field was dumb. How can you deny that? Yes, he's a QB, get over it. The entire point is that the Jets need to find out whether he can produce wins or not. If he can then he can. If he can't then he can't. Sanchez isn't the way, though, and making Tebow only run is unproductive and unrevealing. If Tebow isn't the way then you put int McElroy. If he isn't the way then guess what? You just found out you need to find a starting QB. Taa daa! Magic.

Week in and Week out hes not getting any better, I dont see how ryan continues to go back to him..
It honestly is mindblowing..

I have been saying this since week 1. Sanchez is not a franchise QB, he was spoiled at USC with all the talent around him.

I'm surprised they haven't gave McElroy a starting shot. Not sure why Rex is so loyal to Sanchez but I think it's going to cost him his job.

[miacanesfan25]

The fans want to see Tebow. You would think they would want to play him for that reason alone.



http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/16/ma...w-go.html?_r=0

I never said he has a golden arm. You jump to hilarious conclusions because you have a deep-seeded hate for Tebow. The entire point would be to allow him to throw to see whether he's a viable starting QB that allows the team to produce necessary offence and win since the present QB is a turnover machine. Herp. It's called logic. I never said he would be a great passer. The play calling with him on the field was dumb. How can you deny that? Yes, he's a QB, get over it. The entire point is that the Jets need to find out whether he can produce wins or not. If he can then he can. If he can't then he can't. Sanchez isn't the way, though, and making Tebow only run is unproductive and unrevealing. If Tebow isn't the way then you put int McElroy. If he isn't the way then guess what? You just found out you need to find a starting QB. Taa daa! Magic.



I'm surprised they haven't gave McElroy a starting shot. Not sure why Rex is so loyal to Sanchez but I think it's going to cost him his job.

Psycho has been arguing against Tebow all season without seeing what he's capable of. He led the Broncos to the playoffs last year, but we still didn't get to see him fully run the offense and let the ball fly. Obviously he didn't get a fair shot in NY which is funny considering it's pretty obvious they brought him in for publicity and aren't using him even though it would bring in a ton of attention. It really is mind boggling that considering how poorly Sanchez is playing that Ryan is still going with him. I'm assuming Sanchez is smoking some pole to keep his job. That's the only logical reason I can think of. I just can't understand why the brass is letting this happen. If I was the owner I would have made changes a long time ago. I understand it's a business and there's alot of money involved, but without fans, you've got nothing AND THE Jet fans aren't happy right now. They're shooting themselves in the foot. Maybe this a ploy to intentionally suck for some draft position and they're afraid if Tebow starts they'll win a few and mess it up.

[psychodiver9]

Its just funny to me that everyone knows more than the paid pros. Tebow "led" his team to the playoffs yet the evaluators that saw him everyday got rid of him. Oh and look they are better without him. Tebow has everyday in practice to beat out a terrible QB and can't do it. He clearly hasn't proven to anyone who matters that he can be a successful NFL qb. Remember the jets were really the only team that wanted him

[The Solution]

Its just funny to me that everyone knows more than the paid pros. Tebow "led" his team to the playoffs yet the evaluators that saw him everyday got rid of him. Oh and look they are better without him. Tebow has everyday in practice to beat out a terrible QB and can't do it. He clearly hasn't proven to anyone who matters that he can be a successful NFL qb. Remember the jets were really the only team that wanted him

I agree but we saw tebow lead the broncos to the playoffs and yet Ryan keeps with a guy who throws picks week in week out

Runs into his own lineman and fumbles
Fumbles on the 2

The guy has made enough mistakes to cost them the season

It boggles me why he is so prime to him when the jets thrive off the run and D which they don't have

Giving it to Sanchez in his hands is a loss

[miacanesfan25]

Its just funny to me that everyone knows more than the paid pros. Tebow "led" his team to the playoffs yet the evaluators that saw him everyday got rid of him. Oh and look they are better without him. Tebow has everyday in practice to beat out a terrible QB and can't do it. He clearly hasn't proven to anyone who matters that he can be a successful NFL qb. Remember the jets were really the only team that wanted him

We don't need to be a paid pro to see something is very wrong. This isn't rocket science. What happens in practice means squat when your starting qb is terribleat gametime and your team is 6-8 with no hope of making the playoffs. If you were Ryan at this point would you honestly keep doing what isn't working or take any chance you had available to try and salvage your job?

[ko300zx]

We don't need to be a paid pro to see something is very wrong. This isn't rocket science. What happens in practice means squat when your starting qb is terribleat gametime and your team is 6-8 with no hope of making the playoffs. If you were Ryan at this point would you honestly keep doing what isn't working or take any chance you had available to try and salvage your job?

I think that ship has sailed.

[PerpetualMotion]

Its just funny to me that everyone knows more than the paid pros. Tebow "led" his team to the playoffs yet the evaluators that saw him everyday got rid of him. Oh and look they are better without him. Tebow has everyday in practice to beat out a terrible QB and can't do it. He clearly hasn't proven to anyone who matters that he can be a successful NFL qb. Remember the jets were really the only team that wanted him

Why would any team keep someone who isn't entirely proven when you can have one of the best QBs that has ever lived (Manning)? A **** load of teams were interested in Manning and that's because he makes them a Super Bowl contender immediately.

