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    Never tried craze, wouldn't mind to though. But as for C4 vs white flood, I'd go the unpopular route and say C4. I didn't get much out of the new white flood.
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    Originally Posted by TimMason91 View Post
    you'll love white flood man. it was great.


    Wonder what half a scoop of WF, and half a scoop of C4 would be like
    Will do it next week, 1 Scoop WF+ 1/2 Friction = Insane energy+crazy pump?
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    Go with C4. Really can't go wrong with either WF or C4.
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    Originally Posted by TimMason91 View Post
    Thanks man, I think i'm going to go with C4 blue raz, if I don't like it, might go with Craze/WF.

    I hear CRAZE might be banned soon anyways.
    No chance.

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    Lol I assure you that it will not be.
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    Originally Posted by TimMason91 View Post
    I don't think I've heard ONE bad thing about either product (C4/Craze). Which is making it hard for me to choose which one to buy..

    I've heard craze gives insane focus which is what i want, more than a pump.

    But I need something very strong, because I am pretty tolerant to stims/caffeine.


    If neither of the two are good, my third choice is White Flood, I've tried a sample, and it was amazing.

    So if you had to chose, c4/craze/White Flood... What would it be?
    I have used all of these...and Rage and SP and Assault at various times...they all work...and from what you read, they all work a little differently based on the person. I can so without a doubt that Craze worked the best for me...I didn't experience a crash...great focus and energy...and have not built up any tolerance as of yet. I did not have a great experience with C4 and I am guessing based on the other reviews that it was specific to me...WF and Rage also worked very well and would recommend them but for me, Craze simply works the best - and for the longest.
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    Originally Posted by TimMason91 View Post
    I don't think I've heard ONE bad thing about either product (C4/Craze). Which is making it hard for me to choose which one to buy..

    I've heard craze gives insane focus which is what i want, more than a pump.

    But I need something very strong, because I am pretty tolerant to stims/caffeine.


    If neither of the two are good, my third choice is White Flood, I've tried a sample, and it was amazing.

    So if you had to chose, c4/craze/White Flood... What would it be?
    Take C4 unless u want ur balls to fall off while u vomit blood from Craze.........seriously though, C4 has a good clean boost with little or practically no side effects *i have never had any, love the product*....and then their is Craze where its good mental focus, BUT more and more reports of serious side effects such as Anxiety, Depression, etc... have been occuring. I have taken both and Craze has given me some weird feelings, thankfully not the serious side effects, but I stopped taking the product because of some research I've done and ofcourse the arguing with a "SLDGE" a Craze rep (chief formulator, w.e. the fck u wanna call him). All in all I believe Craze is harmful after evaluating the product *everything is harmful these days lol, but this is one i would personally would stay away from*, but not to be biased everyone is effected differently by different things *so feel free to try it*. Safety wise with a great pump I recommend C4, hope this helped.
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    Originally Posted by Buddha_TL View Post
    Go with C4. Really can't go wrong with either WF or C4.
    I'm going with C4, hope your right :P thanks.


    Originally Posted by diguincoutoreis View Post
    Will do it next week, 1 Scoop WF+ 1/2 Friction = Insane energy+crazy pump?
    That's what I'm thinking lol, send me a PM and tell me how it goes :P or just post in here.
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    Originally Posted by AwwwwMuffin View Post
    Take C4 unless u want ur balls to fall off while u vomit blood from Craze.........seriously though, C4 has a good clean boost with little or practically no side effects *i have never had any, love the product*....and then their is Craze where its good mental focus, BUT more and more reports of serious side effects such as Anxiety, Depression, etc... have been occuring. I have taken both and Craze has given me some weird feelings, thankfully not the serious side effects, but I stopped taking the product because of some research I've done and ofcourse the arguing with a "SLDGE" a Craze rep (chief formulator, w.e. the fck u wanna call him). All in all I believe Craze is harmful after evaluating the product *everything is harmful these days lol, but this is one i would personally would stay away from*, but not to be biased everyone is effected differently by different things *so feel free to try it*. Safety wise with a great pump I recommend C4, hope this helped.
    dude that's a ridiculous statement bordering on slander. I've been taking it 3-4x a week for several months now with basically zero issues (other than the occasional dry mouth and def get appetite suppression). It does have a moderate crash once in awhile, but in my personal experience as well as reading hundreds of other reviews of the product, your comments are WAY out of sync with the vast majority of Craze users.
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    1 Scoop of C4 + 1 scoop of Crazee?
    Makes Me Wonderr..

