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    Originally Posted by Cinderblock View Post
    so you phaggots dissing the hodgetwins must not have heard the part where they say "it's only advice, you can do whatever the fuk you wanna do".

    I know it's easy to miss, it's only in 100% of their videos.
    But they are saying things which are factually wrong.

    Originally Posted by timestretch View Post
    of course you're going to lose weight on a caloric deficit but good luck trying to preserve any muscle, and have fun with your awful body composition.
    So a calorie deficit with ample protein and weight training and still incorporating Twinkies every day - what will happen?
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    The Hodge twins are dumb as fawk, they give bad advice end of story. Lol at them mistakenly thinking that 1 gram of fat is equal to 4 calories. Ian knows what he's talking about from what I've seen. He isn't huge, but similarly Rippetoe is not the strongest man in the world, but I'd take his training advice over pretty much anyone because he is a world class coach who understands the theory behind everything he advises.
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    It's funny cause all of Hodgetwin's subscribers take his advice seriously... And the hodgetwins actually think their advice is correct. Mind=blown at how stupid some people could be.
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    Originally Posted by mynameisuntz View Post
    But they are saying things which are factually wrong.



    So a calorie deficit with ample protein and weight training and still incorporating Twinkies every day - what will happen?
    sounds like IIFYM to me brah
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    This guy is getting famous for being an argumentative bitch and regurgitating facts he found on the internet.

    If a 12 year old girl was making this same point would you still just look at the "facts" and not at whos delivering it?
    This phaggot has achieved nothing and spending hours looking up nutritional case studies to try and burn other youtube channels for attention is just a beta move.

    If he had anything useful to say he'd be saying it and not wasting everyones time trying to discredit other peoples ideas for views.

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    AFAIK already exposed to be a troll, starting strength works for most people. He would probably look decent after a cut.
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    Originally Posted by mynameisuntz View Post
    But they are saying things which are factually wrong.



    So a calorie deficit with ample protein and weight training and still incorporating Twinkies every day - what will happen?
    i have no idea, i'm not a nutritionist so i wont even answer it, but i'll let the IIFYM'ers do their thing while i eat clean healthy foods on my bulk/cut because i want to feed my body only the most nutritious food sources, i see it like putting top quality oil in your car or re-used dirty 5 dollar oil you get from a servo. inb4 you IIFYM'ers bash me for my opinion because you have to defend the IIFYM honor
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    Originally Posted by SlipperyGypsy View Post
    This guy is getting famous for being an argumentative bitch and regurgitating facts he found on the internet.

    If a 12 year old girl was making this same point would you still just look at the "facts" and not at whos delivering it?
    This phaggot has achieved nothing and spending hours looking up nutritional case studies to try and burn other youtube channels for attention is just a beta move.

    If he had anything useful to say he'd be saying it and not wasting everyones time trying to discredit other peoples ideas.

    /topic
    Yes, I would. The truth is the truth regardless of the medium through which it is presented. It's pathetic to see grown men subscribing to a horribly dumb logical fallacy dubbed 'appeal to authority.'

    Originally Posted by timestretch View Post
    i have no idea, i'm not a nutritionist so i wont even answer it, but i'll let the IIFYM'ers do their thing while i eat clean healthy foods on my bulk/cut because i want to feed my body only the most nutritious food sources, i see it like putting top quality oil in your car or re-used dirty 5 dollar oil you get from a servo. inb4 you IIFYM'ers bash me for my opinion because you have to defend the IIFYM honor
    If you give your body all the micronutrients it needs, is there a point to feeding it more micronutrients vs. feeding it, say, a scoop of ice cream?

    If your body needs "X" micronutrients, then what's the point of feeding it "X+1" when you can just feed it "X" and then eat tastier things?

    See what I'm getting at?
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    Originally Posted by SlipperyGypsy View Post
    This guy is getting famous for being an argumentative bitch and regurgitating facts he found on the internet.

    If a 12 year old girl was making this same point would you still just look at the "facts" and not at whos delivering it?
    This phaggot has achieved nothing and spending hours looking up nutritional case studies to try and burn other youtube channels for attention is just a beta move.

    If he had anything useful to say he'd be saying it and not wasting everyones time trying to discredit other peoples ideas for views.

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    Originally Posted by timestretch View Post
    i have no idea, i'm not a nutritionist so i wont even answer it, but i'll let the IIFYM'ers do their thing while i eat clean healthy foods on my bulk/cut because i want to feed my body only the most nutritious food sources, i see it like putting top quality oil in your car or re-used dirty 5 dollar oil you get from a servo. inb4 you IIFYM'ers bash me for my opinion because you have to defend the IIFYM honor
    IIFYM does not equate to rolling around in ice cream and cheesecake all day bro lol I eat chicken breast just like you sometimes too.
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    Originally Posted by timestretch View Post
    i have no idea, i'm not a nutritionist so i wont even answer it, but i'll let the IIFYM'ers do their thing while i eat clean healthy foods on my bulk/cut because i want to feed my body only the most nutritious food sources, i see it like putting top quality oil in your car or re-used dirty 5 dollar oil you get from a servo. inb4 you IIFYM'ers bash me for my opinion because you have to defend the IIFYM honor
    I don't think any IIFYM supporters would say you're wrong for doing that, in fact most IIFYM'ers eat 'clean' foods. Its because of people spreading misinformation about militant consumption of food every 3 hours and eating only brown rice, broccoli and chicken breast or you'll gain fat that the shyt storm starts.
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    Originally Posted by mynameisuntz View Post
    Yes, I would. The truth is the truth regardless of the medium through which it is presented. It's pathetic to see grown men subscribing to a horribly dumb logical fallacy dubbed 'appeal to authority.'



