"People should be able to make their own choices, not the government" (Cigarettes)

[SwoleSikh]

All *******s saying australia is beta for banning branding etc. and people should be able to make their own choices, yall are mad.

- Australia is the most alpha country for doing this
- No rational person should smoke in the first place
- govt. is the one who has to look after all the *******s in the hospital and spend ****loads on healthcare due to smoking related problems.
- Due to this, we all pay higher taxes to cover for healthcare.
- I hate it when a ******* is smoking in front of me and forces me to passively inhale the garbage.

In my opinion this is one of the best decisions Australian Government has made in a long time. Not only it will save lives and decrease the overall healthcare costs, but it will improve the general environment in regards to pollution and passive smoking in the community.

yall mad smokin *******s.

[TheMan1mal95]

Lulz, Authoritarian and Atheist.

Sad combo, *******.

They should penalise the fuk out of people who smoke, and discourage smoking, instead of banning them altogether

[SwoleSikh]

Lulz, Authoritarian and Atheist.

Sad combo, *******.

They should penalise the fuk out of people who smoke, and discourage smoking, instead of banning them altogether

age: 16
lol @ penalising people for smoking.
I don't expect you to understand how society works, all I can expect from you is to exit this thread and proceed towards teen misc.

[aDreamstate]

no idea what you're talking about

[eviseri]

they banned cigs in Australia?

[fuzionite]

age: 16
lol @ penalising people for smoking.
I don't expect you to understand how society works, all I can expect from you is to exit this thread and proceed towards teen misc.

OP agreed.
Australia and countries like Switzerland are becoming more and more alpha, political correctness and over exertion of peoples rights will be the downfall of society.
GJAM (A= australian)

[mj53son]

Agree with OP. 99.99% of people in this world have already shown they cannot handle the responsibility of making their own choices.

[SwoleSikh]

they banned cigs in Australia?

they banned branding, now all cigarettes will come in the same packaging:



Which is possibly one step closer to banning smoking alltogether.

[StateIron]

OP agreed.
Australia and countries like Switzerland are becoming more and more alpha, political correctness and over exertion of peoples rights will be the downfall of society.
GJAM (A= australian)

[DriftS30Z]

Holy ****, Australia banned cigarettes? Alpha as ****!

edit: saw what they did. Still alpha as phuck. Nothing but pussies and whiney bitches stateside. Supposedly they're going to get similar covers in a year or two here, but it'll be more like an ad that comes in the packaging than removing the branding all together, which I love.

[aDreamstate]

lold

and btw the only reason they are even legal isnt about freedoms at all, it's because they earn billions

[4nicate]

I wish they would ban cigs in America. Every time I have to inhale even the slightest bit of some *******s cigarette smoke, I have to restrain myself from beating the **** out of the loser piece of **** smoker

[Beeewbs]

Lulz, Authoritarian and Atheist.

Sad combo, *******.

They should penalise the fuk out of people who smoke, and discourage smoking, instead of banning them altogether

Does that mean the US is authoritarian because they don't allow weed for most of the population in most states? Or hookers? Or meth? Or Ecstasy? Or gambling? Or what about the US government putting crazy high taxes on cigarettes? Or making them put warning labels on packs?

[Turbomunkey]

First they ban riding bikes without a helmet, now they banned cigarettes. Good trend. Good luck in your 2020 freedom goals

[stonefacekilla]

-smokers pay tax in their cigarettes
-how do you know that all these *******s that smoke didn't hold higher paid jobs than you and subsequently paid more taxes than you, therefore, all the dumb fuks who work any low paid job should also not get healthcare
-personal freedoms and all that
-smoking should be banned in public because it can bother others but at home i cant see why


How you gonna feel if they start limiting the speed on your sports car to that of the national speed limit?
How about you get shown a vid on liver problems every time you buy a beer?
How would you feel if your pizza was delivered buy a overweight guy who lectures you on the dangers of eating too much pizza?


And to that ******* above that claims Switzerland is alpha lol wut? After living there for a year i could see its not alpha at all.

Shouldnt you aussies be more worried about your water supply?

[danwantsicetea]

who cares if people smoke? if they want to kill themselves let them. smokers don't tell you what to do, why do you think you can control peoples free will. and making it illegal? its not like it has any harmful effects like meth or crack. people aren't going to smoke a cig then go kill something cause there rocking some crazy high. i love america

[tbonez3858]

I do not agree OP...

You control nothing in this world except yourself
Every time you give an entity power to control an aspect of your life you lose a little piece of the only thing you control
The items that you control directly correlate to the amount of freedom you have
The ONLY exception to this rule is the freedoms that you enjoy that encroach on other peoples freedoms/rights

Another words if Australia wants to ban smoking in public places and around others that is fine
To totally ban smoking is against a humans free will and is completely the opposite of alpha...



No not a smoker.

[SwoleSikh]

First they ban riding bikes without a helmet, now they banned cigarettes. Good trend. Good luck in your 2020 freedom goals

lol @ thinking that the "freedom" is about riding bikes or smoking.. srsly u dont know the meaning of freedom. Only *******s who are gonna complain about freedom and all the bs are the ones that are hardcore smokers who live to smoke and have nothing better to do in their lives.

-smokers pay tax in their cigarettes
-how do you know that all these *******s that smoke didn't hold higher paid jobs than you and subsequently paid more taxes than you, therefore, all the dumb fuks who work any low paid job should also not get healthcare
-personal freedoms and all that
-smoking should be banned in public because it can bother others but at home i cant see why


How you gonna feel if they start limiting the speed on your sports car to that of the national speed limit?
How about you get shown a vid on liver problems every time you buy a beer?
How would you feel if your pizza was delivered buy a overweight guy who lectures you on the dangers of eating too much pizza?


