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    I do them front, barely do them, so no expert. I have problem with the bar hitting/ dragging my nuts as well :/... Never tried back method, seems a bit awkward , but might give it a go, might feel better on my back.
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    I find that doing them from behind helps relieve some stress from the back because you dont really have all that weight pulling you fprward
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    In and subbed. Your moving quite good number in higher rep ranges bro.
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    Overhead + squat

    Today was a horrible horrible day.


    --start - overhead press

    I didn't think this yesterday, but the big back work and dips and heavy pressing killed every single muscle that works in the overhead press. My lats and traps couldn't balance the weight, my tri,front delt etc, where killed, couldn't lockout... Just bad.

    170x0.75, I wanted to max at 180 today, no joy. ofcourse
    154x3+2 push press
    154x3+2 push press
    143x5
    132x5+3
    132x5+3 even, urghhhhhhhhhhhhh


    Squat, this were tough, from set 3, really hard, Almost failed in the last rep for the last 2 sets. I had very little time due the gym closing. rushing through this was one of the hardest things I have done so far in the gym. I did bounce a bit off the box in the last few reps of the last set, Not good, but I want to just get it done.


    303x6
    303x6
    303x6
    303x6
    303x6
    303x6

    My calves are also killing me, DOMs came around from monday, I can barely walk, it feels like daggers on my calves, squatting with this was also quite hard.


    ---

    Did a few rear delt flies,

    didn't have time for sides raisers or 1 arm dumbell press. So I might do some of it tomorrow, barely feel I hit my shoulders.




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    Originally Posted by jbball92 View Post
    lol same.

    I find that doing them from behind helps relieve some stress from the back because you dont really have all that weight pulling you fprward
    Makes sense, Does the weight you move go down using the back method?


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    In and subbed. Your moving quite good number in higher rep ranges bro.
    Thanks man, I have always been a low rep person, I suck at high rep work, so I'm trying to slowly incorporate more of it, get better at them.
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    Originally Posted by Xuaxace View Post
    Makes sense, Does the weight you move go down using the back method?




    Thanks man, I have always been a low rep person, I suck at high rep work, so I'm trying to slowly incorporate more of it, get better at them.
    Should try doing a cardio and dynamics day. Back when I did long distance running and accompanied with lots of plyometrics my endurance shot through the roof. Ended up transferring over into the weights as well.

    Haha damn that actually reminds me I havnt done cardio for a month now.
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    Yesterdays log, bench + back + shoulder accesories

    I forgot my notepad yesterday so this are the main things that stuck.

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    Started with bench press, for speed.

    176x8
    176x8
    176x8
    132x10

    --
    Pull ups

    bw x 10
    bw x 10
    bw x 10

    -----
    1 arm db press (standing, strongman type, with leg drive)

    82 (37,5kg x2
    88 (40kg ) x 1, I had trouble locking the left arm, took me 3 goes. Bloody hard exersise.

    ----
    Db flat 82x10
    Incline 82x8
    82.8

    ----
    1 arm dumbell row, from a deadstop, fairly strict

    88x8
    110x8
    110x8




    Farmer walks 60m (walk to one end of the gym and come back)


    88's x60m
    83 x60m
    88 x60m
    82 x60m
    35 x60m




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    Bunch of side raisers

    Some abs chruches with 20kg 2 sets + leg raisers with 7.5 kg

    Then some more pull ups towards the end.
    bwx10
    bwx 10
    bw x 10


    Then I had a massive strench session, 30 mins, loosened up beutifully.


    ---motivation, farmer walks.

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    Squat + a bit of arm accesory

    Today was sick (good)


    Started with squats, I decided to change my technique a bit, so I don't wear out my hips as much. Instead of using my hips as a break to lower my self down, go down half way or 2/3 and then loosen up (dive to the hole) and activate to get a big stretch reflex and explosion from the hole. I Used to squat that way, don't know why I stopped. point is, made the squating a piece of cake, I was moving the weight with no issues, tripples felt like sets of 5.

    330x3
    330x3
    330x3
    330x3
    330x3
    330x3
    330x3
    330x3
    330x3
    330x3

    I will try to get a video next week of how I squat, putting numbers here without at least a video doesn't prove much.

    ----

    Moved on to some dumbell romanian deadlifts. I love this, feel so great compared to barbell.

    77x3
    88x5
    99x3
    110x8
    110x8
    88x8

    Fuark, best strech ever, I go very low on this, where the db almost touches the floor. Still bend knees are get my hips a bit backwards so still a romanian and not stiff.