    But all in all i have both;C4 is a good pre-; it gives the pumps,energy,focus etc. but would say Craze is way better in general. You won't regret it if you go with Craze. Don't listen to those who are telling you about side effects; haven't got any of them. It's all safe. Lol
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    Originally Posted by GabrielC11 View Post
    1 Scoop of C4 + 1 scoop of Crazee?
    Makes Me Wonderr..

    But all in all i have both;C4 is a good pre- but would say you should turn your decission around and go with Craze. Won't regret it.
    i liked this combo. obv use at your own discretion re:stims, etc. but it worked great for me. key is 1 scoop craze 30mins pre workout, then 3/4 scoop c4 like 30-45mins into workout
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    Originally Posted by GabrielC11 View Post
    1 Scoop of C4 + 1 scoop of Crazee?
    Makes Me Wonderr..

    But all in all i have both;C4 is a good pre-; it gives the pumps,energy,focus etc. but would say Craze is way better in general. You won't regret it if you go with Craze. Don't listen to those who are telling you about side effects; haven't got any of them. It's all safe. Lol
    yeah, i'm going to order a tub of craze when i'm about half way through C4, and experiment with the two :P
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    Originally Posted by optimus1 View Post
    i liked this combo. obv use at your own discretion re:stims, etc. but it worked great for me. key is 1 scoop craze 30mins pre workout, then 3/4 scoop c4 like 30-45mins into workout
    How was the pump,focus,energy etc.?
    Btw did you mix it both together or did you dose it at seperate times?
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    Originally Posted by TimMason91 View Post
    yeah, i'm going to order a tub of craze when i'm about half way through C4, and experiment with the two :P
    Im almost half way through my C4 as well but have craze sitting in my counter; planning on using it after getting done. But after being skeptical about the two being dosed together; will have to open craze up and try it this week.. ha.
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    Originally Posted by AwwwwMuffin View Post
    Take C4 unless u want ur balls to fall off while u vomit blood from Craze.........seriously though, C4 has a good clean boost with little or practically no side effects *i have never had any, love the product*....and then their is Craze where its good mental focus, BUT more and more reports of serious side effects such as Anxiety, Depression, etc... have been occuring. I have taken both and Craze has given me some weird feelings, thankfully not the serious side effects, but I stopped taking the product because of some research I've done and ofcourse the arguing with a "SLDGE" a Craze rep (chief formulator, w.e. the fck u wanna call him). All in all I believe Craze is harmful after evaluating the product *everything is harmful these days lol, but this is one i would personally would stay away from*, but not to be biased everyone is effected differently by different things *so feel free to try it*. Safety wise with a great pump I recommend C4, hope this helped.
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    Originally Posted by th3futur3 View Post
    Op. Blue raz c4 is heaven. I love that supp.
    This is all I have been hearing, I can't wait to find out for my self. Blue raz just sounds heavenly lol.


