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    Bulk gone astray

    I have been bulking since January at about 500kcal over maintenance (total about 2600kcal). My starting weight was 152lbs. At the end of February I was 158lbs. In the first week of March I got sick and did not lift for a week and went down to 155lbs. After a one week layoff I started lifitng again and am now at 160lbs. I basically gained 5 pounds in two weeks after being sick.

    The overall weight progression on paper looks okay to me, but I physically feel too bloated (also everyone comments on how my face is getting puffier). Also other measuremets increased over the past two weeks. I went from a 10mm caliper reading next to the navel to 16mm. Also, my waist went from 77cm to 80cm. In addition, my overall calorie consumption is creeping up toward 3000kcal.

    I would like to lose some of this bodyfat and am thinking about reducing my calories to about 2200 kcal until my bodyfat level decreases. I figure after one or two weeks I will increase calories again. Is this advisable or should I be doing something else? I do not want to lose muscle mass but feel that my bodyfat is too high. Maybe I should go back to 2600kcal and maintain my weight for a week or two, but I am not sure if this will solve the bodyfat.

    My goal is to get to about 170lbs, then cut down to 165lbs, and then go from there. Probably try to hit 175. The heaviest I have ever been was 165 when I was lifting like crazy so 175 would be great.
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    A daily surplus of 500 is a little higher than optimal. You can nly gain muscle so fast, so the higher your intake, the more of the weight gained is going to tend to be fat. So you might be right in cutting it back by a few hundred. If you're gaining 2.5 pounds a week, that equals about a 1250 excess a day, not 500- odds are your calculations are off (which everyone's varies, the formulas can never be perfectly accuratre. You're metablism is likely a little slower than you thuoght). I'd definitely cut back by several hundred. Remember you can only gain .5lbs of fat a week, so cutting back will probalby be helpful with slowing down the gain and especially the fat gain.
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    Originally Posted by thegymbum View Post
    A daily surplus of 500 is a little higher than optimal. You can nly gain muscle so fast, so the higher your intake, the more of the weight gained is going to tend to be fat. So you might be right in cutting it back by a few hundred. If you're gaining 2.5 pounds a week, that equals about a 1250 excess a day, not 500- odds are your calculations are off (which everyone's varies, the formulas can never be perfectly accuratre. You're metablism is likely a little slower than you thuoght). I'd definitely cut back by several hundred. Remember you can only gain .5lbs of fat a week, so cutting back will probalby be helpful with slowing down the gain and especially the fat gain.
    His surplus isnt necessarily 1250 and you can gain more than .5lbs of fat a week
    If a 250 lb BB'der is 500 over maintenance he won't gain the same as you at 500 over maintenance.
    you would gain far more
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    Originally Posted by determined4000 View Post
    His surplus isnt necessarily 1250 and you can gain more than .5lbs of fat a week
    If a 250 lb BB'der is 500 over maintenance he won't gain the same as you at 500 over maintenance.
    you would gain far more
    I also think the rapid weight gain was due to the fact that my calorie intake declined in the week I was not working out and then suddenly working out and increasing calories stimualted much more growth. I was only consuming around 2000 calories a day during that one week off (had a stomach virus).
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    I do smething similar. I use a tanita scale(which is fairly accurate) to measure my body fat. I measure once after I wake up and use the rest room and once befre bed. I take the average of these 2 measurements to determine my food intake for the following day. If my average fat percentage is above 15.9% I eat a little less calories, if it's below, I eat in surplus of calories the following day.
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    Originally Posted by 180degreechange View Post
    I do smething similar. I use a tanita scale(which is fairly accurate) to measure my body fat.
    What lol? It's not accurate at all
    Yes... I've started a log - http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=159357321
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    Originally Posted by AlwaysTryin View Post
    What lol? It's not accurate at all
    Accurate as in, for myself. Since it has my age, sex, activity level and height in there, it will be able to give me MY readings over time.

    I'm not saying when it displays 15.1% that that is my fat level, what I'm saying is when it displays 15.1% whenl ast week it showed 14% means i have had a fat increase.
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    Originally Posted by AlwaysTryin View Post
    What lol? It's not accurate at all
    Agreed! I actually have a tanita scale too, and I don't think it actually measures body fat, I'm pretty sure it calculates it based on your BMI, because it's the same when I'm wearing shoes, but changes if I put in a lower height and thus falsely increase my BMI. Agreed that it's nt accurate.
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    Originally Posted by determined4000 View Post
    His surplus isnt necessarily 1250 and you can gain more than .5lbs of fat a week
    If a 250 lb BB'der is 500 over maintenance he won't gain the same as you at 500 over maintenance.
    you would gain far more
    Sorry, I meant to say you can only gain .5lbs of MUSCLE a week. My error.

    However, 500 calories is still 1/7 a pound and an extra 500 calories will cause anyone to gain 1/7 of a pound, no matter their size. It doesn't matter if someone's 250lbs or half that, they're still going to gain the same amount of weight for the same amount of surplus - the fact that 3,500 calories = one pound of body weight doesn't change based on body size...
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    Originally Posted by bball31595 View Post
    Agreed! I actually have a tanita scale too, and I don't think it actually measures body fat, I'm pretty sure it calculates it based on your BMI, because it's the same when I'm wearing shoes, but changes if I put in a lower height and thus falsely increase my BMI. Agreed that it's nt accurate.
    Exactly how is your scale able to measure you're body composition with shoes on when it sends an electrical pulse through your feet? Mine will not work unless I'm barfeet.
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