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    Leg extensions. So it has been a bit of cocern lately that I don't do anything that is remotely quad dominant, So from now on I will throw throw this 1 or 2 a week. I can do the whole stack (220) x10 reps for sets fair easy, so I must have some strength there.

    Anyway, today I concentrated on slow contractions + holds, didn't go beyond 120lb, a few sets of 10, with 3-4 sec concentric + 2 secs top hold.

    -- Also did some glute on a machine, it sucks. So I will be adding barbell glute bridges soon.

    ---

    Random arm work, I really can't be bothered writting all of this down but mainly

    hammers = few sets of 55 and 1 of 60, 8 reps. Not the best form, arms were dead from squats, go figure.
    Spoon = 2 sets of 77lb x8
    Db curl = 33lb for 3 sets of 8-10
    1 db overhead extension. 77lb x3 sets of 10. Great stretch of the long head.


    ---After that I did some conditioning work, run/walk a flight of starts behind the gym (goes two stories high) 60 times while I was waiting for my brother to pick me up.


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    So you did Military press and not Overhead press?
    I always do overhead press (20-30cm gap between my feet). I sometimes say millitary, but always mean overhead.

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    Should try doing a cardio and dynamics day. Back when I did long distance running and accompanied with lots of plyometrics my endurance shot through the roof. Ended up transferring over into the weights as well.

    Haha damn that actually reminds me I havnt done cardio for a month now.
    I usually have some days to concentrate on speed, both of squats and speed. Definitely have help me with high rep work. Also started doing some conditioning (steps ) work, as per todays post, because i have lost considerable amount of muscle endurance, since I'm not playing much sports. Hope to improve my cardiovascular system a bit, get my resting bpm lower.
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    Squats + accesory work

    Today was fairly tough, I'm starting to get signs of chronic fatigue, 110 working reps above 80% of 1rm + considerable amount of accessory work is getting to me. I finish this small program this week so then it is a week of 50 working reps to tone things down a notch.
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    Squats, 10.5 inch box, way below parallel

    286x9
    286x9
    286x9 last 2 reps, really tough, form breakdown
    286x9 last 3 reps fairly tough, tipping forward, knees a bit caving in.

    I got it done So I'm fairly happy.

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    Goodmonings to parallel to floor, wide stance

    165x5
    187x5
    198x5 PR, fairly easy, (I'm going slow with this exersise dude my lower back.

    -----

    GHR, ghetto using the squat rack to lock my legs. Still quite weak at it, so only negatives

    5xbw
    5xbw ouch

    ----

    Lounges

    132x8 (each leg counts as half a rep)
    132x12

    ---

    a few romanian with 60lb dumbells x8

    a few glute bridges with 132x10 for a couple of sets.

    I didn't want to go crazy with accesory work.

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    So i have been sick for the last two days, cold + throat ****ed, green-brown mocus + feeling very lethargic. So I decided to skip the gym those two days. My legs are still ****ed from monday, specially my adductors, felt so tight, stabbing pain. Anyhow, managed a OK sesion, took me a lot longer than normal, with abnormal long brakes, didn't help that I was wearing a jumper on 37 degree day.


    Bench

    231x4 (at this point I new that 5x5 wasn't going to happen today due my sickness.
    231x3 + 2 reps after a 10 secs rest
    220x 6 (first time I have gone over 5 reps on 2 plates, could have gone for 7.
    226x4
    220x 5

    Squats

    314x6
    314x6
    314x6
    314x6
    314x6
    314x6

    Not to bad, would have been better without the pain on the adductors, I couldn't dive properly/

    Incline db press

    88x8 + 2 spotted
    88x6
    83x8
    83x6

    66 x 15 (only bottom half of the motion, no lockout)

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    Took me 2.5 hours lol.

    I also spotted this guy benching 330x5, which was pretty cool, new guy to the gym. His technique was a bit off, feet hanging in the air, but still reps to chest and managed to get through it with absolute brute force, if he polished his form he could deffinitely hit 4 plates on his own.. He Also did 400lb x 3 negatives (where I spotted him to get over the positive). I know this things aren't all that impressive in some gyms, but I have only seen people benching over 3 plates a couple of times in 2 years!) Also feels good for someone to ask you for a spot from the other side of the room on peak hour, so he kinda though I knew what I was doing!.



