Poll: Do you eat "clean" or follow "IIFYM"?

[jbball92]

ITT: retards think IIFYM means 4 big macs a day

thats exactly what it means.

[wtfshyt11]

What does it mean, bro?

IIFYM means moderation and common sense. Its logic is completely lost on idiots.

[Ka0s]

IIFYM means moderation and common sense. Its logic is completely lost on idiots.

I think you're thinking of MACS (moderation and common sense)

IIFYM means If it fits your macros

Good try though

[wtfshyt11]

I think you're thinking of MACS (moderation and common sense)

IIFYM means If it fits your macros

Good try though

yes, that is wut the acronym stand for but there is more to it than that.

just like there is more to the term "eat big, lift heavy".

[Ka0s]

yes, that is wut the acronym stand for but there is more to it than that.

just like there is more to the term "eat big, lift heavy".

No, that is literally what it means

Like if someone says "Should I eat X" the answer is: "If it fits your macros"


Stop trying to attach additional definitions, disclaimers, subtleties, etc. to it

[CawkBrah]

Eat clean.. All day err day

[jbball92]

Eat clean.. All day err day

[nilekyle]

iifym and eating clean some what go hand and hand. you got to somewhat eat clean to hit macros

i mean you could eat chocolate and drink whey all day but that's not really practical, your gonna feel ****ty and hungry all day. if you want to fit your macros and feel somewhat good and energized you are going to have to eat moderately clean.

[wtfshyt11]

No, that is literally what it means

Like if someone says "Should I eat X" the answer is: "If it fits your macros"


Stop trying to attach additional definitions, disclaimers, subtleties, etc. to it

the people who ask questions like that are usually eating "clean" foods for all their meals anyway and usually ask some redundant question such as "peanut butter, is it good on a cut?".

The addition disclaimers are there for people that dont understand "moderation" "whole foods" "processed foods" "micronutrients" etc.

[Ka0s]

the people who ask questions like that are usually eating "clean" foods for all their meals anyway and usually ask some redundant question such as "peanut butter, is it good on a cut?".

The addition disclaimers are there for people that dont understand "moderation" "whole foods" "processed foods" "micronutrients" etc.

So it really should be

IIFYMBSDEIEIIFYMBSTAFEITA

If it fits your macros but sometimes dont eat it even if it fits your macros because some things arent fully explained in this acronym?


Cool.

[Seal16]

Eat as much as I can in an effort to gain weight

[Ka0s]

PS Peanut butter is a sh*tty thing to eat on a cut

[wtfshyt11]

So it really should be

IIFYMBSDEIEIIFYMBSTAFEITA

If it fits your macros but sometimes dont eat it even if it fits your macros because some things arent fully explained in this acronym?


Cool.

i dont much care for the acronym either, its the logic behind it that people fail to understand and end up going far left extremist on everything.

[jake1224]

Yes, but that's only because IIFYM is the most ambiguous piece of sh*t ever devised. If you eat rice and bananas, it's IIFYM, if you cheesecakes and chocolate, it's IIFYM. If you don't eat processed foods, it's IIFYM and if you eat only processed foods, it's IIFYM. If you care about micronutrients, it's IIFYM, if you don't care about micronutrients, it's also IIFYM, etc

Let's be honestly honest

Do you not htink there are some lurking variables here?

I don't know. It's stupid to me. Depending on which camp you subscribe to, IIFYM either means something so completely obvious that it's not worth having an acronym for it, or something so completely radical that I find it ridiculous to believe.

PS Peanut butter is a sh*tty thing to eat on a cut

Okay, a little history lesson because you didn't follow the Nutrition boards about a year ago, when this all sprang up.

Way back when, there were a lot of "can I eat X" posts. Like, a lot. Around this time, I posted regularly along with WonderPug and ErickStevens, both of whom supplied credible evidence vouching for the quantity approach to macros rather than the quality.

Both of these guys at first (and others like us) made semi-detailed points to explain why a fat is a fat and a carb is a carb, which I'm inclined to believe you agree with. However, the idiotic posts kept coming, and they got tired of preaching paragraph after paragraph. So they cleverly dubbed IIFYM their diet philosophy. Now - the original incarnation of the philosophy (it is not a specific diet, mind you) was that there is always "wiggle room" in a macronutrient plan for preference foods. This is what had been explained over and over. Naturally, people get jaded about repeating themselves, so they simplify the idea down to the "you can eat whatever you want as long as it fits your macros" moniker, which is technically true. Macronutrient content in foods will not affect body composition so long as proper numbers are maintained.

Of course, this in its simplest form sounds exactly like "eat whatever you want" - what happens in mass psychology when such a good thing springs up? It's bastardized and taken to both extremes. Pro-IIFYM camps are just as idiotic as anti-IIFYM, and the guys who started it just sit around like da **** is going on.


