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    Nagy just said in an interview that he's not opposed to giving up playcalling but he doesn't think that's where the problem is at. Smh this dudes ego won't let it go
    He's never going to. He won't ever see himself as any part of the problem. He's not the entire problem, but he's a large part of it and we are stuck with it until Pace wises up and forces him to do something different or gets rid of him. As a HC I want him to stay. He's good at the locker room stuff and the rah rah get your team fired up stuff, but he needs to give up the offense right now.
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    Originally Posted by M0nkeyPrick View Post
    Nagy just said in an interview that he's not opposed to giving up playcalling but he doesn't think that's where the problem is at. Smh this dudes ego won't let it go
    Of course he isn't going to blame himself. He'll do what he did last year and fire the OC and OL coach hoping to buy himself another year. I'm sure that's where he's pointing the fingers at when the world knows Nagy is the problem.
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    Originally Posted by taydbear7 View Post
    Of course he isn't going to blame himself. He'll do what he did last year and fire the OC and OL coach hoping to buy himself another year. I'm sure that's where he's pointing the fingers at when the world knows Nagy is the problem.
    Exactly. Firing your offensive coordinator when you're the one calling plays anyway. Idk why Lazor is even there.
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    If you guys don't get rid of Nagy and Pace after this year I'm going to maybe actually feel sorry for you.
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    Originally Posted by bullybreed View Post
    I just don't know how Nagy and/or any coach on that team can watch what is going on offensively and just continue to come out and do the same fuking thing the very next week? It's beyond me the stupidity of this coaching staff and Ryan Pace as well to just continue to let it go on. They are doing nothing to correct any of these problems. The ONLY thing they did was bench Mitch. Mitch or Foles aren't the answer at QB, but at this point Foles isn't playing any better than Mitch was, and Foles can't run away from pressure which is seemingly vital right now to keep plays alive with this horrid offensive line.
    Jibberish as usual.

    Good job saying benching Mitch was the right answer (Foles has been worse).

    Then saying Mitch isn't the answer but alluding to him being a better answer than Foles.

    The Foles experiment is crashing and burning before your eyes Timmy.

    You were wrong again and reality is kicking in.

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    Originally Posted by MBisonSon View Post
    Jibberish as usual.

    Good job saying benching Mitch was the right answer (Foles has been worse).

    Then saying Mitch isn't the answer but alluding to him being a better answer than Foles.

    The Foles experiment is crashing and burning before your eyes Timmy.

    You were wrong again and reality is kicking in.

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    Are you ****ing retarded? The Mitch experiment crashed and burned a long time ago. With Mitch, you're maybe 4-3 at best right now.
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    Remember I was saying statue QB behind Bears OL would end badly?

    Reality is a bitch, that's what you're witnessing.

    Foles was supposed to be the answer and look how that ship is sinking.

    Trubisky 3-0

    Foles 2-2

    And in every Foles loss his lack of mobility is a key issue.

    It's almost like Trubisky is the best shot at winning (another thing I've been saying).

    Butt hurt I'm an inbred Timmy duurrr screeeech

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    Plenty of people calling for Foles' head now.

    You won't see that here because perfect storm of insecure Timmys and people putting their foots in their mouths.

    Trubisky gives them the best chance to win.

    The reality of Foles behind Bears OL is setting in.

    People were deluding themselves into thinking putting Foles in was gonna magically cure the problems on offense.

    Foles has thrown on level similar to Trubisky if not worse, without benefit of running the ball.

    He was a sitting duck all night.

    They wood have had just as good if not better chance with Trubisky in there last night Timmy.
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    Originally Posted by bullybreed View Post
    He's never going to. He won't ever see himself as any part of the problem. He's not the entire problem, but he's a large part of it and we are stuck with it until Pace wises up and forces him to do something different or gets rid of him. As a HC I want him to stay. He's good at the locker room stuff and the rah rah get your team fired up stuff, but he needs to give up the offense right now.
    I’d rather get rid of Pace than Nagy. His abysmal draft management (who needs draft picks when you can trade up for a bust at QB) is a major reason the Bears offense is where it is. A garbage offensive line with no depth. He also hired both John Fox and Nagy, so why give him a 3rd coach?

    I don’t even know what they could do from a play calling perspective when the offensive line is getting dominated so badly. On a third down completion to Mooney that was short 3 guys were coming at him. Even if you chip with the RB or TE he’d still have been screwed.

    As far as the Trubisky stuff goes, if you could put Foles’ brain in Trubisky’s body that would be ideal. However, Foles releases something like 65% of his passes in 2.5 seconds or less while Trubisky was like 30%, so his mobility wouldn’t be as helpful as you might think because of how slowly he processes information. Trubisky either decides where he’s throwing before the snap or is confused and makes a terrible throw like the interception that got him benched.

    Also, his footwork is so erratic that even if he was able to buy time he’d miss most of his throws downfield like he’s done his whole career and everyone would be frustrated and disappointed again.

