hey guys, i was asking myself how much should i take of BCAA per day?
Iam already taking 2 scoop of ON whey per day + 1 scoop of ON casein per day, which i guess already has BCAA, but i wonder, should and i could take more of it in pills with no problem to my health?
could someone link me for the kick @SS BCAA on bb store?
iam 1.74m and 71kilos 5 or 6% bf
Thanks guys
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Thread: How Much BCAA per day?
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01-14-2012, 07:25 AM #1
How Much BCAA per day?
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01-14-2012, 07:29 AM #2
you can take addtl BCAA if desired, no worry to your health whatsoever.
the worry would be to your pocketbook..
if you are getting your protein in, chances are you will notice nothing special by adding addtl BCAA.
now, if you were cutting and reducing food intake and wanted to take BCAA to help maintain muscle tissue, then i might make a different recommendation.
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01-14-2012, 07:36 AM #3
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01-14-2012, 07:38 AM #4
Depends on what you are looking for.
Bulk ON BCAAs are good if you want to add them to protein or other things.
Intraworkouts: Purple Wraath, Xtend, Intrabolic, Strive, Core ABC are all good.
You can grab a free sample of Purple Wraath from my sig and try it for yourself.
As was said, you are going to get the best results when training fasted or on a caloric deficit.Controlled Labs Warder
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I'm pretty sure your wrong, but care to elaborate...
Disclaimer: The above post is my personal opinion and does not represent the official position of any company or entity. It does not constitute medical advice.
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01-14-2012, 07:43 AM #5
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01-14-2012, 07:45 AM #6
Read this first: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=121703981
Controlled Labs Warder
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Free Controlled Labs supps for your CL labels: goo.gl/kylDte
I'm pretty sure your wrong, but care to elaborate...
Disclaimer: The above post is my personal opinion and does not represent the official position of any company or entity. It does not constitute medical advice.
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01-14-2012, 09:20 AM #7
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01-14-2012, 10:21 AM #8
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It seems from your posts you are a little new to this. Be sure to do some research on training/dieting to make sure those are covered. Without that down no supplements will deliver the results you are looking for.
As for BCAAs, there is no true limit but on any given day Id recommend 10-20g daily, preferably during training. Extra BCAAs will be of no harm at all to your health. If you can, opt for a BCAA in powder form over pill.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/sv/xtend.html
This is a top seller, recovery product of the year for 6 years in a row and a preferred by BCAA supp by countless people.
It is best used DURING your workout. The free form aminos will be able to bypass the digestive process and be expelled instantly into the bloodstream to be delivered to where they are needed (muscles being trained as they will lose aminos).
On top of that Xtend offers
-bonded citrulline
-b6
-glutamine
-electrolytes
The options mentioned are all great choices.
If bulking you can also dose something like Xtend between meals for the leucine content to keep protein synthesis levels elevated. People have been reporting great gains with this.
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01-14-2012, 11:41 AM #9
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01-14-2012, 11:50 AM #10Controlled Labs Warder
Email: Powercage [at] ControlledLabs.com
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I'm pretty sure your wrong, but care to elaborate...
Disclaimer: The above post is my personal opinion and does not represent the official position of any company or entity. It does not constitute medical advice.
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01-14-2012, 11:55 AM #11
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01-14-2012, 11:58 AM #12
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01-14-2012, 12:37 PM #13
You might want to add up how much protein you eat per day and run the math. Since 20% of most quality protein sources is BCAA, most people are already getting between 40-60 grams per day. Not so sure what people think an addition 5-10 gr is going to do.
I think BCAA is good if your following a Vegan diet or something like that.
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01-15-2012, 05:01 PM #14
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BCAAs are great on top of a high protein diet. At Scivation our dieting principles focus around high protein yet still supplementing with BCAAs Intra.
There is a difference between free form aminos in Xtend and peptide bonded in foods. The BCAAs in Xtend bypass the digestive tract and are released into the bloodstream almost immediately. That is why its similar to continuously feeding your muscles during training, hence the increased recovery.
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01-15-2012, 05:40 PM #15KOSOVO IS SERBIA
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01-15-2012, 05:49 PM #16
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01-15-2012, 06:07 PM #17
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01-15-2012, 06:17 PM #18
A fact (derived from the Latin Factum) is something that has really occurred or is actually the case.
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01-15-2012, 06:28 PM #19
I know. The human body has evolved so inefficiently that regular food simply isn't enough? If you don't ingest free form BCAA's between every meal your muscle mass will just dissolve into sh*t. I'm considering going on an amino acid IV drip to continuously feed my muscles between sets so I can recover
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01-15-2012, 06:32 PM #20
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The fact that there is a different reaction when ingesting free form aminos such as those in Xtend compared to peptide bonded aminos from food.
As I just mentioned prior "There is a difference between free form aminos in Xtend and peptide bonded in foods. The BCAAs in Xtend bypass the digestive tract and are released into the bloodstream almost immediately. That is why its similar to continuously feeding your muscles during training, hence the increased recovery.