Probably didn't answer any of your questions and I hate peanut butter.

[LifesNotEasy]

IIFYM. Most people think that people on an IIFYM diet eat nothing but poptart and hamburgers.
Although they CAN, I doubt most people WOULD.

This applies especially during a cut, like I'm right now.
I can only eat 1900 calories a day, doing IIFYM.
Am I eating poptarts and ice creams? NO.
Why? Because its not filling, so thats why I eat my Fiberous "clean" food.

People need to get the idea that IIFYM doesn't automatically mean that person is eating 5 poptarts a day.
Although they certainly can, I doubt many people would actually like that.

[J1nx93]

IIFYM. Most people think that people on an IIFYM diet eat nothing but poptart and hamburgers.
Although they CAN, I doubt most people WOULD.

This applies especially during a cut, like I'm right now.
I can only eat 1900 calories a day, doing IIFYM.
Am I eating poptarts and ice creams? NO.
Why? Because its not filling, so thats why I eat my Fiberous "clean" food.

People need to get the idea that IIFYM doesn't automatically mean that person is eating 5 poptarts a day.
Although they certainly can, I doubt many people would actually like that.

Repped

[as3d]

5 star thread.

[Ka0s]

Jake interesting anecdote. Clearly its being misinterpreted as f*Ck, what peopel should say is, allow some room for personal preferences in your food selection while still hitting your macronutrients as well as getting sufficient micros n sh*t

This applies especially during a cut, like I'm right now.
I can only eat 1900 calories a day, doing IIFYM.
Am I eating poptarts and ice creams? NO.
Why? Because its not filling, so thats why I eat my Fiberous "clean" food.

This is the problem with IIFYM. I can eat pizza and protein shakes and more or less hit my macros every day

But at one point my body composition would suffer because I would be dead because 12lbs of sh*t would collect inside of my intestines which due to the lack of fiber in my diet I couldnt excrete

[Animal_Strength]

to clarify:

IIFYM means eating clean, hitting your allotted protein, carbs, fats, and if you have calories left over, you can eat what you want until you reach that amount of calories.

IIFYM does not mean eating **** and getting your fats and carbs from oreos.

[J1nx93]

Since we're talking about macros, does anyone know any good iPhone app to count your macros and calories?

[as3d]

to clarify:

IIFYM means eating clean, hitting your allotted protein, carbs, fats, and if you have calories left over, you can eat what you want until you reach that amount of calories.

IIFYM does not mean eating **** and getting your fats and carbs from oreos.

IIFYM means eating whatever the fuck you want as long as it hits your macros.
there is no order in which you have to meet them.

[Ka0s]

to clarify:

IIFYM means eating clean, hitting your allotted protein, carbs, fats, and if you have calories left over

Nope, it certainly doesnt mean that

if u hit your p/c/f, there is no way to have cals left over....

[Ka0s]

IIFYM means eating whatever the fuck you want as long as it hits your macros.
there is no order in which you have to meet them.

I guarantee that my body composition would be worse if I got no micronutrients

[zj95maxx]

Since we're talking about macros, does anyone know any good iPhone app to count your macros and calories?

MyFitnessPal

It is free and the best calorie tracker I have ever used.

Get it

[as3d]

I guarantee that my body composition would be worse if I got no micronutrients

okay, i'll rephrase.


IIFYM eating whatever the fuck you want as long as you hit your macronutrients, including fiber.

oh, and don't forget to take a multi...and lift heavy.

[Ka0s]

okay, i'll rephrase.


IIFYM eating whatever the fuck you want as long as you hit your macronutrients, including fiber.

oh, and don't forget to take a multi...and lift heavy.

I still think my body composition would be worse over the long-term

Lurking variables such as drop of performance in the gym, etc

[J1nx93]

MyFitnessPal

It is free and the best calorie tracker I have ever used.

Get it

Thanks man, repped. Nice avatar btw lol

[as3d]

I still think my body composition would be worse over the long-term

Lurking variables such as drop of performance in the gym, etc

so you're supporting the 'clean eating' bandwagon?
or just that you must fit you macro's + micro's?

Don't get me wrong, the majority of my diet is considered 'clean' by most, consisting of wholegrain rolled oats, nuts, fruits, and meat. however i won't hesitate at all to add some nutella, ice cream, or chocolate to the mix as long as it fits.
always take my fishoils + multi's.

i'm just interested in what your 'diet' approach is.

[Coltsfan02]

usually "clean"

[FFGtobuff]

I try to eat Fresh whole foods, but I do eat some candy chips, or fried foods semi-frequently.