Nut Misc "Do You Even Lift?" Thread

[axxlef]

currently doing 5-3-1 until i have beaten all my prs set in my 20s. shoulders might be the big problem here curently pushing 135x4 need to hit 185 progress is slow.

[ven33]

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Id rather just make the stalker suffer. Intentionally bend over near her....knowing you can't have something is worse than not actually having it. lol

[JasonDB]

currently doing 5-3-1 until i have beaten all my prs set in my 20s. shoulders might be the big problem here crrently pushing 135x4 need to hit 185 progress is slow.

I won't be hitting my old PR's set in my 20's, at least not for a very long time if I do. LoL

I year you on OHP... My work sets this week have been with 135, strength still coming back slowly since recovering here... I need to increase weight on standing presses though the 135 is actually getting really light.

[NegatronPrime]

Id rather just make the stalker suffer. Intentionally bend over near her....knowing you can't have something is worse than not actually having it. lol

[axxlef]

I won't be hitting my old PR's set in my 20's, at least not for a very long time if I do. LoL

I year you on OHP... My work sets this week have been with 135, strength still coming back slowly since recovering here... I need to increase weight on standing presses though the 135 is actually getting really light.

not sure why its the shoulders that are so unresponsive my dead shot up to 375 pretty quickly should hit my 405 target by christmas. was wondering if adding an additional day of 10x10 seated dumbell presses would help

[JasonDB]

not sure why its the shoulders that are so unresponsive my dead shot up to 375 pretty quickly should hit my 405 target by christmas. was wondering if adding an additional day of 10x10 seated dumbell presses would help

I love 10x10 for size but it is unlikely to give you any carryover in performance on your low rep sets if you are already doing low rep work. Strength transference works much better low rep to high than high rep to low because linear progression is slower for higher rep metabolic work like 10x10. What are you doing right now for delts and triceps? Are you struggling at the bottom of your shoulder presses or the lockout?

[ven33]

Oh Neg....king of faces.

[JasonDB]

Id rather just make the stalker suffer. Intentionally bend over near her....knowing you can't have something is worse than not actually having it. lol

This thread is about training... not some bish trying to throw some stanky on your hangdown. Respect the topic, brosiden king of the brocean, you dig?

[ven33]

This thread is about training... not some bish trying to throw some stanky on your hangdown. Respect the topic, brosiden king of the brocean, you dig?

I think you just asked me for sex....amirite?

[JasonDB]

I think you just asked me for sex....amirite?

If I was gay, I would let you hit it.

[axxlef]

I love 10x10 for size but it is unlikely to give you any carryover in performance on your low rep sets if you are already doing low rep work. Strength transference works much better low rep to high than high rep to low because linear progression is slower for higher rep metabolic work like 10x10. What are you doing right now for delts and triceps? Are you struggling at the bottom of your shoulder presses or the lockout?

military press 5-3-1 :3 sets of seated dbell press 4-8 reps: 2 sets side laterals 8-10 reps and 2 sets bw dips
not doing any direct arm work atm althogh triceps are relatively strong was doing 100lb seated extentions not so long ago

[JasonDB]

military press 5-3-1 :3 sets of seated dbell press 4-8 reps: 2 sets side laterals 8-10 reps and 2 sets bw dips
not doing any direct arm work atm althogh triceps are relatively strong was doing 100lb seated extentions not so long ago

How many times a week you doing that? You might want to add some direct tricep work back in any time you stall on a press of any type. Throw in a 3x3 or 2x5-6 on skullcrushers once a week at least.

[axxlef]

How many times a week you doing that? You might want to add some direct tricep work back in any time you stall on a press of any type. Throw in a 3x3 or 2x5-6 on skullcrushers once a week at least.

will give that a go. 5-3-1 is a once a week per bodypart, apart from the shoulders its working pretty well but sholders have always been a weak point i can actually curl more than i can military press

[ven33]

will give that a go. 5-3-1 is a once a week per bodypart, apart from the shoulders its working pretty well but sholders have always been a weak point i can actually curl more than i can military press

Woahhhhhhhhhh that's an issue.

[JasonDB]

will give that a go. 5-3-1 is a once a week per bodypart, apart from the shoulders its working pretty well but sholders have always been a weak point i can actually curl more than i can military press

I have never curled as much as I military press... major imbalance there. Yeah time for full weak point training mode. Overhead work 3x a week.

[midcoastking33]

will give that a go. 5-3-1 is a once a week per bodypart, apart from the shoulders its working pretty well but sholders have always been a weak point i can actually curl more than i can military press

You are my hero

[illiniStrive]

will give that a go. 5-3-1 is a once a week per bodypart, apart from the shoulders its working pretty well but sholders have always been a weak point i can actually curl more than i can military press

yeesh, how is that possible??

[axxlef]

yeesh, how is that possible??

weak shoulders are weak

[beef0270]

will give that a go. 5-3-1 is a once a week per bodypart, apart from the shoulders its working pretty well but sholders have always been a weak point i can actually curl more than i can military press

So you are the guy doing curls in the Squat rack!!!

[MagnumPeanut82]

yeesh, how is that possible??

[axxlef]

So you are the guy doing curls in the Squat rack!!!

i always thought squat rack was a funny name for the curling station!

