**Official Chicago Bears Thread part II**

[MBisonSon]

Yeah except NONE of that is true you pleb. His entire line is rated right in the middle of the NFL in terms of pass block win rate. He has time to throw. He gives the illusion that he doesn't because he constantly runs out of a clean pocket.

He also doesn't always make great decisions when he has tons of time to throw, nor does he make good throws.

Stop being lazy and relying on stupid PFF stats, go watch the tape yourself.

How many times does he have even just ADEQUATE time to throw.

Stupid ****ing win rate nonsense when you're literally watching his line get whopped on every play.

And then when they don't it gets called back on penalties.

Or my bad he gets time to throw on **** down and distance.

Like I said go watch the tape AGAIN, and bin your stupid PFF stats.

I refuse to believe his line is magically good in pass protection yet Montgomery has to pull a rabbit out a hat just to get 3-4 yards almost every run.

Sorry, it just doesn't gel with this thing called logic Timmy.

[MBisonSon]

****ing quotes win rate meanwhile Charles Leno is the most penalized OL in the NFL

They didn't take that into account did they?

[bullybreed]

****ing quotes win rate meanwhile Charles Leno is the most penalized OL in the NFL

They didn't take that into account did they?

It wasn't PFF.

Also, Charles Leno is the 5th highest rated tackle in this category. His penalties of false starts and hands to the face don't determine a single thing about how long Mitch has in the pocket, nor the decisions he makes after he snaps the ball. But you are too stupid to understand that. I watch every single game. I also watch tape that is released afterwards of all the STUPID things Mitch does or doesn't do.

[AMeyer9]

Welp, there was a useful discussion. That goes out the window pretty quick when delusional Timmy shows up.

Mitch Trubisky has the lowest Y/C in nfl history. Please explain this.

[MBisonSon]

It wasn't PFF.

Also, Charles Leno is the 5th highest rated tackle in this category. His penalties of false starts and hands to the face don't determine a single thing about how long Mitch has in the pocket, nor the decisions he makes after he snaps the ball. But you are too stupid to understand that. I watch every single game. I also watch tape that is released afterwards of all the STUPID things Mitch does or doesn't do.

No but it does determine down and distance and negate successful plays dumb ****.

[MBisonSon]

I'm gonna take the guys opinion that's been unbiased for YEARS on Bears over the bloodthirsty media who've been hating on Trubisky since he was drafted.

Take your PFF and shove it up your ASS.

[Lunatic]

Yes he consistently makes bad decisions when he gets 2 seconds or less to throw, and makes good decisions when he gets more than 2 seconds

It's called being a QB in the NFL.

It's unbelievably that you're STILL making excuses for Trushitsky. There are other QBs that have been sacked more than him, and they've been sacked more than him had he played the last few games, too.

You sometimes have to deal with terrible OLs and have to adapt. Examples of players doing that well are Mahomes, Watson and Murray, not Trushitsky.

It'S cAlLeD bEiNg A qB iN tHe NfL.

Yeah except NONE of that is true you pleb. His entire line is rated right in the middle of the NFL in terms of pass block win rate. He has time to throw. He gives the illusion that he doesn't because he constantly runs out of a clean pocket.

He also doesn't always make great decisions when he has tons of time to throw, nor does he make good throws.

Lmfao checkmate

Exactly. His decision making is rookie level stuff. He doesn't step up in the pocket, he doesn't scan the field, he doesn't check down. All these are things he should be doing by now.

Yeah, he is NOT a good QB.

Stop being lazy and relying on stupid PFF stats, go watch the tape yourself.

How many times does he have even just ADEQUATE time to throw.

Stupid ****ing win rate nonsense when you're literally watching his line get whopped on every play.

And then when they don't it gets called back on penalties.

Or my bad he gets time to throw on **** down and distance.

Like I said go watch the tape AGAIN, and bin your stupid PFF stats.

I refuse to believe his line is magically good in pass protection yet Montgomery has to pull a rabbit out a hat just to get 3-4 yards almost every run.

