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    pussy.
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    Originally Posted by Rambo26 View Post
    vegetarian = no problem

    vegan = now that would be more difficult
    I wouldn't go as far as saying no problem. I was vegetarian for 12 years and when I realised I needed to eat right you wouldn't believe how much of a pain in the arse it is to get a decent amount of protein without having gigantic meals or having 20 eggs a day. Since I started eating meat the changes are insane. No need to whinge about it though, if you pick to be vegetarian it's something you've got to deal with.
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    Originally Posted by ssj4JAY91 View Post
    lol, strong ignoring the elephant in the room.
    lol, strong ignoring the topic.
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    He is NOT a vegan. He is a vegetarian who eats lots of dairy products.
    No meat or fish .
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    Originally Posted by the-craig View Post
    I wouldn't go as far as saying no problem. I was vegetarian for 12 years and when I realised I needed to eat right you wouldn't believe how much of a pain in the arse it is to get a decent amount of protein without having gigantic meals or having 20 eggs a day. Since I started eating meat the changes are insane. No need to whinge about it though, if you pick to be vegetarian it's something you've got to deal with.
    so... you've started being vegetarian at the age of 10?
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    Originally Posted by Rambo26 View Post
    vegetarian = no incurable mental problem

    vegan = now that would be braindead diagnosis
    corrected that
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    Sorry to say it but I can't imagine reaching any serious competitive level when you're not eating tons of meat.
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    Originally Posted by Terminator84 View Post
    Sorry to say it but I can't imagine reaching any serious competitive level when you're not eating tons of meat.
    well it's doable actually. just like doing well with only 6 hours of sleep or training with weird equipment. just pointless.
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    Originally Posted by tsiparlanaeht View Post
    Pussy.
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    Don't understand why this is such a big deal if you enjoy the taste of eggs and cottage cheese? Much cheaper than meat too....
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    Originally Posted by DanielEver View Post
    so... you've started being vegetarian at the age of 10?
    About 8, I started eating meat and fish again last June.
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    Originally Posted by Ikatsu View Post
    Don't understand why this is such a big deal if you enjoy the taste of eggs and cottage cheese? Much cheaper than meat too....
    not cheaper if you consider the amount of protein you need to consume.

    btw, i've never met any vegetarian who just didn't eat meat because of the taste preferences, never. it's always some twisted pseudo-philosophy that serves as a background for such kind of behaviour.
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    Originally Posted by the-craig View Post
    About 8, I started eating meat and fish again last June.
    what could make such an impact on you that you haven't reconsider this decision through all the teen age?
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    Originally Posted by DanielEver View Post
    what could make such an impact on you that you haven't reconsider this decision through all the teen age?
    One of my mates said he didn't eat it and told me it was bad so I believed him, I was only 8. I did consider it but couldn't bring myself to do it for a while.
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    Originally Posted by the-craig View Post
    One of my mates said he didn't eat it and told me it was bad so I believed him, I was only 8. I did consider it but couldn't bring myself to do it for a while.
    well... you surely were impressive.
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    Originally Posted by HollywoodJohn View Post
    That applies to everyone really. Get your macros/micros, protein & fat requirements for the day, the rest can be filled with whatever one desires as long as one is aware of his caloric requirements and don't go overboard.
    Yeah, although what food you eat still plays a big role in your energy levels, satiety, mood, and so on.

    The problem I have with a lot of IIFYM guys is that they get short-sighted, and think that eating begins and ends with what they see on the scales.
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    Originally Posted by BartPimpson View Post
    Yeah, although what food you eat still plays a big role in your energy levels, satiety, mood, and so on.