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    Wow, 2,5 hours thats a long session. I have never been in the gym more then 1.5h. One week my adductors was so damn sore it was extremely painful to lockout, every time i locked i got this sharp pain in my both adductors. Im soo looking forward to start squatting some heavy ass weight again :P
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    Shoulders and back

    Overhead press

    154x4
    143x5
    132x5

    My form felt pretty bad, font delts were very sore and tight from yesterdays incline work. I'm getting a bit annoyed at my overhead going backwards, might have to do something about it.

    pullups
    bw x 10
    bw x 10
    bw x 10

    Bent over rows All hook grip

    220x5 strict
    242x2 strict
    275x5 loose
    286x3 loose
    286x5 loose
    220x8 strict
    220x8 strict

    Smith seated press a few random sets while I was doing bent overs
    132lb + bar x 5
    132lb + bar x 5

    Knee high rack pulls - hook grip
    I don't want to do deadlifts because I'm still doing the squat routine and tomorrow will be a very hard day, but still wanted to pull.

    220x5
    265x5
    309x5
    352x3
    396x2+1

    All hook gripped. Hook strength is coming along.

    1 arm dumbell press

    55x5
    71x3
    No leg drive

    lateral raisers
    38x10
    38x10 Good pump

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    Wow, 2,5 hours thats a long session. I have never been in the gym more then 1.5h. One week my adductors was so damn sore it was extremely painful to lockout, every time i locked i got this sharp pain in my both adductors. Im soo looking forward to start squatting some heavy ass weight again :P
    yeah, I usually do pretty long workouts because of high volume, but yesterday was low volume and very long. When are you starting to squat heavy man?
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    yeah, I usually do pretty long workouts because of high volume, but yesterday was low volume and very long. When are you starting to squat heavy man?
    Im hoping before christmas, once i get the buttwink away i will start squatting heavy. It was impossible to keep good form with a rounded back.
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    Originally Posted by rasse226 View Post
    Im hoping before christmas, once i get the buttwink away i will start squatting heavy. It was impossible to keep good form with a rounded back.
    All the best, I dunno if I said this before but a lot of people get a buttwink due lack of glute activation, something to keep in mind. I used to have it and got rid of it in a couple of weeks by actively contracting the glutees.
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    squats

    342x3
    342x3
    342x3
    342x3
    342x3
    342x3
    342x3
    342x3
    342x3
    342x3


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    Legs and a bit of shoulder work

    Today was supposed to be a deload day, I don't know if that ended up happening.


    squats a bit of disconfort in my groin, on the left side, I was lifting cautiously.

    309x5
    309x8 PR (I don't know why I Decided to bump it to 8... but felt good)
    309x5
    309x7 (wanted another 8 rep set, but didn't want to push my groin)

    Goodmornings (kg)

    80kg x5
    90kg x 3
    100 x 5 PR (220lb,form could be a bit better, I used more leg drive that I should off by bending my knees more than necessary, still parallel to the floor)
    80x8

    Hack squat machine never done them,

    2 plates (each side) x 6 full ROM
    3 plates x 6 full room
    4 plates x 10, slightly below parallel,
    3 x 10 parallel
    2 x 15 full room.

    didn't feel it on my quads as much, maybe I need to make the room shorter and overload the quads like I seen some bb'er do in the gym...

    Lounges

    132x12
    132x12 (each leg is half a rep)

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    At this stage I did some shoulder work

    seated db press pretty crap, very fatigued
    66x9
    77x5
    61x10

    Side raisers

    38lb x 10
    38lb x 10

    Rear delt with barbell, wide grip

    bar x 12
    bar x 15 this actually feel really good, no swinging like with the db. I like it.


    Hise squats superseted by calf raisers

    100kg x8 hise ---- 100kg x 10 calf
    140kg x8 hise ---- 140kg x 10 calf
    160kg x8 hise (bit of momentum) ---- 160kg x 10 calf

    Then squat walk outs

    180kg x 2
    190 x 1
    200x 1
    210x 1

    Jesus, having 210 kg on your back is a crazy feeling, I wonder how on earth I am ever going to squat that.
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    good job on that pr bro.

    I never feel hack squats in my quads either, mostly my glutes
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    Originally Posted by jbball92 View Post
    good job on that pr bro.

    I never feel hack squats in my quads either, mostly my glutes
    Cheers, yeah, my glutes got a hammering, specially when going so low, not what I was looking for.