    Edit: The Bears have signed WR/punt returner Dwayne Harris to the practice squad: https://www.windycitygridiron.com/20...-terry-beckner

    Potential Ted Ginn replacement.
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    Originally Posted by cheerupemokid View Post
    Trubisky either decides where he’s throwing before the snap or is confused and makes a terrible throw like the interception that got him benched.
    LMFAO yeah nothing like Foles throwing interceptions to Jalen Ramsey in triple coverage.
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    Originally Posted by cheerupemokid View Post
    I’d rather get rid of Pace than Nagy. His abysmal draft management (who needs draft picks when you can trade up for a bust at QB) is a major reason the Bears offense is where it is. A garbage offensive line with no depth. He also hired both John Fox and Nagy, so why give him a 3rd coach?

    I don’t even know what they could do from a play calling perspective when the offensive line is getting dominated so badly. On a third down completion to Mooney that was short 3 guys were coming at him. Even if you chip with the RB or TE he’d still have been screwed.

    As far as the Trubisky stuff goes, if you could put Foles’ brain in Trubisky’s body that would be ideal. However, Foles releases something like 65% of his passes in 2.5 seconds or less while Trubisky was like 30%, so his mobility wouldn’t be as helpful as you might think because of how slowly he processes information. Trubisky either decides where he’s throwing before the snap or is confused and makes a terrible throw like the interception that got him benched.

    Also, his footwork is so erratic that even if he was able to buy time he’d miss most of his throws downfield like he’s done his whole career and everyone would be frustrated and disappointed again.

    Edit: The Bears have signed WR/punt returner Dwayne Harris to the practice squad: https://www.windycitygridiron.com/20...-terry-beckner

    Potential Ted Ginn replacement.
    Honestly thinking about it I really wouldn't want to keep either but I really wouldn't want to keep Nagy. He can think Fangio for all the sacks and takeaways that led to short fields or even scores and Mitchs legs for the only decent year he did have on offense. The sole reason we got him is to improve the offense and you can talk about talent but I think Mooney Kmet and Jaylon were actually solid picks.


    You can blame the offensive line which is a good point but this offense isn't just kind of bad it's historically bad. I would not be surprised forget a head coaching job if Nagy doesn't find a job as an OC after he's gone from the bears. If your job is to improve the offense and they suck what's the point of keeping you?


    You can thank Pagano VIC and the defenses for your winning percentage because they won in spite of you. Your clock management is horrible when the offense is actuallly moving down the field you slow it down and call a timeout. Adam gases has had offenses that were much better then Nagys and look where he is now..


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    He's a retard, don't waste your time.

    Keep in mind Bears landing Jay Cutler made him burst into tears of joy.
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    He's a retard, don't waste your time.

    Keep in mind Bears landing Jay Cutler made him burst into tears of joy.
    Meanwhile you made yourself look like an even bigger assclown touting Trubisky all offseason. If only you could see the irony in your moronic comments.
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    Honestly thinking about it I really wouldn't want to keep either but I really wouldn't want to keep Nagy. He can think Fangio for all the sacks and takeaways that led to short fields or even scores and Mitchs legs for the only decent year he did have on offense. The sole reason we got him is to improve the offense and you can talk about talent but I think Mooney Kmet and Jaylon were actually solid picks.


    You can blame the offensive line which is a good point but this offense isn't just kind of bad it's historically bad. I would not be surprised forget a head coaching job if Nagy doesn't find a job as an OC after he's gone from the bears. If your job is to improve the offense and they suck what's the point of keeping you?


    You can thank Pagano VIC and the defenses for your winning percentage because they won in spite of you. Your clock management is horrible when the offense is actuallly moving down the field you slow it down and call a timeout. Adam gases has had offenses that were much better then Nagys and look where he is now..


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    Pace’s first round picks are Kevin White, Leonard Floyd, and Mitch Trubisky. And he ignored his coaches opinion on the QB before drafting him. He’s found some good players in the mid round but none of his first round picks have panned out.

    Eddie Goldman is the only player from the 2015 draft still on the roster. Because he let Kwiatkoski walk in favor of Trevathan which appears to have been a mistake as Trevathan looks like he’s lost a step.

    The defense has carried them but I don’t think you can fire a coach because the defense is good and his defensive coordinators have done a good job, especially since this isn’t a Marc Trestman situation where he’s lost the defense. Remember when Lance Briggs blew off practice to attend a restaurant opening or whatever. At least we’re not there.

    Ultimately, I think they’ll win too many games to be fired but I think if the team completely falls off a cliff they’ll both be gone.

    I just hope the line becomes a priority. The backup guards are a converted DT and an undrafted guy. That’s not good depth. I’m kind of dumbfounded that they haven’t signed a free agent or poached another team’s practice squad.
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    Pace’s first round picks are Kevin White, Leonard Floyd, and Mitch Trubisky. And he ignored his coaches opinion on the QB before drafting him. He’s found some good players in the mid round but none of his first round picks have panned out.

    Eddie Goldman is the only player from the 2015 draft still on the roster. Because he let Kwiatkoski walk in favor of Trevathan which appears to have been a mistake as Trevathan looks like he’s lost a step.