And please tell me how you know Tebow or McElroy have a chance of beating Sanchez in practice? Because that's how it's supposed to be done? Obviously, but tell me why you think such soundness exists amongst the NY Jets' staff because I haven't seen such logic. Sanchez causes the Jets to lose. 17 picks, 7 fumbles lost, 13 Touchdowns, 3rd worst YPG passing (team) in the NFL. Alex Smith, who sported a 100+ passer rating, got dropped by the 49ers but the Jets keep Sanchez. Makes sense, man. The Jets won't abandon ship on their terrible QB. If it makes you feel any better, it could be McElroy or Jesus Christ for all I care. Give someone else a chance in game and let's see what happens. McElroy made a comeback win as soon as Sanchez was subbed out and that was the first game of his entire career.

[Lvisaa2]

Oh and look they are better without him

Not sure if srs. They got one of the best, if not the best, QB of all time. Of course they are better. Where is anyone arguing that Tebow is a better QB than Manning? Strong argument.

[midcoastking33]

The jets are sunk. 17 mil against the cap because of sanchez. tebow is not worth building a team around, which is what has to happen in order for him to have any sort of success. the gm is gone, sparano is gone, ryan possibly although that's 50/50

[miacanesfan25]

Well so much for that. Ryan announced Sanchez is riding the pine in favor of McElroy on Sunday.

[psychodiver9]

I've said before that I agree that benching Sanchez is the right move. He's awful. Clearly tebow isn't the next best QB on the roster as evidenced by the move today

[determined4000]

Which quarterbacks (all of whom have started + Tebow) will have a job somewhere next year, considering the limited draft prospects?
1. Vick
2. A Smith
3. Sanchez
4. Tebow
5. Cousins
6. Skelton
7. Kobb
8. Lindley
9. Quinn
10. Cassel
11. Palmer
12. Henne
13. Gabbert
14. Ponder

Personally if I were running a team close to contention with a bad QB (minny), why not go after a Smith or Vick?
Or if you are a weaker team, I dont see the point in reaching for Barkley or Geno and would rather have a 1-2 year stop-gap QB and take someone in 2014-2015.

Interesting NBA notes:
1. Chicago was a favorite last year but widely discounted coming into this year because Rose is expected to miss most of the eay. Yet they are doing fine without him and will only get better when he returns. I think they could easily make the Eastern conference finals.

2. The Laker, 76er, Magic trade had the Lakers looking like the clear winner with Orlando practically getting nothing in return for Dwight and Philly getting Bynum who has yet to play. Yet... the Lakers actually have the worst record out of the 3. Lol
Mini Power Rankings
1. OKC - no Harden has yet to be a problem
2. Heat - When you have the best playerin the league, you can overcome a lot of shortcomings
3. NYK (cant believe this)
4. SA - aging but do have a mix in of youth
5. LAC- Best Pt differential outside the Thunder
6. Memphis- no stars but well-built
7. Brooklyn- yes, spending money does work
8. Chicago will be serious contenders once DRose is back

[The Solution]

More talk..

Sanchez has 50 turnovers in the 2 season that is more than Phil Rivers at 47.. Something was clear as day that its his time to go. If they get rid of Sanchez he is guaranteed 8.1 Million and they are already 20 million over their Cap (The Jets)

So is it worth the money to trade or get rid of him?
Will Tebow be able to lead the jets into the playoffs or McElroy?

IMO the jets should draft or free agent a QB, someone with experience, someone who knows how to stay in the pocket and be a play maker. I would take the cap hit and just get rid of sanchez..

[psychodiver9]

Not sure if srs. They got one of the best, if not the best, QB of all time. Of course they are better. Where is anyone arguing that Tebow is a better QB than Manning? Strong argument.

the move looks like a no brained right now but please remember it was extremely risky. You were signing an aging QB coming off a major injury and nobody knew if Peyton would be himself or washed up. My point is if you have a "franchise" QB in place you don't take that risk. Teams that went after Peyton had major QB questions. No stable teams were willing to take that risk.

People on here act like tebow is getting a raw deal because he has earned the right to play and is a good QB. My point is 1. the team he "led" to the playoffs didn't want him and took a major risk 2. only one team wanted to trade for him and 3. they don't want him to play QB

Numerous talent evaluators have Come to the same conclusion I have yet I'm just a "hater" and all of you are right

[Lvisaa2]

No stable teams were willing to take that risk.

A team that made the NFC championship was willing to take that risk. I guess that isn't a "stable" team? I think most were unwilling to take the risk for the price tag that came along with Manning, but even a mediocre Manning is better than most QBs currently starting.

People on here act like tebow is getting a raw deal because he has earned the right to play and is a good QB. My point is 1. the team he "led" to the playoffs didn't want him and took a major risk 2. only one team wanted to trade for him and 3. they don't want him to play QB

Numerous talent evaluators have Come to the same conclusion I have yet I'm just a "hater" and all of you are right

1. Manning wasn't a major risk. Sorry, not gonna buy that. 2. Is incorrect considering both the Jets and the Jags wanted him. 3. Are you really using the Jets as a standard of talent evaluation? The team that moved up to draft Sanchez and have continued to play him despite being awful.

I'll provide you something real. He. Wins. There are QBs(think Romo) who fail to take more talented teams to the playoffs, but he did it and won a playoff game against one of the highest regarded teams year in and year out. Say what you want, but he is getting a raw deal. Until he proves that he can't win, then why wouldn't you play him?(especially considering the Jets situation) I don't see anyone saying he is a traditional QB or a polished one, but he gets wins. Look at Roethlisberger's first year, he averaged 187 yards and less than 1 TD pass a game. Tebow - 130 and over a TD pass a game, not to mention his rushing stats.

Oh and don't forget this...