    The problem I have with a lot of IIFYM guys is that they get short-sighted, and think that eating begins and ends with what they see on the scales.
    Yes i agree with both statements. Actually most of the approach to "IIFYM" is ignorant! Most guys just use it as an excuse to indulge in more refined type of food, the so called "dirty food" and ignore the fact that almost your entire bulk of calories should come from more whole natural type of foods that will provide you with your essential macros & micros, protein and fats and some good sources of fiber.
    "IIFYM" is about moderation, most people can't get this concept down...
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    lol, strong ignoring the elephant in the room.
    there was no elephant in the room until he brought it in. 95% of the posters in this section are aware of behind the scenes.
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    Vegetarian/vegan bodybuilding has to be one of the biggest OXYMORONS I have ever encountered.
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    Originally Posted by TTimmerman View Post
    ignorant on so many levels
    i have to agree. without genetics to get big in the first place, all that AAS is not going to do a lick of good. GO out and just run some test, for 3-4 months, maybe b/c for a year and you will see. Not everyone to takes AAS will ever get half that big. AAS does crap w/o the genetics to support them.
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    Originally Posted by andymuscle88 View Post
    Vegetarian/vegan bodybuilding has to be one of the biggest OXYMORONS I have ever encountered.
    bodybuilding is about building the body, what you use to build it is your own business, so it really isn't an oxymoron at all.
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    1. You have no idea what this dude takes 2. Take the same amount of stuff u will look like **** 3. Anyone with half a brain cell knows it's not necessary to bring it up since they all use drugs 4 your a *******
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    umm n0 he W0N'T L00K LIKE ****. 0nly ab0ut .0001 percent 0f the p0pulati0n has access and takes the am0unt 0f drugs 0n a c0nsistent basis and the with the massive d0sages that pr0s take. Y0u're a ****ing retard.
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    Originally Posted by valiantmiller16 View Post
    1. you have no idea what this dude takes 2. take the same amount of stuff u will look like **** 3. anyone with half a brain cell knows it's not necessary to bring it up since they all use drugs 4 your a *******
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    Originally Posted by Terminator84 View Post
    Sorry to say it but I can't imagine reaching any serious competitive level when you're not eating tons of meat.
    Ditto that. Pro's gotta earn extra gear money somehow......
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    Originally Posted by Diablomeister View Post
    bodybuilding is about building the body, what you use to build it is your own business, so it really isn't an oxymoron at all.
    Disagree, veganism/vegetarianism in my opinion is the antithesis of the machismo culture and extreme nature of pro bodybuilding. I can't imagine someone at the professional level in this sport intentionally putting themselves at a disadvantage if they want to be at all successful. I don't think it's a coincidence that the top finishers at the Olympia each year are stuffing their faces with fish, chicken, turkey, lean beef, etc. year round.

    Same thing with being a lineman in college or pro football. Wow how cute, you made have made it to the big stage eating kale chips and almond milk, but now that you're here prepare to get OWNED.
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    im suprised at the amount of people saying that it wouldnt b that hard to gain that size with eggs/protein powder and protein rich lentils etc combined with cell tech....
    dont forget the fact that hes 6'3 .....*most* taller body builders arent able to build this type of physique with access to whtever foods they want

    what you are basically saying is, its not that amazing cos...Vegetables,protein supps, eggs, lentils, cell tech = vegetables, protein supps, eggs, lentils, multiple meat sources, cell tech
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    Originally Posted by Ovillaz View Post
    im suprised at the amount of people saying that it wouldnt b that hard to gain that size with eggs/protein powder and protein rich lentils etc combined with cell tech....
    dont forget the fact that hes 6'3 .....*most* taller body builders arent able to build this type of physique with access to whtever foods they want

    what you are basically saying is, its not that amazing cos...Vegetables,protein supps, eggs, lentils, cell tech = vegetables, protein supps, eggs, lentils, multiple meat sources, cell tech
    The only advantage in getting different types of meat it's only their different aminoacids profiles, really.

    He's actually better off with egg whites & whey because they are the 2 protein sources with the best bioavailability, plus they digest better than the meats, as for the other aminoacids that he wouldn't get, BCAAs supplementation despite useless for people who consume alot of protein daily, would come in handy in this case & off course the creatine from the beef can be get by taking mono which most guys supplement with anyway.

    There's really no disavantages, off course it would be utterly boring to get your protein from those sources alone.
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    quite impressive, i do not envy a man who cannot eat meat though, no matter how solid his physique may be I abide by steak>all
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