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    delay in what we eat and effects

    What's the average delay of fat loss/gain when we eat something.

    Let's assume I ate 5000 calories over maintenence today when would fat start growing? Immediately?

    What about if I ate 1000 calories below? Immediately?

    Or a few days?

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    umm...the body is in flux.
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    Your body and its processes aren't set in stone my man. Its not that easy to tell, you could eat 5000 calories (2500 over maintenance), and just **** out 200-2400 of the excess calories... Or you could hold onto a good deal of them. Dont over think it and stick to your plan.
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    Good point!

    Thanks.

    The reason why I asked was because I changed my diet a bit, what I was eating, but same amount of calories. It made a different in body composition, within 2 days, but I wasn't sure I could attribute it to that or many other variables.
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    Originally Posted by 180degreechange View Post
    Good point!

    Thanks.

    The reason why I asked was because I changed my diet a bit, what I was eating, but same amount of calories. It made a different in body composition, within 2 days, but I wasn't sure I could attribute it to that or many other variables.
    Different macro nutrients have different thermic effect/cost of feeding. protein takes the most calories to digest, so if you lowered protein and replaced those calories with fat or carbs, you could in theory change body composition on the same calories. The TEF of protein is 25%, carbs is 10-15%, and fat is 3%.

    This is what our nutrition books at school say, could be wrong. But 2 days wouldn't have a noticeable difference, its water retention.
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    Originally Posted by hilltopper1993 View Post
    The TEF of protein is 25%, carbs is 10-15%, and fat is 3%.
    This seems off
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    Originally Posted by 180degreechange View Post
    What's the average delay of fat loss/gain when we eat something.

    Let's assume I ate 5000 calories over maintenence today when would fat start growing? Immediately?

    What about if I ate 1000 calories below? Immediately?

    Or a few days?

    Thanks
    Why would there be a delay? The macros have to be metabolised one way or the other. After digestion, carbs wind up raising your blood sugar, being stored in the liver or the muscles. Protein is either stored as muscle or converted to glucose. Fat raises FFAs in the blood stream and/or is sent to adipose storage.

    If you are asking how your scale weight would respond, that's different - shifts in water weight / waste products in response to diet changes are a huge confounder here.
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    OP, read this page for more information about how your body digests food and different macronutrients. Here's the intro, see link for more:

    When you consume food, it must pass through the stomach and into the intestines before it is absorbed into the body. The process of muscle contractions that push food along the esophageous and into the stomach, and then from the entry of the intestines along the length of them, is called 'peristalsis'. Its speed can vary.

    Food ingested loses its form in the acid bath known as the stomach, and turns into a large indistinguishable ball called 'chyme'. This ball is pushed through the intestines by peristalsis, and the outer layer gets 'eaten' (or taken up) by the walls of the intestine into the body. This is the process of nutrient 'absorption'.

    So basically, there may not be much difference between your breakfast and your morning snack, as the morning snack could just meet up with and fuse with the hunk of chyme that your breakfast has become. The chyme does not stay in the intestines for a set time, but it varies.
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    Just know this, once nutrients are absorbed in their many forms, the body works as fast as possible to remove them from the blood stream and put them in their proper place. One big factor is the time it takes to hydrolyze, repackage and absorb, that of course could depend on the size of the meal.
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    Originally Posted by AlwaysTryin View Post
    This seems off
    think, protein is a big complex structured thingy/unit. It takes more energy to break protein down into a usable form that a carb, because carbs are more or less just sugar/chains of sugar.

    I don't exactly know why, but I promise there is a lot of studies out there that say something to that effect.
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    If your **** starts to really stink, you are eating too much protein (it is either sulfur or ammonia waste, I forget which).
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    Originally Posted by SoloX5 View Post
    If your **** starts to really stink, you are eating too much protein (it is either sulfur or ammonia waste, I forget which).
    so if your **** smells good you know your protein intake is correct?
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    Originally Posted by Dexter3000 View Post
    OP, read this page for more information about how your body digests food and different macronutrients. Here's the intro, see link for more:
    Thanks for the article, I just started reading it and it's very interesting.

    Another question, are there any additional benefits to chewing our food more finely into small pieces creating a mush like texture versus swallowing chunks of food that may not be as well chewed? Example chunks of steaks versus finely chewed steaks.

    I'm assuming the answer would be less energy used towards the breakdown of food and our bodies working more optimally and less 'acid' is needed to be released from our 'insert organ name here' to breakdown the food?

    Reason why I ask, I'm a fast eater and I have a tendency to swallow my food quickly rather than chew, breakdown, enjoy the flavor and swallow. I figured if I read or saw some benefits of chewing my food better, it would help me break my habbit.
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