    If you give your body all the micronutrients it needs, is there a point to feeding it more micronutrients vs. feeding it, say, a scoop of ice cream?

    If your body needs "X" micronutrients, then what's the point of feeding it "X+1" when you can just feed it "X" and then eat tastier things?

    See what I'm getting at?
    so essentially you're saying everything in moderation is fine? i agree with that, but if you're saying 150g+ protein a day with the rest of your diet icecream and twinkies it might work in short term but good luck with your diabetes goals of 2020

    why the fuk do i even post in these threads actually
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    Originally Posted by mynameisuntz View Post
    But they are saying things which are factually wrong.



    So a calorie deficit with ample protein and weight training and still incorporating Twinkies every day - what will happen?
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    Originally Posted by timestretch View Post
    so essentially you're saying everything in moderation is fine? i agree with that, but if you're saying 150g+ protein a day with the rest of your diet icecream and twinkies it might work in short term but good luck with your diabetes goals of 2020

    why the fuk do i even post in these threads actually
    1) Yes, everything in moderation.
    2) Fasting = increased insulin sensitivity = decreased risk of diabetes, and cutting = long-term fasting. Therefore, a caloric deficit composed entirely of pure sugar will STILL reduce your risk of diabetes.

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    fukc this dude!!!! hogdetwins are the bawssssss!!
    oh and by the way.. its just advise you dont have to follow it, you can do whatever the F***********CK you wanna do!
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    Originally Posted by timestretch View Post
    so essentially you're saying everything in moderation is fine? i agree with that, but if you're saying 150g+ protein a day with the rest of your diet icecream and twinkies it might work in short term but good luck with your diabetes goals of 2020

    why the fuk do i even post in these threads actually
    I'm so sick of fuking retards saying things like this in IIFYM threads. No one is saying eating ice cream all day is going to be better for your health, but it is not going to affect your body composition.
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    Originally Posted by BlingthaBeast View Post
    fukc this dude!!!! hogdetwins are the bawssssss!!
    oh and by the way.. its just advise you dont have to follow it, you can do whatever the F***********CK you wanna do!
    The phuck? Are you like 15 years old..











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    Hodgetwins are just sharing what they do and the information/knowledge THEY used to get where THEY are at. They got to where they are at with their broscience, and people want to know that broscience. Don't get all butthurt.
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    Originally Posted by Cinderblock View Post
    so you phaggots dissing the hodgetwins must not have heard the part where they say "it's only advice, you can do whatever the fuk you wanna do".

    I know it's easy to miss, it's only in 100% of their videos.
    Why give advice when it's utterly ****? These two twats think that a gram of fat is worth 4 calories. All they are doing is perpetuating misinformation.

    plsgo

    Originally Posted by timestretch View Post
    so essentially you're saying everything in moderation is fine? i agree with that, but if you're saying 150g+ protein a day with the rest of your diet icecream and twinkies it might work in short term but good luck with your diabetes goals of 2020

    why the fuk do i even post in these threads actually
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    Hodgetwins are just sharing what they do and the misinformation/knowledge THEY used to get where THEY are at. They got to where they are at with their broscience, and people want to know that broscience. Don't get all butthurt.
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    I was literally coming to the misc to post this.

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    Originally Posted by mynameisuntz View Post
    But they are saying things which are factually wrong.



    So a calorie deficit with ample protein and weight training and still incorporating Twinkies every day - what will happen?
    You will lose weight, well said sir.
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    Originally Posted by Cumulonimbus View Post
    Why give advice when it's utterly ****? These two twats think that a gram of fat is worth 4 calories. All they are doing is perpetuating misinformation.

    plsgo



    Why the fukc do you even use extreme examples? Common sense, acquire some please.
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    Here's the thing though, they have results. Ian looks like that guy in the gym that tries to help everyone but can't help themselves (no hate.) And if he was anorexic before he started lifting then I would rather get Furious Pete's advice on dieting and training since he went from one extreme to another.
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    Originally Posted by DolobMe View Post
    Here's the thing though, they have results. Ian looks like that guy in the gym that tries to help everyone but can't help themselves (no hate.) And if he was anorexic before he started lifting then I would rather get Furious Pete's advice on dieting and training since he went from one extreme to another.
    You can't really believe this do you? Just because someone practices something and gets results doesn't mean they are doing it optimally. Look ITT alone, there are people who practice IIFYM, they know the science behind it and they have incorporated it into there diet and training philosophies. The hodgetwins lift but they lack understanding of the mechanisms that drive muscle growth.
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