Nut Misc "Do You Even Lift?" Thread

[dchan8]

On a separate note, is it wrong that I have organized my underwear into stuff I will squat in and stuff I wont?

I hope not because I separate squat-permissible boxers and non-squat boxers, too.

[snrygo]

I hope not because I separate squat-permissible boxers and non-squat boxers, too.

Ok good to know I'm not the only one

[dchan8]

I'm probably the only one in here who hikes his shorts up to his armpits when squatting, though. This is what goes on in people's heads when they see me:

[mattypoole]

God ****ing damn. I never even got close to 150 when I was younger, and I can't imagine doing 150 in 1.5 months let alone 200. Are lockouts difficult on the last set?

No mate.

The bottom part of the movement is by far the hardest part for me, so if I haven't hit failure during that lower part of the movement I don't have any dramas locking out. Even when I do start to fail, it's usually only the bottom part of the movement I need a bit of a spot with and I'm ok to still lock out.

In saying that it has been a long time since I've hit that kind of weight and I suspect it'll take a little time to get back there and see what my lockout is like at that point.

[sawoobley]

Question for you barbell OHPers. Is it detrimental to your progress to lower the bar to your clavicle? I like going low but I wondering if I should just lower it until my arm makes a right angle. Any thoughts?

[mattypoole]

Question for you barbell OHPers. Is it detrimental to your progress to lower the bar to your clavicle? I like going low but I wondering if I should just lower it until my arm makes a right angle. Any thoughts?

From what I've understood, going beyond a 90 degree angle be it barbell or dumbbell increases your risk of injury.

[illiniStrive]

From what I've understood, going beyond a 90 degree angle be it barbell or dumbbell increases your risk of injury.

Hmm, I've never heard that. Imo it's not a real ohp if you're stopping the bar once your elbows make a right angle. Mine pretty much look like this >> http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...taryPress.html

The bar makes contact before I start the movement again.

[mattypoole]

Hmm, I've never heard that. Imo it's not a real ohp if you're stopping the bar once your elbows make a right angle. Mine pretty much look like this >> http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...taryPress.html

The bar makes contact before I start the movement again.

I do go lower, but tend to use a slightly smaller ROM (just to a right angle) for my warmup set (for some reason I can get little twinges otherwise).

[Andrew_S]

I go to chin level with "heavy" sets, deeper with lighter work. It just feels better, and with longer arms chin level is well past upper arms being parallel. Parallel would be like bar to forehead for me.

[AlwaysTryin]

I go to chin level with "heavy" sets, deeper with lighter work. It just feels better, and with longer arms chin level is well past upper arms being parallel. Parallel would be like bar to forehead for me.

hmmm I've always went down til my chest, paused, then back up

[Andrew_S]

hmmm I've always went down til my chest, paused, then back up

I support it if pain free. Full pain free range of motion for any lift is ideal IMO. I just notice a discomfort in my shoulders if lowered all the way.

[mattypoole]

I support it if pain free. Full pain free range of motion for any lift is ideal IMO

^^ Agreed, I think it's a sensible approach.

[greekmanman]

lol According to most miscers, any natty and I mean real natty with arms over 15" cold is on the candy. I must be using some non-existent candy. I'll just say big arms = big everything.



If you say you're weak once more, I will personally fly down to Sydney and smack you with a kangaroo's cock. Though I can understand why you say it; you just want to push yourself to the next level. Just keep it rational. If you're attempting a PR, do single reps in 75-120 lb jumps.

Isthisreallife lol? brb posting my pics in misc at the end of my cut trolol

Barbell OHP requires a certain level of mobility and flexibility that most people simply don't possess, which is why you see them arch the **** out of their lower back. From a rotator stand point, you need less internal rotation at the glenohumeral joint as well as better scapular stability to be able to safely OHP with a BB. Modern day life has people in excessive kyphosis meaning excess internal rotation, poor scapular function, and horrible thoracic mobility, all of which compromise the rotator during the OHP. Tons of people injure themselves OHPing. I personally wouldn't demonize the lift because people haven't taken care of their body.

With DBs, it's different. There's a reason why people can do a lot of things with DBs pain free and not with BBs and that's because the latter essentially puts you in a fixed position. There's far more freedom with a DB so you'll probably looking at less subacromial space.

Eric Cressey adds some stuff I didn't mention:
http://www.ericcressey.com/the-overhead-press

So, it's not complete hogwash.

Excellent; on spread. I really need to brush up on my physiology/biomechanics as that is the area I am least familiar with.

[sawoobley]

Good, that's what I thought. I've just seen some people stop at 90 degrees.

[JasonDB]

Isthisreallife lol? brb posting my pics in misc at the end of my cut trolol

Excellent; on spread. I really need to brush up on my physiology/biomechanics as that is the area I am least familiar with.

Talk more to people at gyms and get an idea of how big the average guy is who has a couple bicycle rides under his belt. You are bigger than 80-90% of guys who have ridden a few bikes. (srs) Most of them are dumb kids, doing silly splits with mostly cable work and maybe a couple half effort half squats every week, or middle aged guys just trying to look a little better as they get into their mid 30's and who do mostly cable curls and cable flyes.