Which is what I was referencing by saying they have their place alongside a diet/training program.
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01-15-2012, 06:40 PM #21
The fact is that if you're eating a high protein diet there is no need for free form bcaa's. It's well known that unless someone is completely fasted, they still have a steady stream of amino acids going into the bloodstream. I think that's what he has a problem with, if you can get Mr. Norton in here to say otherwise Ill step aside.
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01-15-2012, 07:14 PM #22
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11-19-2013, 11:16 AM #23
for muscle soreness?
Hey so i'm a chick and wondered if BCAA would help decrease muscle soreness. If so i got a 2:1:1 product (GNC product just to try it out) and its 30g a serving so i take 1/2 before my workout and 1/2 after; however, i am currently taking a protein supplement (promasil 20g per serving, typically one serving a day) but this is just to get my protein intake over 100 g a day, i also take a multivitamin and 2 grams of fish oil a day. Should i consider taking another supplement for DOMS? and if i consume around 15-20 grams of protein after every workout is it necessary for me to even consider BCAA's or should i consume that beforehand? i also workout twice a day sometimes so should i spread that 30g serving over 2 workouts or take 2 servings a day?
Thanks for any input
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11-24-2013, 03:22 AM #24
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Whey isolate preworkout... bcaa powder & water during... whey isolate & milk after
Hi, I know I'm new, but after being overweight for too long... I spent the last 2 years sifting through all the broscience posts in these forums, reading scientific studies, and speaking to and listening to doctors regarding this question and it all depends on your workout regiment. If you workout for more than an hour and especially if you lift and then do cardio... Bcaa powder is a must if you want to avoid the DOMS. The 2:1:1 stuff you have is good, but a straight bcaa powder during your workout, about 30 mins to an hour after a preworkout whey isolate shake is much better and will provide you with a steadier flow of amino acids to feed your muscles. When I don't use bcaa powder during a workout, I am sore for days.
Here's what I do to avoid the DOMS (it goes a lil off topic and is über long, but bare with me):
I wake up and immediately consume a thermogenic (cellucor hd), 30 mins later I consume no more than one scoop of whey isolate (24g) with just water (no milk, milk = longer absortion time) and I consume 2000mg of fish oil for the anti-inflammatory effect. 30 mins later I do a 45 min circuit training routine (gsp rushfit). Immediately after my workout I eat oatmeal and another scoop of whey isolate with whole milk. The oats prolong the thermogenic effect because the body has to work harder to digest whole food compared to liquids and the whole milk prolongs digestion due to the milk's casein and fat, which also provides energy and keeps me satiated. Then, I finish off with either a cup of blueberries or pomegranate to help with the glycogen loss (the carbs in the oatmeal and milk help as well). I then do my best to eat every 3 hours and make sure I'm consuming 20-30 grams of lean protein per meal or snack until my next workout, which is weights in the evening with an hour of cardio immediately afterward.
I do the same thing prior to my evening workout, thermogenic, but add a nitric oxide supp for a better "pump" and then a scoop of whey isolate with water and another 2000mg of fish oil 30 minutes later. Right before I start lifting I mix 2 scoops of cellucor bcaa (any flavor... they all taste like gatorade) with a liter of water and I sip it in between sets. I lift for over an hour... sometimes 2. Some people think this is overkill, but I like to do as many sets as I can and because of the bcaas I NEVER get too sore because I have a steady stream of amino acids feeding my muscles. If I only lifted for 30 mins I wouldn't need the bcaa powder because the whey and its bcaa blend would be enough to feed my muscles. And when I'm done lifting, I mix 1 scoop of cellucor bcaa with another liter of water, jump on a stationary bike and sip it while riding for 15 miles. I do this to burn belly fat and if I didn't consume those 3 scoops of bcaa powder, all that cardio would literally break down my muscles basically making that 2 hour lifting session pointless. After the cardio sesh, I consume 1 more scoop of whey isolate with a cup to 2 cups of chocolate milk, which helps replenish my glycogen levels. I then go home and eat salmon for the anti-inflammatory effect with a bunch of high fiber veggies and a lil brown rice. And right before bed, I consume a scoop of casein powder and 1 cup of whole milk with 2 scoops of fiber powder and some water to aid in digestion... casein powder constipates me without the fiber. I go to bed and wake up feeling good.
So yeah, it all depends on your workout regiment and how long and hard you work. People who say whey or casein powder is enough are wrong and probably don't workout as long as I do and I guarantee have some nasty indigestion while working out because they consume too much whey or casein beforehand for that steady flow of amino acids. Idk about you, but I don't like to throw up while working out. You can't sip a whey shake while working... well, you can... if you don't mind the indigestion. For me, the bcaas are a must. You're going to drink water anyway while working out. Why not add a lil bcaa powder?
Oh, and don't forget to stretch AFTER working out. I have friends who stretch beforehand, instead of doing a proper warmup, and they are sore all the time. Stretch right after your sets to help avoid the DOMS.
Hope this helps ;-)Last edited by Girdeux; 11-24-2013 at 04:05 AM.
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