    I'm still trying to find a good quad dominant exersise (preferably on a machine). I don't know how effective leg extensions are in terms of quad strength, and leg presses hurt my back big time... Might have to go back to front squats.
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    Bench + bit of back

    Very average bench session, couldn't get confortable on my form, getting the bar out of the rack was very hard, there were no good people to ask for a spot.

    bench

    237x3
    237x2 so bad
    220x4 failed 5th, lol
    220x3
    220x3

    Shockingly bad numbers all around.

    Pullups

    10xbw
    8xbw
    6xbw + 6xbw

    Even this were hard, I think something I did yesterday made my branchialis very tired, maybe the squat walkouts, I was holding for dear life and felt very fatigued today.

    Incline

    176x5
    198x2
    220x0 fail, lol (was on the rack so I tried for lols, too fatigued to pull it off)
    176x5
    176x5
    154x8
    154x8 (no lockout, focusing on 3/4 of the movement)

    deficit sumo deadlifts using 10kg (22lb) plates.

    I wasn't suposed to do this but went for it, lots left on tank, just focused on technique.

    120kgx3
    140x3
    140x1
    145x1 (320lb)

    Overall quite happy, this is my return of deadlifts after a very long time. My issue is getting the bar from the floor, so I will pull on a deficit for a while and focus on form, my issue seems to be that the bar gets forward just before I want to pull, making the leverages harder, working on keeping the bar against my chins seems to help and today went very well.

    Tomorrow will do high box squats as accesory for it.



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    for a second I thought the bench press number were kilograms, lmao.

    I dont know how you do that much volume on incline, strong ass shoulders bro.
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    Originally Posted by jbball92 View Post
    for a second I thought the bench press number were kilograms, lmao.

    I dont know how you do that much volume on incline, strong ass shoulders bro.

    oh lawl, hopefully one day... In the mean time 140kg bench is the goal.

    I didn't realise how many sets I was doing until after I wrote the log. the 8 rep sets were a bit too submaximal. Regardless I think my millitary is going to suffer tomorrow because of it. I'm never getting a 200lb MP at this stage .
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    Strong incline benching brah! Mirin dat deficit pulling!
    Thanks mate, Now I'm wondering how much deficit the 10kg plates give, I think 3 inches at least, but hope for 4''. Would be sick to pull 160kg on friday. I hope to at least hit 155 though, can't get too ahead of myself considering how long it has been before I have done them.
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    Overhead press + box squats

    Overhead still sucky

    Overhead press

    132x8+2push
    154x3
    165x1
    154x2
    132x7+2

    Box squats

    12 inch box in KG

    100x3
    120x3
    140x3

    14inch box

    150x3

    16inch box

    165x1
    140x5 Video...

    I took a video of the 16 inch, I thought it would be sky high, but it ended up being fairly close to parallel. My form on box needs a lot of polishing as the video suggest. my knees should be behind my feet not foward, I'm starting the movement eccentric with my quads and not my glutes. I just need to sit a lot more, maybe a little less rocking. I haven't done this in a while so not to fuzzed that my form was off, will fix it next week hopefully.


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    Smith standing overhead just for a laugh when doing boxes

    something like 110lb+bar x8 for 3 sets or so, felt pretty good.

    Lateral raisers

    10kg (22lb) plates x 10
    10kg (22lb) plates x 10
    15kg (33lb) plates x 8

    Barbell rear delt row

    30kg (66lb) x 10
    30kg (66lb) x 10
    30kg (66lb) x 10

    Love them, I get pure contraction, nice and slow of the rear delts compared with the db flies that are all over the place. Good ****


    GHR

    bw x 5
    bw x 5
    bw x 5

    Hammstrings = dead.


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    strong box squats man, I actually find them harder than regular squats lol
    definitely harder, should be about 10-15% less than a normal squat I think. If boxes are stronger than normal squats, that person is squating high, or bouncing off the box.
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    Strong OHP's and box squats man! I find OHP extremely hard to progress on even tho all my other lifts are progressing fine lulz
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    Strong OHP's and box squats man! I find OHP extremely hard to progress on even tho all my other lifts are progressing fine lulz
    man i'm going backwards on overhead press. This was three weeks ago

    Start: overhead press

    154lb x 5 (70kg)
    154lb x 4
    154lb x 3 (I usually get the same reps or more, but I was working with my brother doing squats, so my rythem was completely off)
    165lb x 2 (75kg) (Felt like going up)
    154lb x 3
    132lb x 8 + 5 push presses
    I think It has to do with my benching the day before, really tires the prime movers as well as some secondary muscles. I'm going to have to figure a way to boost through it. I think next week I will try 75kg for tripples or something of the sort.
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