Sorry, it just doesn't gel with this thing called logic Timmy.

A good QB would be able to adapt to that, and a good coach would take advantage of that with his play calling. All you're doing is making excuses for a really bad QB that can't do anything against a good defense.

It wasn't PFF.

Also, Charles Leno is the 5th highest rated tackle in this category. His penalties of false starts and hands to the face don't determine a single thing about how long Mitch has in the pocket, nor the decisions he makes after he snaps the ball. But you are too stupid to understand that. I watch every single game. I also watch tape that is released afterwards of all the STUPID things Mitch does or doesn't do.

Lmfao double checkmate. More proof that he doesn't watch the games.

Welp, there was a useful discussion. That goes out the window pretty quick when delusional Timmy shows up.

Mitch Trubisky has the lowest Y/C in nfl history. Please explain this.

Is this accurate?

No but it does determine down and distance and negate successful plays dumb ****.

I've never seen someone make so many excuses for something, especially his own team and QB playing poorly. Hell, even the fans were booing Trushitsky, but you somehow still think he's a better QB than Mahomes and Watson. Truly astounding.

[AMeyer9]

Posts a Bears fans podcast for "unbiased" LMFAO

[bullybreed]

I'm gonna take the guys opinion that's been unbiased for YEARS on Bears over the bloodthirsty media who've been hating on Trubisky since he was drafted.

Take your PFF and shove it up your ASS.

There are definitely problems outside of Mitch and outside of his control. However, you constantly defending him like he can do no wrong is just plain pathetic. Also, a lot of this particular video hates on Mitch. Footwork, not going through progressions, rushing throws, keying in on one player etc. etc. etc. The same things that any normal fan can see during the games.

Quote directly from this video "Mitch not throwing the ball with proper technique. It's almost like he's stepping way off to his left like we've talked about many of times on Tape Never Lies, and the ball carries.".

Another quote - "I don't even know what this is. What are you throwing? A javelin...A shot put? Again, look at this footwork. He's throwing perpendicular. One of the worst throws I've ever seen. I don't even know? Is that a knuckle ball? And the decision is horrific on top."

The majority of this video is ragging on Nagy's play calling and Mitch's trash footwork.

[bullybreed]

Posts a Bears fans podcast for "unbiased" LMFAO

Also this lol

[AMeyer9]

MB is like the 60+ year old fans. They watch football on Sundays. They watch where the ball is at all times and nothing else. They know absolutely nothing and cannot get past their own bias.


You legit have to be retarded, even if you're a Bears fan, to think Mitch isn't the center of all of these problems.

[AMeyer9]

No way dumb dumb even watched that video.

Cliffs: run blocking is a nightmare and no one knows assignments. and mitch trubisky has terrible form and decision making.


Solid video to add to your argument dumb dumb.

[Lunatic]

Also this lol

I'm sorry that you guys have the dumbest poster in this section as a fellow Bears fan.

[MBisonSon]

LMFAO look how many of Timmy Crew are in here like their teams don't have a thread for them to post in.

Also LMAO how desperate Lunatic is for my attention.

[MBisonSon]

There are definitely problems outside of Mitch and outside of his control. However, you constantly defending him like he can do no wrong is just plain pathetic. Also, a lot of this particular video hates on Mitch. Footwork, not going through progressions, rushing throws, keying in on one player etc. etc. etc. The same things that any normal fan can see during the games.

Quote directly from this video "Mitch not throwing the ball with proper technique. It's almost like he's stepping way off to his left like we've talked about many of times on Tape Never Lies, and the ball carries.".

Another quote - "I don't even know what this is. What are you throwing? A javelin...A shot put? Again, look at this footwork. He's throwing perpendicular. One of the worst throws I've ever seen. I don't even know? Is that a knuckle ball? And the decision is horrific on top."

The majority of this video is ragging on Nagy's play calling and Mitch's trash footwork.

Yes imagine the nerve of defending a guy over inaccurate throws when half the time he gets two seconds or less to throw.