    Originally Posted by GabrielC11 View Post
    Im almost half way through my C4 as well but have craze sitting in my counter; planning on using it after getting done. But after being skeptical about the two being dosed together; will have to open craze up and try it this week.. ha.
    haha nice. let me know how it goes :P
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    Originally Posted by GabrielC11 View Post
    How was the pump,focus,energy etc.?
    Btw did you mix it both together or did you dose it at seperate times?
    well, i mentioned the dosing already. For me, craze gets me good and edgy/focused. I haven't heard alot of others state it this way, but it gets me focused in an aggressive way. However I like having an extra jolt of something mid-workout and make 1 bottle of cytomax/bcaas and 1 bottle with a scoop of C4 before i go to the gym. So typically, Craze 40 mins pre, C4 30 minutes in, and the cyto/bcaa nearing end of workout.
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    Originally Posted by optimus1 View Post
    well, i mentioned the dosing already. For me, craze gets me good and edgy/focused. I haven't heard alot of others state it this way, but it gets me focused in an aggressive way. However I like having an extra jolt of something mid-workout and make 1 bottle of cytomax/bcaas and 1 bottle with a scoop of C4 before i go to the gym. So typically, Craze 40 mins pre, C4 30 minutes in, and the cyto/bcaa nearing end of workout.
    jeez, sounds crazy. going to have to try that one day
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    Originally Posted by optimus1 View Post
    dude that's a ridiculous statement bordering on slander. I've been taking it 3-4x a week for several months now with basically zero issues (other than the occasional dry mouth and def get appetite suppression). It does have a moderate crash once in awhile, but in my personal experience as well as reading hundreds of other reviews of the product, your comments are WAY out of sync with the vast majority of Craze users.
    You definitely need to look up the definition of slander, because your are clearly talking out of your ass. I am majoring in Criminal Justice in college, and you are way off base with claiming its even close to slander. Secondly, I am not in any shape or form bashing the product if you read my post correctly, but I AM INFORMING PEOPLE WITH TRUTHFUL INFORMATION THAT A GROWING NUMBER OF PEOPLE ARE EXPERIENCING THE ABOVE STATED SIDE EFFECTS. So take your weak, out of shape, unintelligent ass and do some research before you talk.
    I have not posted for last 2yrs (July 2010-February 2012). I was tired of being like 90% of all the people that post out of opinions rather than facts. Since that time I have increased my knowledge through research,and I corrected my ego. All my responses may not be 100% accurate,but I can promise you that what I say is not bias and is for your well being above anything else. Rep me if my post helps,not for boosted credibility (that half of people on this site do not deserve).
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    God, C4 have got to be one of the most useless pw I've have had ever tried. Don't really understand all the hype regarding C4. I'd take craze over C4 any day of the week.
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    Originally Posted by AwwwwMuffin View Post
    Take C4 unless u want ur balls to fall off while u vomit blood from Craze.........seriously though, C4 has a good clean boost with little or practically no side effects *i have never had any, love the product*....and then their is Craze where its good mental focus, BUT more and more reports of serious side effects such as Anxiety, Depression, etc... have been occuring. I have taken both and Craze has given me some weird feelings, thankfully not the serious side effects, but I stopped taking the product because of some research I've done and ofcourse the arguing with a "SLDGE" a Craze rep (chief formulator, w.e. the fck u wanna call him). All in all I believe Craze is harmful after evaluating the product *everything is harmful these days lol, but this is one i would personally would stay away from*, but not to be biased everyone is effected differently by different things *so feel free to try it*. Safety wise with a great pump I recommend C4, hope this helped.

    Haha. Seriously? Balls fall off?

    Don't listen to this guy. He is an idiot. Craze is awesome. Intense focus and nice smooth energy. I haven't had any sides yet so I would recommend Craze.
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    Originally Posted by Crabb651 View Post
    Haha. Seriously? Balls fall off?

    Don't listen to this guy. He is an idiot. Craze is awesome. Intense focus and nice smooth energy. I haven't had any sides yet so I would recommend Craze.
    Sigh clearly sarcasim does not go far with you, you seriously took that statement as if I was 100% serious that would happen to you.....it was petty humor, then I explained why I suggest C4 over Craze....If you noticed, I didn't say Craze was a bad product, I stated everyone responds differently, but I personally would not recommend the product from experience and from the increasing number of reports of those above stated side effects.
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    I just finished up my two tubs of C4 and recently got a tub of Craze to try. I have only been taking Craze two days so far so I would say go with C4. Good pumps and stim feeling on C4. Totally different on Craze, not sure what to think of it yet, but I dont crash and Craze just feels smoother..
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    Originally Posted by Lubinski View Post
    I just finished up my two tubs of C4 and recently got a tub of Craze to try. I have only been taking Craze two days so far so I would say go with C4. Good pumps and stim feeling on C4. Totally different on Craze, not sure what to think of it yet, but I dont crash and Craze just feels smoother..
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    I have literally tried most al pre workout supps - cant bear to tally up cost, but hands down winner is CRAZE - I love the feeling I get on it - like I can solve all the worlds problems during my 45 minute workout - its CRAZE Y !

    In fact I would love to know what substance in Craze is giving me that good to the last fricken drop feeling - anyone? Is it by chance the Beta Alanine?
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    I'm taking craze right now and it gives me awesome focus.

    Only bad thing is it taste like ****, it makes me shake during my work outs. Has alot of caffeine. Sometimes the carbonation makes me sick on leg days. But I man up and deal with it
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    Originally Posted by scjordan View Post
    I'm taking craze right now and it gives me awesome focus.

    Only bad thing is it taste like ****, it makes me shake during my work outs. Has alot of caffeine. Sometimes the carbonation makes me sick on leg days. But I man up and deal with it
    Like I said, I want focus more than pump. So overall craze has more focus than C4?


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