[MagnumPeanut82]

So in your guys experience, what is you favorite lift for adding mass to the bicep.

In before gain 10 pounds.

[axxlef]

So in your guys experience, what is you favorite lift for adding mass to the bicep.

In before gain 10 pounds.

reverse grip heavy bent rows are pretty good imo

[JasonDB]

So in your guys experience, what is you favorite lift for adding mass to the bicep.

In before gain 10 pounds.

Weighted chinups, straight bar curls, incline curls is how I got those:
2004

2003


All natural!!!!! Ok maybe not.... lulz

[jake1224]

listen OP...this actually isn't the worst idea ever.



I'm in an argument with what seems like the entire misc about the concept of an "arms" day. Misc is talking about whether or not it's beneficial and ofc they're undecided. Lot of stupidity and broscience and whatnot..

My arms lag. A lot. I learn more each time I finish a bulk, and i've come to the conclusion that i've been inconsistent in training methodology. the popular back/bi split is a poor way to stimulate the bis, for example.

After lots of heavy pulls, they're at exhaustion already, but not from progressive stimulus. Endurance fatigue from a lot of sets that they're accessory muscles for. I'm gonna be trying pre-exhaustion on my next bulk, opening up back/bi day with six sets of heavy curls. Chest, delts, etc all blow up from heavy frequent training with lower volume..arms shouldn't be any different.

[JasonDB]

listen OP...this actually isn't the worst idea ever.



I'm in an argument with what seems like the entire misc about the concept of an "arms" day. Misc is talking about whether or not it's beneficial and ofc they're undecided. Lot of stupidity and broscience and whatnot..

My arms lag. A lot. I learn more each time I finish a bulk, and i've come to the conclusion that i've been inconsistent in training methodology. the popular back/bi split is a poor way to stimulate the bis, for example.

After lots of heavy pulls, they're at exhaustion already, but not from progressive stimulus. Endurance fatigue from a lot of sets that they're accessory muscles for. I'm gonna be trying pre-exhaustion on my next bulk, opening up back/bi day with six sets of heavy curls. Chest, delts, etc all blow up from heavy frequent training with lower volume..arms shouldn't be any different.

Well if you are serious about your bulk and you are not not either on a ****load of tech or a very advanced trainee the bodypart split thing (by this I mean each muscle once a week) isn't such a great idea so as such you will have more than one back day. Let's assume you will have two back, bicep days. One of those you can pre-exaust by doing your biceps first, then just allow their stimulate to come form the cumulative fatigue in the other back/bi workout by doing them last. Biceps are my slowest developing muscle group genetically, and I have had always had to train them very very hard (sadly they are currently my worst muscle again) 3+ times a week to keep them caught up. Purely arm days are a bad idea for anyone who doesn't have a bad imbalance and they should still be doing arm work on their other days as well.

I might try to find a picture of how small my biceps where when I tried to do an arm day as a natty without doing any bicep work more than once a week. It did not go as expected contrary to what all the magazines said. LoL

Ok found one... bodyfat too high to be taking pics in pro-tan (I was a noob what you expect?) and quality is piss poor(my scanner is old) in same undies as avatar pic but a tad smaller and fatter. As you can clearly see my biceps suck with only 2 or 2.5 years of weight lifting and doing a stupid "arm day"

[Haligonian]

How do you tell when you've been over training? I'm eating about 2800 a day on a cut with a little over and hour of lifting and about 30-40 minutes of cardio a day. 2 days off a week. I feel like I'm dying? Lifts are slowly going down. Occasionally light headed when I stand. These are pretty good signs right?

I leave for an academy in 2 months so I've been pushing myself pretty hard to get in shape cardio-wise. Up the cals or increase rest?

Not sure if this is the thread, but who cares might as well

EDIT: I too can curl more than I can overhead press ps, thanks shoulder injury! (Not my fault either, some jerk nearly bumped me when doing overhead and the dumbell fell backwards and dragged my shoulder out. Sounded like someone took some raw spaghetti and snapped it slowly in half.)

[lovingit]

I do not have an "arms day," but I had to start doing bicep isos twice a week. I was only doing them once a week, plus my rowing, chins, etc...but they weren't growing much.

But - I also gained LBM all over, which helped. (sorry)

[jake1224]

everything

I stopped thinking t hat an arm day was stupid on its own merits a while ago, people just do it wrong a lot. And of course, i've read the evidence, training anything once every week is stupid. I'd work 3x a week if I could.

[JasonDB]

How do you tell when you've been over training? I'm eating about 2800 a day on a cut with a little over and hour of lifting and about 30-40 minutes of cardio a day. 2 days off a week. I feel like I'm dying? Lifts are slowly going down. Occasionally light headed when I stand. These are pretty good signs right?

I leave for an academy in 2 months so I've been pushing myself pretty hard to get in shape cardio-wise. Up the cals or increase rest?

Not sure if this is the thread, but who cares might as well

EDIT: I too can curl more than I can overhead press ps, thanks shoulder injury! (Not my fault either, some jerk nearly bumped me when doing overhead and the dumbell fell backwards and dragged my shoulder out. Sounded like someone took some raw spaghetti and snapped it slowly in half.)

We had a 10 page debate on this in the Dana Lynn Baily thread in the Nut Misc. Read over that.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...highlight=dana

Starts right about there in the middle of the thread.