And when he gets more than two seconds about half those times his pocket is pushed back a yard and he can't step into throws.

And with those factors taken into consideration in last two full games the guy has? Oh yeah, five TD's versus one interception.

Why would anyone defend that?

The nerve.

Retard.

(Let's not even get into the drops, or the lack of a running game, dumb fuk)

[AK5426]

Yes imagine the nerve of defending a guy over inaccurate throws when half the time he gets two seconds or less to throw.

And when he gets more than two seconds about half those times his pocket is pushed back a yard and he can't step into throws.

And with those factors taken into consideration in last two full games the guy has? Oh yeah, five TD's versus one interception.

Why would anyone defend that?

The nerve.

Retard.

(Let's not even get into the drops, or the lack of a running game, dumb fuk)

Chase Daniels and Trubisky had extremely similar stats before the saints game

[MBisonSon]

Hmmm, but if we wanna go even further game before that was again, where Trubisky led the team on what was it?

Like a 50 yard drive in 30 seconds, with an offensive penalty and a drop by Cohen, mind you...

Into FG position to win the game.

I should really hope this is all hammering home how much of an idiot you're looking like.

See the bottom line is you can make a VERY compelling case FOR Trubisky when you look at the total situation OBJECTIVELY.

But the case AGAINST Trubisky is basically: "hUrR DuRr LoOk WhO aGrEeS wItH mE".

Good day sir

[BigDeeps01]

Congrats guys on your #29 spot!

[MBisonSon]

Chase Daniels and Trubisky had extremely similar stats before the saints game

I know.

And then Chase Daniel went Chase Daniel and threw a literal game losing interception into like triple coverage vs Oakland.

I'm gonna say it again like I said it before regarding Trubisky's: There's NO WAY you can make a case for a guy with like an 86 QB rating, 2 TD's and no turnovers losing the game.

[AMeyer9]

I know.

And then Chase Daniel went Chase Daniel and threw a literal game losing interception into like triple coverage vs Oakland.

I'm gonna say it again like I said it before regarding Trubisky's: There's NO WAY you can make a case for a guy with like an 86 QB rating, 2 TD's and no turnovers losing the game.

Why in the actual **** do you think a QB Rating of 86 is good?

What was it before garbage time? How delusional can one idiot really be?




Find out tomorrow on the next episode of Timmy's Hot Takes

[cheerupemokid]

I know.

And then Chase Daniel went Chase Daniel and threw a literal game losing interception into like triple coverage vs Oakland.

I'm gonna say it again like I said it before regarding Trubisky's: There's NO WAY you can make a case for a guy with like an 86 QB rating, 2 TD's and no turnovers losing the game.

Even the coach said Trubiksy’s garbage time stats don’t matter. Stop clinging to them.

Trubiksy leads the league in uncatchable throws, has the lowest yards per completion, and even he admitted he should have handed it off to Montgomery on the RPO in which he stupidly ran into a sack.

[Lunatic]

Yes imagine the nerve of defending a guy over inaccurate throws when half the time he gets two seconds or less to throw.

And when he gets more than two seconds about half those times his pocket is pushed back a yard and he can't step into throws.

And with those factors taken into consideration in last two full games the guy has? Oh yeah, five TD's versus one interception.

Why would anyone defend that?

The nerve.

Retard.

(Let's not even get into the drops, or the lack of a running game, dumb fuk)

Yes, imagine complaining about your QB having to deal with, you know, normal things for a QB like a defense that is good enough to get through the OL and making the QB actually do his job (VERY poorly).

Imagine bragging about him getting completions in garbage time during prevent defense.

Imagine those 5 TDs and 1 INT, 2 of which happening in garbage time and the other 3 against a HORRIBLE Redskins team, still doing absolutely nothing to change the fact that your QB is still ridiculously awful. In fact, he's awful enough that Bears fans were booing him IN CHICAGO during the Saints game (in b4 the boos weren't directed at him).