And to that ******* above that claims Switzerland is alpha lol wut? After living there for a year i could see its not alpha at all.

Shouldnt you aussies be more worried about your water supply?

srsly though, i would support the government if they took drastic measures in regards to obesity, alcohol or any other major issue control which is sending this country down the gutter. I don't smoke, neither am I obese and I hardly ever drink alcohol.

Also not a single fuk would be given if some fastfood resturants like mcdonalds etc. got closed down.

[danwantsicetea]

lol @ thinking that the "freedom" is about riding bikes or smoking.. srsly u dont know the meaning of freedom. Only *******s who are gonna complain about freedom and all the bs are the ones that are hardcore smokers who live to smoke and have nothing better to do in their lives.


srsly though, i would support the government if they took drastic measures in regards to obesity, alcohol or any other major issue control which is sending this country down the gutter. I don't smoke, neither am I obese and I hardly ever drink alcohol.

Also not a single fuk would be given if some fastfood resturants like mcdonalds etc. got closed down.

so because you chose not to do any of those things you think everyone else should too. egocentric you are

[SwoleSikh]

so because you chose not to do any of those things you think everyone else should too. egocentric you are

I don't do it because its harmful, people do it because they are idiots.

[tbonez3858]

I don't do it because its harmful, people do it because they are idiots.

So you believe your personal freedoms are subjected to the whims of a mob and what they consider safe for you?


I dont want to live in your world OP...(dead srs)

[SwoleSikh]

who cares if people smoke? if they want to kill themselves let them. smokers don't tell you what to do, why do you think you can control peoples free will. and making it illegal? its not like it has any harmful effects like meth or crack. people aren't going to smoke a cig then go kill something cause there rocking some crazy high. i love america

I do not agree OP...

You control nothing in this world except yourself
Every time you give an entity power to control an aspect of your life you lose a little piece of the only thing you control
The items that you control directly correlate to the amount of freedom you have
The ONLY exception to this rule is the freedoms that you enjoy that encroach on other peoples freedoms/rights

Another words if Australia wants to ban smoking in public places and around others that is fine
To totally ban smoking is against a humans free will and is completely the opposite of alpha...



No not a smoker.

You know how much money the government would waste in trying to catch people smoking in public? Police has other things to do rather than catching people and fining them for smoking in public. The point here is not to stop people smoking in public, because that would still produce the same end result, i.e. smoking health related problems in the long run. Doesnt matter where you smoke, inside or outside, you are still ****ing your body in the long run.

The overall aim here is to reduce health related costs, which can only be done ultimately if smoking becomes illegal in the entire country and is extremely hard to obtain illegally as well. Though this non-branding should discourage some people to stop smoking or smoke less etc., I think the end result of all this should still be an overall ban on smoking alltogether.

[tk217]

Does that mean the US is authoritarian because they don't allow weed for most of the population in most states? Or hookers? Or meth? Or Ecstasy? Or gambling? Or what about the US government putting crazy high taxes on cigarettes? Or making them put warning labels on packs?

Yes -- it does. Why are you even asking this question? That is the definition of authoritarian.

[CommonPheasant]

Yes, no rational person would ever drink alcohol. Government has to look after people who get injured in DUI related car accidents and have liver failure.

Prohibition Part II here we come!!

[snp1686]

when it's something you're for you will praise the government. When they start banning other things that you like, you will change your tune.
Now move along citizen, you're nothing but government's bitch

[tbonez3858]

You know how much money the government would waste in trying to catch people smoking in public? Police has other things to do rather than catching people and fining them for smoking in public. The point here is not to stop people smoking in public, because that would still produce the same end result, i.e. smoking health related problems in the long run. Doesnt matter where you smoke, inside or outside, you are still ****ing your body in the long run.

The government would waste exactly the same amount of money catching public smokers as they do on people streaking nude in public. 99% of the laws are self regulating and that is what makes up the fabric of society. You are always going to have the one of criminal who chooses to go against public law but then again you have that with every law.

[Electric]

thats actually the kind of government regulating I agree with... it's not that they're being a 'nanny state' really, it's more of just a warning like 'go ahead and smoke, but just remember it can cause this'. I would not agree with a total ban though.

Canada is doing something similar, not sure when it will actually start though. They're about to dedicate 75% or so of the packaging to the warnings..right now it's around 50%. like this;

[SwoleSikh]

The government would waste exactly the same amount of money catching public smokers as they do on people streaking nude in public. 99% of the laws are self regulating and that is what makes up the fabric of society. You are always going to have the one of criminal who chooses to go against public law but then again you have that with every law.

smoking (which is likely to be done by millions of people) to streaking (which is extremely rare and only done for bets or on sporting events in australia) is not a good comparison. Of course all those things cost govt. money, but you cant eliminate everything bad at once, and this is just one step at a time process. Today smoking has passed through senate to be unbranded, I hope tomorrow fast food is banned for people over a certain weight and I would fully support it.

[arn710]

I think you'll feel differently once they ban something that you like to do

The government has no right taking away personal freedoms

[tbonez3858]

smoking (which is likely to be done by millions of people) to streaking (which is extremely rare and only done for bets or on sporting events in australia) is not a good comparison. Of course all those things cost govt. money, but you cant eliminate everything bad at once, and this is just one step at a time process. Today smoking has passed through senate to be unbranded, I hope tomorrow fast food is banned for people over a certain weight and I would fully support it.

You cant base your decision to create wise laws that protect peoples freedoms based upon the fear that people will not adhere to them....