    The defense has carried them but I don’t think you can fire a coach because the defense is good and his defensive coordinators have done a good job, especially since this isn’t a Marc Trestman situation where he’s lost the defense. Remember when Lance Briggs blew off practice to attend a restaurant opening or whatever. At least we’re not there.

    Ultimately, I think they’ll win too many games to be fired but I think if the team completely falls off a cliff they’ll both be gone.

    I just hope the line becomes a priority. The backup guards are a converted DT and an undrafted guy. That’s not good depth. I’m kind of dumbfounded that they haven’t signed a free agent or poached another team’s practice squad.
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    Watching these other teams play and their offensive lines block bears might or do have the worst offensive line in the NFL.
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    Montgomery just broke three tackles on a five yard run.

    They need to get the guy a proper OL maybe even consider putting Kmet at FB 🐻⬇️
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    O-line transformed when Massie got injured.

    And play calling has not been as repugnant as usual, outside of that Patterson 0% success rate WR screen call that killed the drive.
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    Everyone was hating on Trevathan earlier in the season but he's been making some crucial plays the past few weeks.

    Must be getting healthy.

    Look at Saints down field blocking, that's how a real team without garbage ass primadonnas at WR does it.
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    Another sweet interception by Big Dick Nick.

    Those interceptions he throws are very different from the ones Trubisky threw.

    When Foles throws an interception you can see the confidence he did it with

    The Foles era is underway baby, will he get over .500???
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    Well, it’s official: we now have zero quarterbacks.

    And zero offense.

    Foles throws a 50 yard reception then a bad INT.

    Mitch won’t do any better, just give the third QB the starting job at this point.

    The defense can only do so much. But it has also taken a few steps back too. The secondary is not reliable at all.

    Get rid of the coach and GM as well. They have proven that they aren’t elite.

    Don’t understand why Kmet doesn’t get more snaps either.
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    They should fire Nagy after this game, even if they manage to win this somehow.
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    3-0 starting vs. 2-3 good job guys, your whining is paying dividends

    Let's see what Humpty Dumpty has to say?

    Come on bullybreed give us some of your expert analysis you fat moron.

    Maybe you guys can cry hard enough to get Jay Cutler to come out of retirement and hold the team hostage for another five years?
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    Now watch how if bullybreed even has enough balls to show face he ignores my posts.

    He'll claim it's because I talk too mean to him.

    The real reason though is because I don't let him off the hook for his idiotic takes ���������������� �

    Right fat boy?

    Come defend Foles losing record and TD/INT since you wanted him in so badly.
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    Man Foles is a pick machine I think the bears backuo o lineman proves the starters are overpriced bums. Pagano and his stupid vaunted prevent defense before the half and Nagy with the genius timeout and they ended up scoring with 3 seconds left in the half.
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    Originally Posted by AlexNYC7 View Post
    Well, it’s official: we now have zero quarterbacks.

    And zero offense.

    Foles throws a 50 yard reception then a bad INT.

    Mitch won’t do any better, just give the third QB the starting job at this point.

    The defense can only do so much. But it has also taken a few steps back too. The secondary is not reliable at all.

    Get rid of the coach and GM as well. They have proven that they aren’t elite.

    Don’t understand why Kmet doesn’t get more snaps either.
    Kmet gets plenty of snaps he just doesn’t get targeted in the passing game when that’s the strength of his game. The almost fumble might have made them gun shy late but I would have liked to see him get one of those attempts over the middle that Graham dropped.

    I don’t think it’s all bad though. They started out well and they had their longest completion and longest run of the season. Montgomery had 85 yards against a good run defense despite this garbage offensive line. So there were some bright spots.

    Hopefully, it’s a step in the right direction and they can continue to improve offensively next week.

    It didn’t seem like the line suffered when Spriggs came in which is encouraging. I continue to be dumbfounded that the Bears think Coward is the best option at LG. I wish I knew what they saw that everyone else is missing.

    And Tyler Bray is the 3rd string QB, dude (He hasn’t even looked good against preseason defenses). Because the GM that said he wanted to draft a QB every year hasn’t drafted one since he needlessly wasted draft picks trading up for Trubisky who will almost certainly be a backup somewhere else next year.
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    I know Nagy is defitnely worse but Pagano gets to much of a pass VIC with this defense was 1st in the league against the run now they're in the middle of thr pack on run D. Also way better at situational defense had way more sacks takeaways. It's not just about statically but the amount of talent he has to work with. He also has Quinn now who's a better pass rusher then Floyd.

    Why are you putting Mack in coverage out there? If the bears still had VIC they would have won the game even with the way the offense played.


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    I know Nagy is defitnely worse but Pagano gets to much of a pass VIC with this defense was 1st in the league against the run now they're in the middle of thr pack on run D. Also way better at situational defense had way more sacks takeaways. It's not just about statically but the amount of talent he has to work with. He also has Quinn now who's a better pass rusher then Floyd.

    Why are you putting Mack in coverage out there? If the bears still had VIC they would have won the game even with the way the offense played.


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    Yeah, Fangio is definitely a better coach than Pagano and his game plans and schemes were much better. I was thinking about he took Sean McVay’s lunch in LA a couple of years ago while the Rams were gashing the Bears D.
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