Imagine calling someone a retard when you constantly make excuses for one of the worst 5 QBs currently starting.

Imagine complaining about dropped passes when Trushitsky routinely over/underthrows his team.

Imagine acting like you have people on ignore and still reading everything they post, but still responding when you think you prove yourself right only to get laughed at by everyone just to act like you put the person "back on ignore again."

Dumb fuck.

Why in the actual **** do you think a QB Rating of 86 is good?

What was it before garbage time? How delusional can one idiot really be?


Find out tomorrow on the next episode of Timmy's Hot Takes

It's okay, bro. He had 250 yards and 2 TDs in garbage time. It absolves him of his horrible performance through the first 3+ quarters.

Even the coach said Trubiksy’s garbage time stats don’t matter. Stop clinging to them.

Trubiksy leads the league in uncatchable throws, has the lowest yards per completion, and even he admitted he should have handed it off to Montgomery on the RPO in which he stupidly ran into a sack.

It's okay, bro. His 250 yards and 2 TDs in garbage time absolves him of his terrible performance through the first 3+ quarters.

[El Conquistador]

I know.

And then Chase Daniel went Chase Daniel and threw a literal game losing interception into like triple coverage vs Oakland.

I'm gonna say it again like I said it before regarding Trubisky's: There's NO WAY you can make a case for a guy with like an 86 QB rating, 2 TD's and no turnovers losing the game.

[MBisonSon]

Even the coach said Trubiksy’s garbage time stats don’t matter. Stop clinging to them.

Trubiksy leads the league in uncatchable throws, has the lowest yards per completion, and even he admitted he should have handed it off to Montgomery on the RPO in which he stupidly ran into a sack.

I'm not clinging to his stats dummy I'm saying this: Trubisky put 12 points on the board, with no turnovers.

Yes he made bad throws, yes he made bad decisions, but if your QB could give you 2 TD's and no turnovers every game you'd take it.

Because it's not bad.

He put those points up, regardless of garbage time or not you'd rather have the points than not in any circumstance.

Stop trying to single him out instead of looking at the big picture, especially when guys literally turned the ball over, and killed drives with crucial drops.

Yes Trubisky had his **** ups but there were also plenty of other guys ****ing up way worse, which is exactly what the stats point to.

Even if you wanna say the TD's don't matter the 0 turnovers absolutely do matter in any game.

Fact is in his last 2 full games dude's thrown for 5 TD's with 1 turnover.

I don't get how/why people are ignoring the bottom line.

Imagine wanting the guy with a 5:1 TD/TO in last two games gone, it's kinda ridiculous when you take a step back and see it for exactly what it is.

When he gets good enough blocking he does just fine (which there is plenty of proof on film), it's called playing QB in the NFL

You could twist it however you want but it's all right there on tape.

[AK5426]

I'm not clinging to his stats dummy I'm saying this: Trubisky put 3 points on the board, with no turnovers.

Fixed. You realize the bears would have to have gotten a safety to even have 12 points?? Are you serious? The bears never had 12 points the saints did the bears had 10 and Patterson got 7 of those on a kickoff return. Did you even watch the game?


So Trubisky had 3 points in 3 quarters.

3 points in 3 quarters


3 points in 3 quarters

[MBisonSon]

With the statistics in mind it's just not a logical stance to take unless you wanna avoid looking at all the other mistakes other guys made, some of which led to those circumstances.

No run game, dropped passes on crucial plays to extend drives, no pass blocking, messy pockets, two turnovers by offensive skill players, defense couldn't make plays against the Saints OL, etc.

Give me a list of QB's that would have 3 TD's with that **** show, you could name a small handful with any kind of certainty, if even that.

[cheerupemokid]

I'm not clinging to his stats dummy I'm saying this: Trubisky put 12 points on the board, with no turnovers.

Yes he made bad throws, yes he made bad decisions, but if your QB could give you 2 TD's and no turnovers every game you'd take it.

Because it's not bad.

He put those points up, regardless of garbage time or not you'd rather have the points than not in any circumstance.