[greekmanman]

Talk more to people at gyms and get an idea of how big the average guy is who has a couple bicycle rides under his belt. You are bigger than 80-90% of guys who have ridden a few bikes. (srs) Most of them are dumb kids, doing silly splits with mostly cable work and maybe a couple half effort half squats every week, or middle aged guys just trying to look a little better as they get into their mid 30's and who do mostly cable curls and cable flyes.

loled thanks brah

I just want to get leaaaaan and see where I stand. There is this one guy who I am pretty sure has/is drinking grape juice based on his lbm and leanness coupled with his training methods lol. I imagine he is around 7-8% 200+ at 5'8. I see him every night doing 15-20 reps of cable flys, lateral raise complexes with 15 lb dumbbells(lol) and a bunch of other seemingly retarded things..

His chest is retard huge and only benches about 205 on the incline?

[JasonDB]

loled thanks brah

I just want to get leaaaaan and see where I stand. There is this one guy who I am pretty sure has/is drinking grape juice based on his lbm and leanness coupled with his training methods lol. I imagine he is around 7-8% 200+ at 5'8. I see him every night doing 15-20 reps of cable flys, lateral raise complexes with 15 lb dumbbells(lol) and a bunch of other seemingly retarded things..

His chest is retard huge and only benches about 205 on the incline?

When you see a guy who is way too big and way to lean for the type of training he does, you don't see him doing heavy-ass barbell work most of the time when he is in the gym who does tons of fluff for volume, yes it is generally a safe bet that he is not only on, but is on a ton of tech. Also he will tell you that his muscles need a full 7 days to recover or he overtrains and if he doesn't get his whey and dextrose post workout he loses muscle and that cable concentration curls really bring out the peaks of his biceps.

[AlwaysTryin]

Ok I went to a larger gym today where there was about 100 people (vs the normal 10 max where I go).... I've come to realise I'm not that weak lol

There were a few massive roid dudes but most people were benching like 90kg max and 34kg dumbbells, 160kg deads etc lol

[ThatWei]

^^^

I only squat 80kg and I don't even lift, but that is still more than anyone else I've seen at the gym

Too many genetic freaks post in Nmisc, messes with your head! (although I am still a weak *******)

No I am not Ion

[taptomyarmbar]

On the OHP - I was having probs with back arching (several pages back). Actually managed to correct it by dropping the weight a bit - form is much better now. Thanks to those who helped with that!

[greekmanman]

If I may, while my bench is still weak I've gotten a few guys my age or older stare at me when I'm doing deads or squats. I had one guy ask me how I'm recovering doing heavy squats 3x a week. I wanted to be a cheeky kunt so I said "Magic". Looking back, I think that was the worst response I could think of. Dumbass must have interpreted it for candy. I don't care, everyone at my gym seems to be on retarded splits. Brb, making more progress in 4 weeks than they have in 6 months.

lol this^

I swear, I really haven't seen anyone make some decent progress in the last few months lol

[shooter1101]

With the OHP, for those that go down to their chest and pause before lifting, do you have a slight jump thru the legs to get the weight up to start on heavier sets? Is that bad bad form, and should I drop the weight down?

On lighter sets I have no issues, but when I start to get heavier, I feel like I need a little boost to get started...

[taptomyarmbar]

With the OHP, for those that go down to their chest and pause before lifting, do you have a slight jump thru the legs to get the weight up to start on heavier sets? Is that bad bad form, and should I drop the weight down?

On lighter sets I have no issues, but when I start to get heavier, I feel like I need a little boost to get started...

Drop weight slightly I would say - you're almost doing a push press like that. I am guilty of that when I load the bar a little too high.

[Kirra]

With the OHP, for those that go down to their chest and pause before lifting, do you have a slight jump thru the legs to get the weight up to start on heavier sets? Is that bad bad form, and should I drop the weight down?

On lighter sets I have no issues, but when I start to get heavier, I feel like I need a little boost to get started...

If you use your legs it's no longer an OHP...

This might help you tho: http://vimeo.com/18405113

[shooter1101]

Thanks guys. I see all these huge numbers for people OHP and I am doing nothing even close. Feelsbadman

[snrygo]

I swear, I really haven't seen anyone make some decent progress in the last few months lol

i couldnt go to my one gym for about 3months when there was a bus strike a couple months ago. i came back afte rit was over and literally one person had made progress as far as i could see (srs). depressing.

[taptomyarmbar]

Anyone not on bb.com spins wheels constantly? semisrs

[phal]

Anyone not on bb.com spins wheels constantly? semisrs

People ON bb.com spin wheels constantly, too.

[snrygo]

Anyone not on bb.com spins wheels constantly? semisrs

half the people ON BBcom spin their wheels

[joelash302]

People ON bb.com spin wheels constantly, too.

I'm very pleased that I finally got out of this mode. Bigger reps every week, thank you wendler.