Stop trying to single him out instead of looking at the big picture, especially when guys literally turned the ball over, and killed drives with crucial drops.

Yes Trubisky had his **** ups but there were also plenty of other guys ****ing up way worse, which is exactly what the stats point to.

Even if you wanna say the TD's don't matter the 0 turnovers absolutely do matter in any game.

Fact is in his last 2 full games dude's thrown for 5 TD's with 1 turnover.

I don't get how/why people are ignoring the bottom line.

Imagine wanting the guy with a 5:1 TD/TO in last two games gone, it's kinda ridiculous when you take a step back and see it for exactly what it is.

When he gets good enough blocking he does just fine (which there is plenty of proof on film), it's called playing QB in the NFL

You could twist it however you want but it's all right there on tape.

I’m not twisting anything. Garbage time is called garbage time for a reason. The Saints had taken their foot off the gas.

Trubiksy didn’t have any interceptions but he also threw the ball away on 4th down in the 4th which is worse because it means he either gave up or didn’t realize it was 4th down.

Trubiksy was a terrible draft pick that is not good at playing QB and is going to cost the Bears a shot at the Super Bowl in this window.

Guys missing blocks or fumbling happens to every team. Does Tom Brady fall apart in a game in which he’s sacked and someone fumbles? Nope. And by his own admission the sack of Trubiksy in this game was his own fault, by the way.

Have some standards. There is no reason why the Bears shouldn’t have a good QB at some point.

[Lunatic]

Fixed. You realize the bears would have to have gotten a safety to even have 12 points?? Are you serious? The bears never had 12 points the saints did the bears had 10 and Patterson got 7 of those on a kickoff return. Did you even watch the game?


So Trubisky had 3 points in 3 quarters.

3 points in 3 quarters


3 points in 3 quarters

Lmfao

With the statistics in mind it's just not a logical stance to take unless you wanna avoid looking at all the other mistakes other guys made, some of which led to those circumstances.

No run game, dropped passes on crucial plays to extend drives, no pass blocking, messy pockets, two turnovers by offensive skill players, defense couldn't make plays against the Saints OL, etc.

Give me a list of QB's that would have 3 TD's with that **** show, you could name a small handful with any kind of certainty, if even that.

You really don't watch the games... that or you're crediting Patterson's kick return to Trubisky, which is even more delusional.

Russell Wilson
Drew Brees
Tom Brady
Pat Mahomes
Aaron Rodgers
Ben Rapistberger
Carson Wentz
Philip Rivers

and they have all done it

[PuckTheFackers]

With the statistics in mind it's just not a logical stance to take unless you wanna avoid looking at all the other mistakes other guys made, some of which led to those circumstances.

No run game, dropped passes on crucial plays to extend drives, no pass blocking, messy pockets, two turnovers by offensive skill players, defense couldn't make plays against the Saints OL, etc.

Give me a list of QB's that would have 3 TD's with that **** show, you could name a small handful with any kind of certainty, if even that.

Big yikes.

Mitch is the worst starting QB in the league... there's backups I'd take over him. The offense looked much more fluent under Chase Daniels just 2 ****ing weeks ago so there goes that narrative.

No point in arguing in hypotheticals. When you get to that point, you've already lost the argument.

[AMeyer9]

With the statistics in mind it's just not a logical stance to take unless you wanna avoid looking at all the other mistakes other guys made, some of which led to those circumstances.

No run game, dropped passes on crucial plays to extend drives, no pass blocking, messy pockets, two turnovers by offensive skill players, defense couldn't make plays against the Saints OL, etc.

Give me a list of QB's that would have 3 TD's with that **** show, you could name a small handful with any kind of certainty, if even that.

I watch a lot of sportscasters, podcasts, in various NFL discord servers, etc. and from what I can tell, you're literally the only person on this entire planet that is defending Trubisky.

Again, when he's asked to throw 10+ yards 46% of his passes are uncatchable. Is that the receivers fault too? Wake the **** up Timmy.